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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 7:53:26 GMT -7
So, can I assume that if you were an NBA fan, you would be watching 2-4 games per week from 10:30pm - 1:00am ? DVR. I work for a living. PS (They track DVR viewership too.Shhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anyone. Top secret.) Here’s another secret. People rarely watch DVR recordings of sports events. Thats why the NFL has had successful TV contracts to date, because sports are the only thing that people watch live. Ads can be sold during those events. Don’t pretend like you would be coming home from work, and watching last nights Lakers game on a DVR recording, because you wouldn’t...
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 7:54:36 GMT -7
You are making no sense with this. You started off by calling Toronto a “Backwater Town”, now you are saying that there are “Backwater Teams” ? Toronto doesn’t fit the bill for either, as it is a World Class City, and they just won the NBA Championship. Kawhi went to the Clippers. A team that has relocated twice, and not only has never won a Championship, but never even been past round 2 of the playoffs. Are they a “backwater team”, or does the fact that they play in the 2nd largest market take them completely out of the “backwater” conversation ? Out of curiosity, what are the New York Knicks ? Also, if it’s not a derogatory term, then why did you use it in the context you did ? In conclusion, you have no clue what you are talking about, but try to come off as a know it all. That right there is why everyone will always doubt you... "Wine him, Dine him, then let LA sign him." No answers to the questions. Because you have no answers. I’ll just add another L to your record.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 8:05:56 GMT -7
Season is over, Parade was Monday. Kawhi should be in SoCal, as of Tuesday morning, right ? Nope...he was at the Bluejays game last night, and got s standing ovation. I guess Tuesday didn't work for his schedule. Did the BluJays win. LA has TWO baseball teams.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 8:08:17 GMT -7
If Kawhi comes to the Clippers, LA becomes basketball heaven. If Kawhi signs a 2 year extension with the Raptors, then he becomes eligible for a Super-Max after that contract is up. As of right now, because he was traded, he isn’t eligible for the type of contract he currently deserves, he needs 2 more years of tenure with his current team for that. After 2 years is up, LeBron is likely out of the picture, so he could even go to the Lakers if he really wanted to move to SoCal. But he could also decide to stay with the Raptors even longer, and make the most money available to him. The Raptors don’t have any cap space to upgrade their roster this year, but they will remain mostly intact. I think Danny Green is as good as gone, but pretty much everyone else will be around, and then the following year, they get some hefty contracts from aging players (Gasol, Lowry, Ibaka) off the books and have some nice cap space to work with (in addition to a very nice young core that will be primed up come that time). Add that to the list of reasons why I think he remains a Raptor... Ok. But they are adding up fast.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 8:10:47 GMT -7
Interesting. Durant, KD and Deandre to the Nets. Horford to the Sixers. Chopper’s favorite Brogdan to the Pacers. Knicks get Randle. Kawhi? Bueller? Bueller? I think it’s great that Brogdan is no longer on the Bucks. That’ll hurt them more than they know (actually, I’m sure they know exactly how much it will). I read that Kawhi isn’t even going to meet with anyone until July 2nd. But then again, I read some pretty crazy rumors about him these past few days, so who knows if anything at all is to be believed. I could definitely see him waiting a few days though, that seems like something that fits his enigmatic personality. The way I see it, the longer he drags it out, the more likely it is he stays with the Raptors, so I’m happy with the delay. I called for the opposite meaning he was leaving......................................
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 8:18:10 GMT -7
I hate to agree with this but I do. I think if Leonard was staying he would have announced it at the parade, or as soon as FA began. Although Chopper's point may be valid because....it would leave the Raptors in a tough spot if they miss out on the top FAs and THEN Leonard leaves. After all the goodwill he built in Toronto/Canada, it would be cold thing to do....delay the decision and then leave. The Raptors are already $3.17 million over the salary cap, even if Kawhi doesn’t resign, so they were never in the game for any Free Agents other than those who will play for league minimum salary (and they are free to make those signings anytime). They can exceed the cap to resign Kawhi (and Danny Green if they really want to), but will be subject to the luxury tax penalty. The reason I say the longer this drags out, the better for the Raptors, is because they can wait for him and won’t be passing up anything. The Lakers and Clippers on the other hand have already missed out on the other top tier free agents, and at some point will have to switch gears if the waiting period gets too long, and use up their cap space on others. The Raptors don’t have to worry about cap space.
