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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 29, 2019 2:59:34 GMT -7
They still have him in the active 90 roster, so that points to a decent possibility that the doctor gives him clearance in the not-too-distant future. Had dinner with my parents tonight. My dad is a pulmonologist. He started asking me about Okung. He said he doesn't know the specifics of this one, but he couldn't imagine letting someone who suffered a pulmonary embolism ever play football again. My uncle was there too and he's a cardiologist. They were discussing that maybe if there was a specific trauma that caused it then maybe he could play in the future. Or if steroids caused it then he could stop taking them and play (they were joking about this). But basically, unless they find a cause for the embolism then it's extremely dangerous to clear him. We all know there's a lot of pressure on everyone to get Okung to play, but it's really important he is healthy. STOP TAKING STEROIDS AND PLAY AGAIN !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! We might as well have little Ekeler go play LT.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Jul 29, 2019 6:29:59 GMT -7
They still have him in the active 90 roster, so that points to a decent possibility that the doctor gives him clearance in the not-too-distant future. Had dinner with my parents tonight. My dad is a pulmonologist. He started asking me about Okung. He said he doesn't know the specifics of this one, but he couldn't imagine letting someone who suffered a pulmonary embolism ever play football again. My uncle was there too and he's a cardiologist. They were discussing that maybe if there was a specific trauma that caused it then maybe he could play in the future. Or if steroids caused it then he could stop taking them and play (they were joking about this). But basically, unless they find a cause for the embolism then it's extremely dangerous to clear him. We all know there's a lot of pressure on everyone to get Okung to play, but it's really important he is healthy. Wow. Of course Okung has to put his health at the top of the priority list- as do the Chargers. Which seems then that we will be short one starting Left Tackle. Terrible news on all fronts. I'd prefer a starting caliber LT over a top ten RB... is there a trade to made anywhere??? Just asking for a friend.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 29, 2019 6:35:52 GMT -7
Had dinner with my parents tonight. My dad is a pulmonologist. He started asking me about Okung. He said he doesn't know the specifics of this one, but he couldn't imagine letting someone who suffered a pulmonary embolism ever play football again. My uncle was there too and he's a cardiologist. They were discussing that maybe if there was a specific trauma that caused it then maybe he could play in the future. Or if steroids caused it then he could stop taking them and play (they were joking about this). But basically, unless they find a cause for the embolism then it's extremely dangerous to clear him. We all know there's a lot of pressure on everyone to get Okung to play, but it's really important he is healthy. Wow. Of course Okung has to put his health at the top of the priority list- as do the Chargers. Which seems then that we will be short one starting Left Tackle. Terrible news on all fronts. I'd prefer a starting caliber LT over a top ten RB... is there a trade to made anywhere??? Just asking for a friend. Never fear, Barksdale is available.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Jul 29, 2019 6:44:03 GMT -7
Wow. Of course Okung has to put his health at the top of the priority list- as do the Chargers. Which seems then that we will be short one starting Left Tackle. Terrible news on all fronts. I'd prefer a starting caliber LT over a top ten RB... is there a trade to made anywhere??? Just asking for a friend. Never fear, Barksdale is available. That one stung a little bit!
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 29, 2019 6:49:18 GMT -7
TT really, really needs to find some vet OL help. But....but.....are you sure, because everyone loves to say the Bolts are just fine in their OL group. "Fine" is an exaggeration. May be OK in a SB way is my take and that will require a few breaks to fall on the positive side. I'd feel marginally better with a vet OL add. Marginal because I've seen epic fails from our FA OL in the past.
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Post by eaterfan on Jul 29, 2019 6:51:38 GMT -7
Please take what I said as a generality. The Chargers and their doctors obviously know way more about the situation than my dad. I was just passing it along because I think many on the board, myself included, didn't think this would be career threatening at this point.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 29, 2019 7:15:38 GMT -7
But....but.....are you sure, because everyone loves to say the Bolts are just fine in their OL group. "Fine" is an exaggeration. May be OK in a SB way is my take and that will require a few breaks to fall on the positive side. I'd feel marginally better with a vet OL add. Marginal because I've seen epic fails from our FA OL in the past.
