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Post by wahoo21 on Nov 7, 2019 21:48:01 GMT -7
LMAO.....that is so Chargers....smoke the Packers and play down for the Raiders
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Post by totallybolted on Nov 7, 2019 21:56:20 GMT -7
I'm thinking the bolts are ending up no better than 7-9. 6-10 at worse.
that's picking top 10?
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Post by moekid on Nov 7, 2019 22:56:35 GMT -7
Doesn’t matter where they pick. TT will whiff. Or the guy will get injured. It’s enough with this cursed, broken franchise.
Please move to London
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Post by NoMoreChillies on Nov 8, 2019 1:53:00 GMT -7
i am crushed Rivers failed another clutch game with "hero ball" Did whiz sneak back into playcalling? Sort of had to with this pathetic offensive line don’t you think? sure the O-line was bad Still on the final drive Rivers had a chance to hit an open HH 13yrds downfield and decided to throw into double coverage instead. Face it folks: Our HoF 16yr veteran QB choked. 0/7 long deep passes when all we needed was a FG to win.
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Post by NYBOLTFAN1 on Nov 8, 2019 3:36:44 GMT -7
Thought they would pull it out, I was wrong. Same Charger team.
Raiders leaving California and still their fans pack the stadium. It’s no wonder with no real home and lousy ownership this team wins any games.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 8, 2019 4:02:32 GMT -7
Sort of had to with this pathetic offensive line don’t you think? sure the O-line was bad Still on the final drive Rivers had a chance to hit an open HH 13yrds downfield and decided to throw into double coverage instead. Face it folks: Our HoF 16yr veteran QB choked. 0/7 long deep passes when all we needed was a FG to win. Rivers had a bad game, and we were still in it. I'm not excusing him at all, but I would like to post about our Offensive line. I am completely done with it. Over. OVER it. The responsibility falls 100% on GM Tom Telesco. It is his job to acquire, and when it is bad, he is to blame. Now what do you do about it. My expectations, which so far the evidence is they will not do it, is to draft early on oline, get free agents oline, and release what you have to in order to make roster room and Cap Space. It is beyond ridiculous, whatever experiment you are running FOR YEARS has failed. Failed failed failed. Done, over, finished. Spend a first and a second round pick, Get a top free agent, and get a mid-range money free agent, and fix this god damn offensive line. Cut anyone you have to to make the room. Our quality at Tackle is a freaking joke, and an embarrassment. Okung's blood injuries, Tevi, Scott, and Pipkins. You have to be freak frackin' flippin, kidding me. It isn't Gel, it isn't time, it isn't projects. What it is is SUCK. All four are on the cut block to make room. Feeney, Schofield, ....all on the cut exam paper. Blow it completely up.
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Post by NYBOLTFAN1 on Nov 8, 2019 4:40:18 GMT -7
Rivers is 38 and not getting any younger. He's a free agent at the end of the season. I love the guy but maybe it's time to rebuild.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 8, 2019 5:44:15 GMT -7
TT sure can draft that talent right guys??? Sigh...
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 8, 2019 6:27:38 GMT -7
I'm thinking the bolts are ending up no better than 7-9. 6-10 at worse. that's picking top 10? Difficult to answer because every year is different.........last year 6-10 got you between 8th pick and 13ish.
7-9 is going to take you out of the top 10. (teens?)
(Last year was a BAD Draft Class for Oline and a half a dozen of them were taken in the first round alone. We got Tillery. Whoever he is.)
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Post by totallybolted on Nov 8, 2019 6:30:24 GMT -7
Thought they would pull it out, I was wrong. Same Charger team. Raiders leaving California and still their fans pack the stadium. It’s no wonder with no real home and lousy ownership this team wins any games. LOL that stadium was NOT full.
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Post by totallybolted on Nov 8, 2019 7:16:50 GMT -7
sure the O-line was bad Still on the final drive Rivers had a chance to hit an open HH 13yrds downfield and decided to throw into double coverage instead. Face it folks: Our HoF 16yr veteran QB choked. 0/7 long deep passes when all we needed was a FG to win. Rivers had a bad game, and we were still in it. I'm not excusing him at all, but I would like to post about our Offensive line. I am completely done with it. Over. OVER it. The responsibility falls 100% on GM Tom Telesco. It is his job to acquire, and when it is bad, he is to blame. Now what do you do about it. My expectations, which so far the evidence is they will not do it, is to draft early on oline, get free agents oline, and release what you have to in order to make roster room and Cap Space. It is beyond ridiculous, whatever experiment you are running FOR YEARS has failed. Failed failed failed. Done, over, finished. Spend a first and a second round pick, Get a top free agent, and get a mid-range money free agent, and fix this god damn offensive line. Cut anyone you have to to make the room. Our quality at Tackle is a freaking joke, and an embarrassment. Okung's blood injuries, Tevi, Scott, and Pipkins. You have to be freak frackin' flippin, kidding me. It isn't Gel, it isn't time, it isn't projects. What it is is SUCK. All four are on the cut block to make room. Feeney, Schofield, ....all on the cut exam paper. Blow it completely up. It was a bit of a trap game coming off a GB high. Losing Okung was huge, though Pipkins I don't think struggled like Scott did. Quessenberry got pushed back way too much. Last year was the year they should have brought in FA OL IMO. The draft was really shallow. But there is A LOT to complain about. PR was off for sure. 3 picks in the first half. One a PICK 6! Only one with HH falling down you take away. I really think PR is too blame for going away with what works. I really do. I think he changes the play because he wants it on him to win. Then the stupid long balls late after the D went soft on the last drive. They had time and they went with what they only ran a few times before in the game with maybe 50% success. TOO MANY empty back field sets IMO. They had both Gordon and Ekler in at the same time is early successful drives. they ran maybe 2 in