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Post by NoMoreChillies on Oct 8, 2019 20:27:40 GMT -7
In 20-13 loss to Denver, Chargers ran 64 plays. 53 of those from shotgun.
With injured receviers, O-Line better at run blocking, 2-3 good RB's, why is Rivers throwing the ball 48 times?
Lets talk about inside the 10-yd line. Here is where running the ball is paramount and Whiz bad playcalling is magnified
Is it Whiz calling 48 passes, or Lynn overriding his run calls, or Phil audible out of them? I do not know.
I do know this: We have seen the losing formula, how about we see something different?
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Post by boltgang74 on Oct 8, 2019 21:35:19 GMT -7
Man thats even uglier to watch the second time around.Peeeeuke!
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Post by cthommes on Oct 8, 2019 21:43:45 GMT -7
Well, you can choose to watch the ball and the end result and blame the called play. Or you can look at individual execution failures that doomed each of those plays. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
Either way, the Kings won tonight (surely a rarity), via an OT game winner by Doughty in Calgary, which is just about as good as it gets, so who cares about football.
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Post by totallybolted on Oct 9, 2019 6:00:01 GMT -7
In 20-13 loss to Denver, Chargers ran 64 plays. 53 of those from shotgun. With injured receviers, O-Line better at run blocking, 2-3 good RB's, why is Rivers throwing the ball 48 times? Lets talk about inside the 10-yd line. Here is where running the ball is paramount and Whiz bad playcalling is magnified Is it Whiz calling 48 passes, or Lynn overriding his run calls, or Phil audible out of them? I do not know. I do know this: We have seen the losing formula, how about we see something different? I'll take door number 3 Wink.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 9, 2019 6:52:51 GMT -7
Call the play, run the play.......simplification might help this OL group.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 9, 2019 6:57:51 GMT -7
In 20-13 loss to Denver, Chargers ran 64 plays. 53 of those from shotgun. With injured receviers, O-Line better at run blocking, 2-3 good RB's, why is Rivers throwing the ball 48 times? Lets talk about inside the 10-yd line. Here is where running the ball is paramount and Whiz bad playcalling is magnified Is it Whiz calling 48 passes, or Lynn overriding his run calls, or Phil audible out of them? I do not know. I do know this: We have seen the losing formula, how about we see something different? Rivers isn't the problem, neither is it the play calling......the issue is far too many players fail to meet the expectations on any given play. Losing those one on one battles is killing this offence.
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Post by berserker on Oct 9, 2019 8:05:00 GMT -7
Spot-on frozendisc, the PLAYERS MUST EXECUTE!!! Hopefully they will be READY TO PLAY this Sunday. Going to be there this Sunday although we expect to be surrounded by Steelers fans. Last week was horrible, all those Donks fans spouting off at our "home game." The team really needs to crush these guys on Sunday- one can always dream.
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Post by totallybolted on Oct 11, 2019 16:34:35 GMT -7
In 20-13 loss to Denver, Chargers ran 64 plays. 53 of those from shotgun. With injured receviers, O-Line better at run blocking, 2-3 good RB's, why is Rivers throwing the ball 48 times? Lets talk about inside the 10-yd line. Here is where running the ball is paramount and Whiz bad playcalling is magnified Is it Whiz calling 48 passes, or Lynn overriding his run calls, or Phil audible out of them? I do not know. I do know this: We have seen the losing formula, how about we see something different? Rivers isn't the problem, neither is it the play calling......the issue is far too many players fail to meet the expectations on any given play. Losing those one on one battles is killing this offence. When you throw that many times....play calling is a problem. Personally, I think PR is audibling out.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 11, 2019 20:21:51 GMT -7
Rivers isn't the problem, neither is it the play calling......the issue is far too many players fail to meet the expectations on any given play. Losing those one on one battles is killing this offence. When you throw that many times....play calling is a problem. Personally, I think PR is audibling out. I trust Rivers' abilities to recognize the called play is facing the perfect defence, and audible out of the play called. That said, audible or not, it doesn't matter if the players on the field are not fulfilling the expectations of the play being run. This many reserve players playing is simply not a winning equation.......hell, the entire starting OL is made up of sub par players. I understand the organization has a 'we can do this' face, but they recognize the realities, catching lightening in a bottle is not happening, eh.......