You edited this 9 hours ago ? They damn sure don't have to worry about cap space now.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 9:14:05 GMT -7
Season is over, Parade was Monday. Kawhi should be in SoCal, as of Tuesday morning, right ? Nope...he was at the Bluejays game last night, and got s standing ovation. I guess Tuesday didn't work for his schedule. Did the BluJays win. LA has TWO baseball teams. You’re right, it wasn’t in his schedule to get out of “Backwater Toronto” ASAP. He chose to hang around for a few days and enjoy the City. Not sure what LA having two baseball teams has to do with anything, but since you brought it up, do they really ? The Angels are based out of Anahiem, which is not even in the same County as Los Angeles. The LA tag in their name was something put on by the current Owner, which was controversial and even had a lawsuit brought forward by the City of Anahiem, whom the team has their actual lease with. They’ve been in the same stadium since 1966 and the team name has had several different name changes over that time. Only since 2016 have they been known as the “Los Angeles Angels” while playing in that stadium, which was nothing more than a preference of one person (the Owner) despite much opposition. Wow, you can’t even be right about things you bring up, that have no place in this conversation. Another L.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 9:14:55 GMT -7
I think it’s great that Brogdan is no longer on the Bucks. That’ll hurt them more than they know (actually, I’m sure they know exactly how much it will). I read that Kawhi isn’t even going to meet with anyone until July 2nd. But then again, I read some pretty crazy rumors about him these past few days, so who knows if anything at all is to be believed. I could definitely see him waiting a few days though, that seems like something that fits his enigmatic personality. The way I see it, the longer he drags it out, the more likely it is he stays with the Raptors, so I’m happy with the delay. I called for the opposite meaning he was leaving...................................... What you were implying is that if he was seriously considering the Raptors, that he would have signed right away, and the longer he sat on things the lesser their chances were. Here is exactly what you said: losangeleschargers.proboards.com/post/8086He flew out to Toronto on July 3rd for a meeting with them. Teams usually have to go to the player for free agency meetings, so that alone shows how much he was considering returning. The Raptors were in the game up until the very end, until a blockbuster trade appeared out of absolutely nowhere. There was not one person who predicted things would happen the way they did. Without the trade, things probably would have ended up differently, and you even said that you agreed with that yourself. As a reminder you also predicted he was Laker bound, so you were just as wrong as I was, so that’s yet another L.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 9:15:45 GMT -7
The Raptors are already $3.17 million over the salary cap, even if Kawhi doesn’t resign, so they were never in the game for any Free Agents other than those who will play for league minimum salary (and they are free to make those signings anytime). They can exceed the cap to resign Kawhi (and Danny Green if they really want to), but will be subject to the luxury tax penalty. The reason I say the longer this drags out, the better for the Raptors, is because they can wait for him and won’t be passing up anything. The Lakers and Clippers on the other hand have already missed out on the other top tier free agents, and at some point will have to switch gears if the waiting period gets too long, and use up their cap space on others. The Raptors don’t have to worry about cap space.
You edited this 9 hours ago ? They damn sure don't have to worry about cap space now. July 2nd at 6:39 pm was a lot more than 9 hours ago, and that is the last time that post was edited. See here: losangeleschargers.proboards.com/post/8092Guess what...another L.
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Post by jachba on Jul 7, 2019 9:38:39 GMT -7
I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. You were right, and I'm sorry you lost your star. I know you said you would be shocked if he left. That would be like me losing Rivers to another team. That would hurt, and I hope your team lands some additional talent to remain a post season team next year. Good luck. Even though this post was directed at Lights Out, I'm going to take this as a message to all Raptors' fans and say that on behalf of all of us, we appreciate the sentiment. Thank you.
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Post by jachba on Jul 7, 2019 9:42:39 GMT -7
I think there is a part of him that wants to bring the Clippers their first championship and choose his destination. And wouldn't the perfect strategy be to wait it out and screw the Lakers a bit before signing with the Clippers. The Clippers have the roster and coaching to provide some "load management". I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. That is a very gracious statement coming from a fan of a conference rival. Thank you.
