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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 3:00:06 GMT -7
When I say backwater Toronto, and the superstars want to go to the spotlight of LA. That's what I mean boys. I get that you're not being serious when you say "backwater Toronto" and that you're trying to pull Chopper's chain, but he doesn't live in Toronto. I do. As a matter of fact, I believe that he's an American living in western New York. Can't see the "backwater" comments having any affect on him at all. While I believe that most Raptor fans who live in Toronto understand Kawhi's reasons for signing with the Clippers, we Torontonians are sensitive to comments about being a "backwater" town, especially coming from Americans. Add to that the fear (whether there's truth or not in it) that no truly elite NBA superstar will ever choose to sign in Toronto as a free agent and the timing of your post (right after Leonard just signed or is about to sign with the Clippers) and any Raptor fan from Toronto is likely to be irritated by your comment, regardless of the seriousness of it. Trust me, you would not want to go and post this on any Raptors message board right now. Sometimes "it's a joke" doesn't cut it.... Or, taking any "sport" where owners and players make millions THAT seriously probably doesn't cut it either. You are way too touchy right now because some of your players are leaving. To you, and Lights Out, I am sorry your players left. Let's take a look at my backwater, shall we ? I AM A FREAKING LIFELONG FAN OF A BACKWATER TEAM !! Their name was San Diego Chargers. Its not a derogatory term. It is what it is, and it is.Ever read 51 thousand posts of the media slighting us ? No coverage, no mention, etc etc ? You yourself have complained of this if I am not mistaken. San Diego Chargers were a backwater town team. Period. There's plenty of them. I'll blow your mind some more. The freakin frackin Pittsburgh Steelers would be a backwater team, its ONLY success at Superbowls that has prevented that from happening. Not location, winning. Spano's went LA Lebron went LA Leonard went LA Danny Green went LA Paul George went LA Does somebody seriously think this is all happenstance and coincidence ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, how I laugh at the mere mention of it. Hell, the NB freaking A loves it !!! Why do you write crazy words like the NBA loves these guys moving to LA Freak ? Why why why !!! Because it brings viewership and East Coast media coverage at 10:30pm Eastern Standard Time tip off times to NBA games. That is why. Never ever doubt me.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 3:05:00 GMT -7
I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. Yeah, I can live with this one. Him joining a super team I would not have been able to live with, that would have made him the new Durant. Right now all I’m feeling is disappointment, but come playoff time, if the Raptors are eliminated I’ll probably pull for Kawhi to succeed. What I’m most blown away by is how the hell this Paul George trade came out of absolutely nowhere, in the middle of the freakin night. Why would OKC have folded so easily, to bolster a competing team in their same conference ? My guess is that without that trade, he would still be a Raptor. That's a good take, and I agree with it. They had to have dangled George in front of Leonard to close the deal with him.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 3:10:04 GMT -7
Concerning the Raptors, agree with you concerning Masai. As long as he is here the team should be a perennial playoff contender unless he decides to blow it all up and reload for 2021, when Giannis becomes available (even if Masai doesn't blow up the team, he'll probably pursue him anyway). Toronto would be an ideal spot for him, as there is a large and well established Greek community here (there's Greektown, with a lot of Greek restaurants and events such as Taste of the Danforth, a street party event featuring lots of food and entertainment). Toronto has also been voted the most multicultural city in the world by the BBC among others, so he might have more opportunities to become a fixture here than in Milwaukee (although from what I understand they also have a large Greek community as well). There is also a personal connection between Masai and Giannis. He personally helped Giannis' parents get Greek citizenship. He also organized a Greek Heritage Night when the Bucks played the Raptors at the Scotiabank Arena on January 2, 2018 that resulted in thousands of Greek Raptor fans singing in Greek to Giannis after the game. Concerning Freak's comments, he (like a lot of Americans) doesn't get or doesn't care about how such comments play north of the border. It reinforces the Ugly American stereotype that people outside of the U.S. have of your country. I know of at least two stories of Canadians travelling in Europe who were mistaken for Americans and given a hard time until it was discovered that they were Canadians, at which point they were treated with respect. Having said all that, what's happening in Southern California with the earthquakes and other things happening in the news puts everything in perspective. It's hard to get too bothered by all of this when people's lives could be at stake. Please consider Freak in a class of his own...last I knew his US Citizenship was still under review (a status it’s been in for 51+ years). Also, he lives in Pennsylvania, so don’t let the SoCal earthquakes hold you back. It’s Blitzkrieg time !!!  Post Approved for Nazi Violence being used on me. That's definitely a new one. I likey !