With the Okung issue, it unfortunately appears that the "few breaks" are falling the wrong way already. When I look at this roster, and yes it is very early, the big weakness I see is the OL group. There simply isn't the talent there in my eyes. Doesn't mean that they can't go out and produce statistics that show them to be middle of the pack, which might be enough if the needed 'few breaks' go the Bolts' way. The worry is when you get into PO games, does the OL get exposed as being just average ? TT is in a very difficult position, as improving the OL group via FA or trade is a risky proposition. The misses on the drafted OL players over the years is really starting to hurt this roster build, in my view.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 29, 2019 7:20:15 GMT -7
Please take what I said as a generality. The Chargers and their doctors obviously know way more about the situation than my dad. I was just passing it along because I think many on the board, myself included, didn't think this would be career threatening at this point. I did a similar thing in asking one of our Docs about it. He basically said 'good chance that career is over'...... Clearly he knows little about the specifics of Okung's health, and was speaking in general terms, similar to your father.
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Post by midwestbolt on Jul 30, 2019 13:32:35 GMT -7
Please take what I said as a generality. The Chargers and their doctors obviously know way more about the situation than my dad. I was just passing it along because I think many on the board, myself included, didn't think this would be career threatening at this point. But you have a particularly good insight with family members who are in that actual field of medicine. There have been some high profile athletes who have recovered from this condition and continued to compete - but with the sheer physical beating NFL players take week in and out, you wonder at what point a person says it just ain't worth the risk.
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 30, 2019 16:08:35 GMT -7
The team is using Okung as a coach currently. It's good to have him there in that capacity for the youngsters. That part is on schedule. Could be that's all he can give this year.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 30, 2019 21:33:11 GMT -7
The team is using Okung as a coach currently. It's good to have him there in that capacity for the youngsters. That part is on schedule. Could be that's all he can give this year. Really expensive coach.......
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 31, 2019 2:22:32 GMT -7
The team is using Okung as a coach currently. It's good to have him there in that capacity for the youngsters. That part is on schedule. Could be that's all he can give this year. Really expensive coach....... There is no cost too high when we are staring at Pippi Longstocking starting fresh out of Sioux Falls College.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 31, 2019 4:25:59 GMT -7
If the diagnosis is likely career ending, then the Chargers front office is being derelict in its duties by not being very actively engaged in the trade market and committing malpractice in regard to Okung still being on the active 90 roster. At a minimum, he should have been designated with an offseason illness/injury that doesn’t count against the active 90.
We will find out soon enough.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 31, 2019 7:21:56 GMT -7
If the diagnosis is likely career ending, then the Chargers front office is being derelict in its duties by not being very actively engaged in the trade market and committing malpractice in regard to Okung still being on the active 90 roster. At a minimum, he should have been designated with an offseason illness/injury that doesn’t count against the active 90. We will find out soon enough. The key is the diagnosis......my thought is they are waiting to see a more defined diagnosis. and hoping it is much more positive. That said, TT must be quietly looking around, but my guess is there is little to do at this point. Camp releases might prove worthwhile, but that is a ways away. Trade is way too expensive..... in my view. Keeping him on the 90 and involved, coaching as it were, is a luxury I suspect they can afford. It won't be too long, and as you say, we will find out.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 31, 2019 8:15:57 GMT -7
If the diagnosis is likely career ending, then the Chargers front office is being derelict in its duties by not being very actively engaged in the trade market and committing malpractice in regard to Okung still being on the active 90 roster. At a minimum, he should have been designated with an offseason illness/injury that doesn’t count against the active 90. We will find out soon enough. Aren't you one of the "he's under contract, the team doesn't have to do anything." guys. Interesting huh ?
How about some Iron Fist Football. "Your condition doesn't interest us. Blocking at the left tackle spot DOES interest us. Now let's get out there." "Bleed to death ? If we put Sioux Falls out there we're ALL going to bleed to death" !!
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