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Post by jachba on Jul 7, 2019 9:53:13 GMT -7
Or, taking any "sport" where owners and players make millions THAT seriously probably doesn't cut it either. You are way too touchy right now because some of your players are leaving. To you, and Lights Out, I am sorry your players left. Let's take a look at my backwater, shall we ? I AM A FREAKING LIFELONG FAN OF A BACKWATER TEAM !! Their name was San Diego Chargers. Its not a derogatory term. It is what it is, and it is.Ever read 51 thousand posts of the media slighting us ? No coverage, no mention, etc etc ? You yourself have complained of this if I am not mistaken. San Diego Chargers were a backwater town team. Period. There's plenty of them. I'll blow your mind some more. The freakin frackin Pittsburgh Steelers would be a backwater team, its ONLY success at Superbowls that has prevented that from happening. Not location, winning. Never ever doubt me. You are making no sense with this. You started off by calling Toronto a “Backwater Town”, now you are saying that there are “Backwater Teams” ? Toronto doesn’t fit the bill for either, as it is a World Class City, and they just won the NBA Championship. Kawhi went to the Clippers. A team that has relocated twice, and not only has never won a Championship, but never even been past round 2 of the playoffs. Are they a “backwater team”, or does the fact that they play in the 2nd largest market take them completely out of the “backwater” conversation ? Out of curiosity, what are the New York Knicks ? Also, if it’s not a derogatory term, then why did you use it in the context you did ? In conclusion, you have no clue what you are talking about, but try to come off as a know it all. That right there is why everyone will always doubt you... Thank you. Since this post covered most of what I would have said to Freak, it leaves me free to drop the matter entirely. I suppose that I could let him know that no American should ever under any circumstances label any Canadian city a "backwater town" because it reinforces the Ugly American stereotype, but given his response to my previous posts on the subject, I have a feeling that it would be a waste of time.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 10:00:18 GMT -7
You were right, and I'm sorry you lost your star. I know you said you would be shocked if he left. That would be like me losing Rivers to another team. That would hurt, and I hope your team lands some additional talent to remain a post season team next year. Good luck. Even though this post was directed at Lights Out, I'm going to take this as a message to all Raptors' fans and say that on behalf of all of us, we appreciate the sentiment. Thank you. You are welcome and continue to enjoy your champs !! St. Louis Blues. Dinosaurs. It must be Chargers Time !!!
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 10:03:35 GMT -7
I guess Tuesday didn't work for his schedule. Did the BluJays win. LA has TWO baseball teams. You’re right, it wasn’t in his schedule to get out of “Backwater Toronto” ASAP. He chose to hang around for a few days and enjoy the City. Not sure what LA having two baseball teams has to do with anything, but since you brought it up, do they really ? The Angels are based out of Anahiem, which is not even in the same County as Los Angeles. The LA tag in their name was something put on by the current Owner, which was controversial and even had a lawsuit brought forward by the City of Anahiem, whom the team has their actual lease with. They’ve been in the same stadium since 1966 and the team name has had several different name changes over that time. Only since 2016 have they been known as the “Los Angeles Angels” while playing in that stadium, which was nothing more than a preference of one person (the Owner) despite much opposition. Wow, you can’t even be right about things you bring up, that have no place in this conversation. Another L. You just told me that the Los Angeles Angels cannot be called from Los Angeles. I mean, I know you lost it, but try to hang on. WOW
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 10:06:42 GMT -7
You are making no sense with this. You started off by calling Toronto a “Backwater Town”, now you are saying that there are “Backwater Teams” ? Toronto doesn’t fit the bill for either, as it is a World Class City, and they just won the NBA Championship. Kawhi went to the Clippers. A team that has relocated twice, and not only has never won a Championship, but never even been past round 2 of the playoffs. Are they a “backwater team”, or does the fact that they play in the 2nd largest market take them completely out of the “backwater” conversation ? Out of curiosity, what are the New York Knicks ? Also, if it’s not a derogatory term, then why did you use it in the context you did ? In conclusion, you have no clue what you are talking about, but try to come off as a know it all. That right there is why everyone will always doubt you... Thank you. Since this post covered most of what I would have said to Freak, it leaves me free to drop the matter entirely. I suppose that I could let him know that no American should ever under any circumstances label any Canadian city a "backwater town" because it reinforces the Ugly American stereotype, but given his response to my previous posts on the subject, I have a feeling that it would be a waste of time. If a small town is described as backwater, then not much happens or changes there. The word backwater has been around since the 14th Century meaning “water behind a dam.” Now it refers to any flat water, not just the water behind a dam. My Heavens ! How dare I use such terms !!!! I'll immediately petition the Mods for a Ban !!!! C'mon man.
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