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 3:15:11 GMT -7
I think there is a part of him that wants to bring the Clippers their first championship and choose his destination. And wouldn't the perfect strategy be to wait it out and screw the Lakers a bit before signing with the Clippers. The Clippers have the roster and coaching to provide some "load management". I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. You were right, and I'm sorry you lost your star. I know you said you would be shocked if he left. That would be like me losing Rivers to another team. That would hurt, and I hope your team lands some additional talent to remain a post season team next year. Good luck.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 3:26:03 GMT -7
I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. You were right, and I'm sorry you lost your star. I know you said you would be shocked if he left. That would be like me losing Rivers to another team. That would hurt, and I hope your team lands some additional talent to remain a post season team next year. Good luck. Psst...Lights Out is a Pistons fan
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 3:32:24 GMT -7
I get that you're not being serious when you say "backwater Toronto" and that you're trying to pull Chopper's chain, but he doesn't live in Toronto. I do. As a matter of fact, I believe that he's an American living in western New York. Can't see the "backwater" comments having any affect on him at all. While I believe that most Raptor fans who live in Toronto understand Kawhi's reasons for signing with the Clippers, we Torontonians are sensitive to comments about being a "backwater" town, especially coming from Americans. Add to that the fear (whether there's truth or not in it) that no truly elite NBA superstar will ever choose to sign in Toronto as a free agent and the timing of your post (right after Leonard just signed or is about to sign with the Clippers) and any Raptor fan from Toronto is likely to be irritated by your comment, regardless of the seriousness of it. Trust me, you would not want to go and post this on any Raptors message board right now. Sometimes "it's a joke" doesn't cut it.... Or, taking any "sport" where owners and players make millions THAT seriously probably doesn't cut it either. You are way too touchy right now because some of your players are leaving. To you, and Lights Out, I am sorry your players left. Let's take a look at my backwater, shall we ? I AM A FREAKING LIFELONG FAN OF A BACKWATER TEAM !! Their name was San Diego Chargers. Its not a derogatory term. It is what it is, and it is.Ever read 51 thousand posts of the media slighting us ? No coverage, no mention, etc etc ? You yourself have complained of this if I am not mistaken. San Diego Chargers were a backwater town team. Period. There's plenty of them. I'll blow your mind some more. The freakin frackin Pittsburgh Steelers would be a backwater team, its ONLY success at Superbowls that has prevented that from happening. Not location, winning. Spano's went LA Lebron went LA Leonard went LA Danny Green went LA Paul George went LA Does somebody seriously think this is all happenstance and coincidence ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, how I laugh at the mere mention of it. Hell, the NB freaking A loves it !!! Why do you write crazy words like the NBA loves these guys moving to LA Freak ? Why why why !!! Because it brings viewership and East Coast media coverage at 10:30pm Eastern Standard Time tip off times to NBA games. That is why. Never ever doubt me. Nobody on the East Coast stays up until 1am on a weeknight to watch NBA games. Myself included. I actually heard the NBA wouldn’t want the league to be West Coast top heavy for that exact reason. Where did I hear that ? On the NBA’s radio station. Having 5 of the Top 10 players in the league in the State of California will hurt TV ratings overall...