the entire second half. Both of them were having really good games. In fact, up until Williams catch they had the longest receiving yards at 25 and 23. Defensive woes? Davis was picked on a lot last night. raiders scouted him and it showed. The D was too soft keeping everything underneath with 10 yard cushions. No wonder the raiders marched down field to take the lead. Bosa was handled last night by a rookie LT, he only needed occasional help from Incognito. I though he looked slow. I wonder if he was hurt. Ingram was the bright spot and really stopping the raider run game. minus of course the last TD run. So Carr beat the bolts in the air. Good grief. The biggest issue? the bolts created their own set backs. offense giving up 10 points, delay of game and other brain farts all inside the 10. If it wasn't for the ref's the bolts would have lost worse than they did. The bolts will be in every game. Its just disappointing knowing they do not have the grit or talent to make a win. That is why I think, they are going to find it hard to win more than a couple more with the remaining schedule. we'll see. they probably have a few GB type games in them. James will make a difference. OC Shane is still a question, but at least I like his aggressiveness so far
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Post by NYBOLTFAN1 on Nov 8, 2019 7:18:58 GMT -7
Thought they would pull it out, I was wrong. Same Charger team. Raiders leaving California and still their fans pack the stadium. It’s no wonder with no real home and lousy ownership this team wins any games. LOL that stadium was NOT full. Full compared to what the Chargers draw.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 8, 2019 7:25:58 GMT -7
Rivers had a bad game, and we were still in it. I'm not excusing him at all, but I would like to post about our Offensive line. I am completely done with it. Over. OVER it. The responsibility falls 100% on GM Tom Telesco. It is his job to acquire, and when it is bad, he is to blame. Now what do you do about it. My expectations, which so far the evidence is they will not do it, is to draft early on oline, get free agents oline, and release what you have to in order to make roster room and Cap Space. It is beyond ridiculous, whatever experiment you are running FOR YEARS has failed. Failed failed failed. Done, over, finished. Spend a first and a second round pick, Get a top free agent, and get a mid-range money free agent, and fix this god damn offensive line. Cut anyone you have to to make the room. Our quality at Tackle is a freaking joke, and an embarrassment. Okung's blood injuries, Tevi, Scott, and Pipkins. You have to be freak frackin' flippin, kidding me. It isn't Gel, it isn't time, it isn't projects. What it is is SUCK. All four are on the cut block to make room. Feeney, Schofield, ....all on the cut exam paper. Blow it completely up. It was a bit of a trap game coming off a GB high. Losing Okung was huge, though Pipkins I don't think struggled like Scott did. Quessenberry got pushed back way too much. Last year was the year they should have brought in FA OL IMO. The draft was really shallow. But there is A LOT to complain about. PR was off for sure. 3 picks in the first half. One a PICK 6! Only one with HH falling down you take away. I really think PR is too blame for going away with what works. I really do. I think he changes the play because he wants it on him to win. Then the stupid long balls late after the D went soft on the last drive. They had time and they went with what they only ran a few times before in the game with maybe 50% success. TOO MANY empty back field sets IMO. They had both Gordon and Ekler in at the same time is early successful drives. they ran maybe 2 in the entire second half. Both of them were having really good games. In fact, up until Williams catch they had the longest receiving yards at 25 and 23. Defensive woes? Davis was picked on a lot last night. raiders scouted him and it showed. The D was too soft keeping everything underneath with 10 yard cushions. No wonder the raiders marched down field to take the lead. Bosa was handled last night by a rookie LT, he only needed occasional help from Incognito. I though he looked slow. I wonder if he was hurt. Ingram was the bright spot and really stopping the raider run game. minus of course the last TD run. So Carr beat the bolts in the air. Good grief. The biggest issue? the bolts created their own set backs. offense giving up 10 points, delay of game and other brain farts all inside the 10. If it wasn't for the ref's the bolts would have lost worse than they did. The bolts will be in every game. Its just disappointing knowing they do not have the grit or talent to make a win. That is why I think, they are going to find it hard to win more than a couple more with the remaining schedule. we'll see. they probably have a few GB type games in them. James will make a difference. OC Shane is still a question, but at least I like his aggressiveness so far I'm going to be short and sweet, maybe later I'll do a long reply: It starts with the trenches, and for us its the offensive trench line. It starts there. Period. Talking talk about it is OVER. Deflecting is OVER. Suck is suck, and they suck. Flush the line, and replace with talent.
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Post by Chargeroo on Nov 8, 2019 7:47:13 GMT -7
i am crushed Rivers failed another clutch game with "hero ball" Did whiz sneak back into playcalling? I guess I saw a different game than you saw. I think this loss was on the D. We overcame the early lead to pull ahead in the 2nd quarter as Rivers lead us right down the field on a long drive. But then the defense caved in and gave them a TD just before the half. - Second half, same thing. The offense put together a nice drive to take the lead and the defense let them march on down to the winning TD. I do agree that Rivers had a real bad game. Does anyone else recall that the raiders came into that game with very few sacks for the year? Look at how they did against our OL! To be fair, I wonder if any QB would have had a good game playing behind an OL that turned the raiders into a team with a great pass rush. I blame this loss on an OL that couldn't block your grandma and a defense that gave away two end of half TD's. Maybe next year?
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 8, 2019 7:48:08 GMT -7
I have a new and exciting thought... Maybe its NOT the oline. Its PR... I seriously want to see what Tyrod can do.
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