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Post by cthommes on Oct 11, 2019 21:17:58 GMT -7
When you throw that many times....play calling is a problem. Personally, I think PR is audibling out. I trust Rivers' abilities to recognize the called play is facing the perfect defence, and audible out of the play called. That said, audible or not, it doesn't matter if the players on the field are not fulfilling the expectations of the play being run. This many reserve players playing is simply not a winning equation.......hell, the entire starting OL is made up of sub par players. I understand the organization has a 'we can do this' face, but they recognize the realities, catching lightening in a bottle is not happening, eh....... Rather than parrot the trite o line excuse you harp on incessantly... Do me a favor and watch the video a few posts up where the Chargers have 7 plays from inside the 10. 2 key series where they arguably left 14 points on the board. Point out the abject o line failure in each of the plays. I count one of those 7 plays where one could attribute o line execution failure in the inability to score. Would love to hear your take. |
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Post by eurobolt on Oct 12, 2019 1:04:25 GMT -7
I trust Rivers' abilities to recognize the called play is facing the perfect defence, and audible out of the play called. That said, audible or not, it doesn't matter if the players on the field are not fulfilling the expectations of the play being run. This many reserve players playing is simply not a winning equation.......hell, the entire starting OL is made up of sub par players. I understand the organization has a 'we can do this' face, but they recognize the realities, catching lightening in a bottle is not happening, eh....... Rather than parrot the trite o line excuse you harp on incessantly... Do me a favor and watch the video a few posts up where the Chargers have 7 plays from inside the 10. 2 key series where they arguably left 14 points on the board. Point out the abject o line failure in each of the plays. I count one of those 7 plays where one could attribute o line execution failure in the inability to score. Would love to hear your take. Noone is trusting reserve OL to make a run play at 1 yard lane vs defence that know it will be run. They have tried something else, maybe after this week training it will be batter. First red zone Pouncey was there, second Pouncey was off and I think we were panicking. Yes offensive line is a problem. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 12, 2019 2:40:30 GMT -7
Rather than parrot the trite o line excuse you harp on incessantly... Do me a favor and watch the video a few posts up where the Chargers have 7 plays from inside the 10. 2 key series where they arguably left 14 points on the board. Point out the abject o line failure in each of the plays. I count one of those 7 plays where one could attribute o line execution failure in the inability to score. Would love to hear your take. Noone is trusting reserve OL to make a run play at 1 yard lane vs defence that know it will be run. They have tried something else, maybe after this week training it will be batter. First red zone Pouncey was there, second Pouncey was off and I think we were panicking. Yes offensive line is a problem. If Ekeler fumbles the ball on the one yard line again this week against Pitt, there is a greater than 51% chance I pick my tv up and throw it out the front door. Fake the run and throw to Watt in the endzone. You loved Mike Williams last year. Do something different. Anything.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 12, 2019 2:43:38 GMT -7
I trust Rivers' abilities to recognize the called play is facing the perfect defence, and audible out of the play called. That said, audible or not, it doesn't matter if the players on the field are not fulfilling the expectations of the play being run. This many reserve players playing is simply not a winning equation.......hell, the entire starting OL is made up of sub par players. I understand the organization has a 'we can do this' face, but they recognize the realities, catching lightening in a bottle is not happening, eh....... Rather than parrot the trite o line excuse you harp on incessantly... Do me a favor and watch the video a few posts up where the Chargers have 7 plays from inside the 10. 2 key series where they arguably left 14 points on the board. Point out the abject o line failure in each of the plays. I count one of those 7 plays where one could attribute o line execution failure in the inability to score. Would love to hear your take. You throw him parrot, trite, harp, incessantly, and abject. Then you want his take. From a goalie ?!??!?!?!?!?!! HA (parrot was nice, but I haven't seen trite in quite some time. I like trite.)
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Post by totallybolted on Oct 12, 2019 6:29:10 GMT -7
When you throw that many times....play calling is a problem. Personally, I think PR is audibling out. I trust Rivers' abilities to recognize the called play is facing the perfect defence, and audible out of the play called. That said, audible or not, it doesn't matter if the players on the field are not fulfilling the expectations of the play being run. This many reserve players playing is simply not a winning equation.......hell, the entire starting OL is made up of sub par players. I understand the organization has a 'we can do this' face, but they recognize the realities, catching lightening in a bottle is not happening, eh....... They needed 1 yard. you don't throw the ball 7 times to get it. PR screwed up if he did what I think he did. Trying to carry the team himself. To your point the whole team played poorly. Unable to run against a team ranked near the bottom in run D. Dropped passes. Giving up 14 points in the first half to a team that averaged that per game. The Bolts played uninspired, undisciplined, sloppy football. I think they were thinking this was going to be another Miami cake walk.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 12, 2019 13:37:55 GMT -7
I trust Rivers' abilities to recognize the called play is facing the perfect defence, and audible out of the play called. That said, audible or not, it doesn't matter if the players on the field are not fulfilling the expectations of the play being run. This many reserve players playing is simply not a winning equation.......hell, the entire starting OL is made up of sub par players. I understand the organization has a 'we can do this' face, but they recognize the realities, catching lightening in a bottle is not happening, eh....... Rather than parrot the trite o line excuse you harp on incessantly... Do me a favor and watch the video a few posts up where the Chargers have 7 plays from inside the 10. 2 key series where they arguably left 14 points on the board. Point out the abject o line failure in each of the plays. I count one of those 7 plays where one could attribute o line execution failure in the inability to score. Would love to hear your take. I put in bold above the important part of my post that you seem incapable of comprehending or acknowledging. While failure can most often be found in the crappy OL group, the rest of the entire club is contributing to the debacle of a season. A few more losses, and the AL house of cards will come crashing down. AL best get on a winning streak is my thought.
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