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 3:49:25 GMT -7
Or, taking any "sport" where owners and players make millions THAT seriously probably doesn't cut it either. You are way too touchy right now because some of your players are leaving. To you, and Lights Out, I am sorry your players left. Let's take a look at my backwater, shall we ? I AM A FREAKING LIFELONG FAN OF A BACKWATER TEAM !! Their name was San Diego Chargers. Its not a derogatory term. It is what it is, and it is.Ever read 51 thousand posts of the media slighting us ? No coverage, no mention, etc etc ? You yourself have complained of this if I am not mistaken. San Diego Chargers were a backwater town team. Period. There's plenty of them. I'll blow your mind some more. The freakin frackin Pittsburgh Steelers would be a backwater team, its ONLY success at Superbowls that has prevented that from happening. Not location, winning. Spano's went LA Lebron went LA Leonard went LA Danny Green went LA Paul George went LA Does somebody seriously think this is all happenstance and coincidence ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, how I laugh at the mere mention of it. Hell, the NB freaking A loves it !!! Why do you write crazy words like the NBA loves these guys moving to LA Freak ? Why why why !!! Because it brings viewership and East Coast media coverage at 10:30pm Eastern Standard Time tip off times to NBA games. That is why. Never ever doubt me. Nobody on the East Coast stays up until 1am on a weeknight to watch NBA games. Myself included. I actually heard the NBA wouldn’t want the league to be West Coast top heavy for that exact reason. Where did I hear that ? On the NBA’s radio station. Having 5 of the Top 10 players in the league in the State of California will hurt TV ratings overall... i heard when Lebron got hurt, and again when the Lakers were out of it, east coast viewership plummeted down, and the league wants west coast viewership in the east. That makes the most sense to me.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 3:51:22 GMT -7
You were right, and I'm sorry you lost your star. I know you said you would be shocked if he left. That would be like me losing Rivers to another team. That would hurt, and I hope your team lands some additional talent to remain a post season team next year. Good luck. Psst...Lights Out is a Pistons fan Go............Blake Griffin ?
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 5:55:57 GMT -7
Nobody on the East Coast stays up until 1am on a weeknight to watch NBA games. Myself included. I actually heard the NBA wouldn’t want the league to be West Coast top heavy for that exact reason. Where did I hear that ? On the NBA’s radio station. Having 5 of the Top 10 players in the league in the State of California will hurt TV ratings overall... i heard when Lebron got hurt, and again when the Lakers were out of it, east coast viewership plummeted down, and the league wants west coast viewership in the east. That makes the most sense to me. So, can I assume that if you were an NBA fan, you would be watching 2-4 games per week from 10:30pm - 1:00am ?
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 6:24:52 GMT -7
I get that you're not being serious when you say "backwater Toronto" and that you're trying to pull Chopper's chain, but he doesn't live in Toronto. I do. As a matter of fact, I believe that he's an American living in western New York. Can't see the "backwater" comments having any affect on him at all. While I believe that most Raptor fans who live in Toronto understand Kawhi's reasons for signing with the Clippers, we Torontonians are sensitive to comments about being a "backwater" town, especially coming from Americans. Add to that the fear (whether there's truth or not in it) that no truly elite NBA superstar will ever choose to sign in Toronto as a free agent and the timing of your post (right after Leonard just signed or is about to sign with the Clippers) and any Raptor fan from Toronto is likely to be irritated by your comment, regardless of the seriousness of it. Trust me, you would not want to go and post this on any Raptors message board right now. Sometimes "it's a joke" doesn't cut it.... Spano's went LA Lebron went LA Leonard went LA Danny Green went LA Paul George went LA Does somebody seriously think this is all happenstance and coincidence ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, how I laugh at the mere mention of it. Now to address this part: Spanos went to LA, because he couldn’t secure public funding in SD, where he would rather be if it was possible. Kawhi went to LA, because that’s were he was able to team up with Paul George. He’s also a SoCal guy, and probably was impressed by the way the Clippers run things, so I’m sure he’s happy with how things worked out (but I also have to believe it was difficult to leave Toronto). The one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that he did not go there to be in any type of “spotlight”. Danny