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Post by cthommes on Oct 20, 2019 19:10:56 GMT -7
Playing him hasn't made the bolts better. He is flat out average at best. Returned home from a fantastic vacation, only to look at how the Bolts have done the last two weeks.......what a debacle. Gordon is not average, but he is not worth his ask. The OL is average, and that is the problem....... Recommend watching games before making sweeping assessments. |
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 20, 2019 19:16:37 GMT -7
Returned home from a fantastic vacation, only to look at how the Bolts have done the last two weeks.......what a debacle. Gordon is not average, but he is not worth his ask. The OL is average, and that is the problem....... Recommend watching games before making sweeping assessments. I have watched MG in plenty of games, I feel comfortable in my assessment of his value, regardless of the events these past two weeks.
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Post by cthommes on Oct 20, 2019 19:20:37 GMT -7
Recommend watching games before making sweeping assessments. I have watched MG in plenty of games, I feel comfortable in my assessment of his value, regardless of the events these past two weeks. Interesting take. Rivers has been trash. Receivers have been trash. MG has been trash. AE has fumbled twice inside the 1. The defense has been trash, particularly against garbage offenses. The only bright spot I've seen this season is the return of Hunter Henry. But if you want to keep banging the O line drum, by all means. |
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Post by totallybolted on Oct 20, 2019 19:28:38 GMT -7
Playing him hasn't made the bolts better. He is flat out average at best. Returned home from a fantastic vacation, only to look at how the Bolts have done the last two weeks.......what a debacle. Gordon is not average, but he is not worth his ask. The OL is average, and that is the problem....... He is not worth his ask BECAUSE he is average. If he was good he would make the OL look better. he doesn't. He screwed the team sitting out and has now screwed himself. If he was good, it would show by now. Ekler is a fumbler. So he is not much better
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 20, 2019 19:28:53 GMT -7
I have watched MG in plenty of games, I feel comfortable in my assessment of his value, regardless of the events these past two weeks. Interesting take. Rivers has been trash. Receivers have been trash. MG has been trash. AE has fumbled twice inside the 1. The defense has been trash, particularly against garbage offenses. The only bright spot I've seen this season is the return of Hunter Henry. But if you want to keep banging the O line drum, by all means. You are more than welcome to express your fix any time.......or just sit in the stands and bitch. Rivers will be in the HOF, the WR's are very solid with KA and MW, MG is a solid RB, as is Ekler.....give them a top OL, and watch what happens. Defence lost DJ early, and he is the guy that makes all around him think and play better than they are.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 20, 2019 19:34:53 GMT -7
Returned home from a fantastic vacation, only to look at how the Bolts have done the last two weeks.......what a debacle. Gordon is not average, but he is not worth his ask. The OL is average, and that is the problem....... He is not worth his ask BECAUSE he is average. If he was good he would make the OL look better. he doesn't. He screwed the team sitting out and has now screwed himself. If he was good, it would show by now. Ekler is a fumbler. So he is not much better I am no Gordon fan, and really do not care if he walks. That said, I do acknowledge his talent. He is replaceable because his ask is not justified, as I can get that production from a 2nd rd pick, at a much better rate. Ekler is fine, he just doesn't believe.....but Gordon doesn't either. Bad OL does that......it is like crap defence in front of a great goalie, doesn't take long for that goalie to not believe in his talent.
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Post by diehardcharge on Oct 20, 2019 19:42:52 GMT -7
Tbh, I have to agree with the assessment that our OLINE is dire need of talent and health. Week in and week out we see how little time Rivers has, the pressure created, lack of holes or push off the LOS; it’s quite embarrassing. I think it starts with TT doing a better job in scouting talent in the offensive line area and making that a primary focus. I get the philosophy of building talent through the draft but with the offensive line, there’s been too many misses over hits.
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Post by totallybolted on Oct 20, 2019 19:44:43 GMT -7
career wise Gordon has been above average. I'll admit. But right now he is not.