Green...wow, did he really make your list ? The dude is an aging role player, who gives you 7 points per game, and 1 assist if you are lucky. He had multiple scoreless games in this past playoff run, and it’s not because he wasn’t taking shots, he just couldn’t throw a rock into the ocean. He didn’t chose the Lakers over the Raptors, because he had no offer from the Raptors. Is he worth the $22.5 million it would have cost the Raptors to re-sign him (when adding in luxury tax penalty) ? Absolutely not, which is why he was never offered it. The only other team that I know of that was reported to have an offer out to him was the Dallas Mavericks, there may have been others, but I didn’t even bother following what was going on with him because I honestly didn’t care enough. I knew that the only way he was gonna be back, was if Kawhi re-signed and Danny took a discount to return for a chance at a back to back. The Mavericks are set up to be very good in a few years, so long term would be a better choice, but in the short term the Lakers are clearly a better choice for a “win now” opportunity. Danny only has short term left in his career, so it was a no-brainer. Lastly, Danny is able to go to the Lakers (as a backup plan), only because Kawhi did not. If they signed Kawhi, their cap space would be all gone, and he could only tag aling by playing for league minimum salary. Believe me, Danny wasn’t gonna take a $12 million/year pay cut, in exchange for the “privilege” of playing in LA. Paul George is going to the Clippers because that is where he was traded to. He’s another California kid, who previously expressed a desire to go back home, but when he had the freedom to he chose to re-sign in OKC instead. Kawhi wanted to team up with him, because of what they can likely do on the court together, and word is that the Raptors were in play to make the same trade putting both him & Kawhi with them. The bottom line is he was going to wherever he was traded to, and if that was Toronto, he wouldn’t be protesting it. So that brings your list of 5, down to 1.....yes, LeBron went to LA for reasons beyond basketball. The fact that one guy chose that, proves no point that you are trying to make.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 7:30:18 GMT -7
I get that you're not being serious when you say "backwater Toronto" and that you're trying to pull Chopper's chain, but he doesn't live in Toronto. I do. As a matter of fact, I believe that he's an American living in western New York. Can't see the "backwater" comments having any affect on him at all. While I believe that most Raptor fans who live in Toronto understand Kawhi's reasons for signing with the Clippers, we Torontonians are sensitive to comments about being a "backwater" town, especially coming from Americans. Add to that the fear (whether there's truth or not in it) that no truly elite NBA superstar will ever choose to sign in Toronto as a free agent and the timing of your post (right after Leonard just signed or is about to sign with the Clippers) and any Raptor fan from Toronto is likely to be irritated by your comment, regardless of the seriousness of it. Trust me, you would not want to go and post this on any Raptors message board right now. Sometimes "it's a joke" doesn't cut it.... Or, taking any "sport" where owners and players make millions THAT seriously probably doesn't cut it either. You are way too touchy right now because some of your players are leaving. To you, and Lights Out, I am sorry your players left. Let's take a look at my backwater, shall we ? I AM A FREAKING LIFELONG FAN OF A BACKWATER TEAM !! Their name was San Diego Chargers. Its not a derogatory term. It is what it is, and it is.Ever read 51 thousand posts of the media slighting us ? No coverage, no mention, etc etc ? You yourself have complained of this if I am not mistaken. San Diego Chargers were a backwater town team. Period. There's plenty of them. I'll blow your mind some more. The freakin frackin Pittsburgh Steelers would be a backwater team, its ONLY success at Superbowls that has prevented that from happening. Not location, winning. Never ever doubt me. You are making no sense with this. You started off by calling Toronto a “Backwater Town”, now you are saying that there are “Backwater Teams” ? Toronto doesn’t fit the bill for either, as it is a World Class City, and they just won the NBA Championship. Kawhi went to the Clippers. A team that has relocated twice, and not only has never won a Championship, but never even been past round 2 of the playoffs. Are they a “backwater team”, or does the fact that they play in the 2nd largest market take them completely out of the “backwater” conversation ? Out of curiosity, what are the New York Knicks ? Also, if it’s not a derogatory term, then why did you use it in the context you did ? In conclusion, you have no clue what you are talking about, but try to come off as a know it all. That right there is why everyone will always doubt you...
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 7:44:05 GMT -7
Spano's went LA Lebron went LA Leonard went LA Danny Green went LA Paul George went LA Does somebody seriously think this is all happenstance and coincidence ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, how I laugh at the mere mention of it. Now to address this part: Spanos went to LA, because he couldn’t secure public funding in SD, where he would rather be if it was possible. Kawhi went to LA, because that’s were he was able to team up with Paul George. He’s also a SoCal guy, and probably was impressed by the way the Clippers run things, so I’m sure he’s happy with how things worked out (but I also have to believe it was difficult to leave Toronto). The one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that he did not go there to be in any type of “spotlight”. Danny Green...wow, did he really make your list ? The dude is an aging role player, who gives you 7 points per game, and 1 assist if you are lucky. He had multiple scoreless games in this past playoff run, and it’s not because he wasn’t taking shots, he just couldn’t throw a rock into the ocean. He didn’t chose the Lakers over the Raptors, because he had no offer from the Raptors. Is he worth the $22.5 million it would have cost the Raptors to re-sign him (when adding in luxury tax penalty) ? Absolutely not, which is why he was never offered it. The only other team that I know of that was reported to have an offer out to him was the Dallas Mavericks, there may have been others, but I didn’t even bother following what was going on with him because I honestly didn’t care enough. I knew that the only way he was gonna be back, was if Kawhi re-signed and Danny took a discount to return for a chance for a back to back. The Mavericks are set up to be very good in a few years, so long term would be a better choice, but in the short term the Lakers are clearly a better choice for a “win now” opportunity. Danny only has short term left in his career, so it was a no-brainer. Lastly, Danny is able to go to the Lakers (as a backup plan), only because Kawhi did not. If they signed Kawhi, their cap space would be all gone, and he could only tag aling by playing for league minimum salary. Believe me, Danny wasn’t gonna take a $12 million/year pay cut, in exchange for the “privilege” of playing in LA. Paul George is going to the Clippers because that is where he was traded to. He’s another California kid, who previously expressed a desire to go back home, but when he had the freedom to he chose to re-sign in OKC instead. Kawhi wanted to team up with him, because of what they can likely do on the court together, and word is that the Raptors were in play to make the same trade putting both him & Kawhi with them. The bottom line is he was going to wherever he was traded to, and if that was Toronto, he wouldn’t be protesting it. So that brings your list of 5, down to 1.....yes, LeBron went to LA for reasons beyond basketball. The fact that one guy chose that, proves no point that you are trying to make. Please go back to posting 100 reasons Leonard will never leave Toronto. Until, well, he actually got up and left. I laugh.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 7:46:06 GMT -7
Or, taking any "sport" where owners and players make millions THAT seriously probably doesn't cut it either. You are way too touchy right now because some of your players are leaving. To you, and Lights Out, I am sorry your players left. Let's take a look at my backwater, shall we ? I AM A FREAKING LIFELONG FAN OF A BACKWATER TEAM !! Their name was San Diego Chargers. Its not a derogatory term. It is what it is, and it is.Ever read 51 thousand posts of the media slighting us ? No coverage, no mention, etc etc ? You yourself have complained of this if I am not mistaken. San Diego Chargers were a backwater town team. Period. There's plenty of them. I'll blow your mind some more. The freakin frackin Pittsburgh Steelers would be a backwater team, its ONLY success at Superbowls that has prevented that from happening. Not location, winning. Never ever doubt me. You are making no sense with this. You started off by calling Toronto a “Backwater Town”, now you are saying that there are “Backwater Teams” ? Toronto doesn’t fit the bill for either, as it is a World Class City, and they just won the NBA Championship. Kawhi went to the Clippers. A team that has relocated twice, and not only has never won a Championship, but never even been past round 2 of the playoffs. Are they a “backwater team”, or does the fact that they play in the 2nd largest market take them completely out of the “backwater” conversation ? Out of curiosity, what are the New York Knicks ? Also, if it’s not a derogatory term, then why did you use it in the context you did ? In conclusion, you have no clue what you are talking about, but try to come off as a know it all. That right there is why everyone will always doubt you... "Wine him, Dine him, then let LA sign him."