Ekler fumbles because his discipline is poor. He tries for more. that is good in one sense, but with his poor style it works against him. I'm not into the head games. What may be true for a goalie, I don't think fits here. The analogy doesn't connect.
We need the old "Fire him now" threads...Maybe Pac will show up then
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Post by diehardcharge on Oct 20, 2019 19:47:37 GMT -7
career wise Gordon has been above average. I'll admit. But right now he is not. Ekler fumbles because his discipline is poor. He tries for more. that is good in one sense, but with his poor style it works against him. I'm not into the head games. What may be true for a goalie, I don't think fits here. The analogy doesn't connect. We need the old "Fire him now" threads...Maybe Pac will show up then Would u like me to start one? But I just don’t know who to fire. There’s so many options on the table |
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Post by cthommes on Oct 20, 2019 19:51:49 GMT -7
Interesting take. Rivers has been trash. Receivers have been trash. MG has been trash. AE has fumbled twice inside the 1. The defense has been trash, particularly against garbage offenses. The only bright spot I've seen this season is the return of Hunter Henry. But if you want to keep banging the O line drum, by all means. You are more than welcome to express your fix any time.......or just sit in the stands and bitch. Rivers will be in the HOF, the WR's are very solid with KA and MW, MG is a solid RB, as is Ekler.....give them a top OL, and watch what happens. Defence lost DJ early, and he is the guy that makes all around him think and play better than they are. I don't have a fix, i have posted my assessment above. I have posted what I believe to be the cause of my above assessment in the "losing recipe" thread or whatever it's called. Though I must say I have a hard time carrying on a rational debate on this team's flaws with someone who has stubbornly made up his mind solely based on name recognition, box scores, and a couple games maybe partially observed several seasons back. |
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 20, 2019 19:54:28 GMT -7
Tbh, I have to agree with the assessment that our OLINE is dire need of talent and health. Week in and week out we see how little time Rivers has, the pressure created, lack of holes or push off the LOS; it’s quite embarrassing. I think it starts with TT doing a better job in scouting talent in the offensive line area and making that a primary focus. I get the philosophy of building talent through the draft but with the offensive line, there’s been too many misses over hits. Yes, the TT misses with OL picks have been the big issue in my view. The injuries are a close second.....
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Post by lightsout42 on Oct 20, 2019 19:56:22 GMT -7
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 20, 2019 19:58:40 GMT -7
You are more than welcome to express your fix any time.......or just sit in the stands and bitch. Rivers will be in the HOF, the WR's are very solid with KA and MW, MG is a solid RB, as is Ekler.....give them a top OL, and watch what happens. Defence lost DJ early, and he is the guy that makes all around him think and play better than they are. I don't have a fix, i have posted my assessment above. I have posted what I believe to be the cause of my above assessment in the "losing recipe" thread or whatever it's called. Though I must say I have a hard time carrying on a rational debate on this team's flaws with someone who has stubbornly made up his mind solely based on name recognition, box scores, and a couple games maybe partially observed several seasons back. With you thinking so poorly of my views, why do you bother responding to anything I post?
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Post by totallybolted on Oct 20, 2019 20:31:19 GMT -7
I don't have a fix, i have posted my assessment above. I have posted what I believe to be the cause of my above assessment in the "losing recipe" thread or whatever it's called. Though I must say I have a hard time carrying on a rational debate on this team's flaws with someone who has stubbornly made up his mind solely based on name recognition, box scores, and a couple games maybe partially observed several seasons back. With you thinking so poorly of my views, why do you bother responding to anything I post? He's disgusted, angry, and drunk. And well... your fun to pick on. Give me a few more beers...
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Post by NoMoreChillies on Oct 20, 2019 20:48:05 GMT -7
didnt matter who was running the ball, if the O-Line cant move forward 1 foot then its a loss.
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