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 7:47:17 GMT -7
i heard when Lebron got hurt, and again when the Lakers were out of it, east coast viewership plummeted down, and the league wants west coast viewership in the east. That makes the most sense to me. So, can I assume that if you were an NBA fan, you would be watching 2-4 games per week from 10:30pm - 1:00am ? DVR. I work for a living. PS (They track DVR viewership too.Shhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anyone. Top secret.)
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 7:50:27 GMT -7
Now to address this part: Spanos went to LA, because he couldn’t secure public funding in SD, where he would rather be if it was possible. Kawhi went to LA, because that’s were he was able to team up with Paul George. He’s also a SoCal guy, and probably was impressed by the way the Clippers run things, so I’m sure he’s happy with how things worked out (but I also have to believe it was difficult to leave Toronto). The one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that he did not go there to be in any type of “spotlight”. Danny Green...wow, did he really make your list ? The dude is an aging role player, who gives you 7 points per game, and 1 assist if you are lucky. He had multiple scoreless games in this past playoff run, and it’s not because he wasn’t taking shots, he just couldn’t throw a rock into the ocean. He didn’t chose the Lakers over the Raptors, because he had no offer from the Raptors. Is he worth the $22.5 million it would have cost the Raptors to re-sign him (when adding in luxury tax penalty) ? Absolutely not, which is why he was never offered it. The only other team that I know of that was reported to have an offer out to him was the Dallas Mavericks, there may have been others, but I didn’t even bother following what was going on with him because I honestly didn’t care enough. I knew that the only way he was gonna be back, was if Kawhi re-signed and Danny took a discount to return for a chance for a back to back. The Mavericks are set up to be very good in a few years, so long term would be a better choice, but in the short term the Lakers are clearly a better choice for a “win now” opportunity. Danny only has short term left in his career, so it was a no-brainer. Lastly, Danny is able to go to the Lakers (as a backup plan), only because Kawhi did not. If they signed Kawhi, their cap space would be all gone, and he could only tag aling by playing for league minimum salary. Believe me, Danny wasn’t gonna take a $12 million/year pay cut, in exchange for the “privilege” of playing in LA. Paul George is going to the Clippers because that is where he was traded to. He’s another California kid, who previously expressed a desire to go back home, but when he had the freedom to he chose to re-sign in OKC instead. Kawhi wanted to team up with him, because of what they can likely do on the court together, and word is that the Raptors were in play to make the same trade putting both him & Kawhi with them. The bottom line is he was going to wherever he was traded to, and if that was Toronto, he wouldn’t be protesting it. So that brings your list of 5, down to 1.....yes, LeBron went to LA for reasons beyond basketball. The fact that one guy chose that, proves no point that you are trying to make. Please go back to posting 100 reasons Leonard will never leave Toronto. Until, well, he actually got up and left. I laugh. I never said he would never leave...I gave reasons why it would make good sense for him to stay. There is a difference. When I make predictions, I don’t do so emphatically, that’s your game. A game you almost always lose. BTW, you predicted he would sign with the Lakers, not the Clippers so you lost there too. Nice response to the actual post too....you lose again.
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