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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 8:25:40 GMT -7
I appreciate your fandom. Good call.  But... Our nuts are still swinging. That is why we are here. Frustration is all. people need to let it air out. I figure a lot has to do with last years record, the potential the roster held, the awesome domination of the Pack which gave the impression the pieces were finally coming together like we expected... then to see it fall apart like a crappy muffin. you get it. Last year’s record has proved to be a mirage. The Raider game was a shocking 4 minute failure. 4 minutes. Just took the lead 24-20 after a lengthy drive. 4 minutes left. Just keep em out of the EZ. Instead we got the worst version of our defense. No pressure combined with poor coverage topped off with no resistance Oman 18 yard run highlighted by Ritchie Incognito burying the DL and Jenkins whiffing. Then a missed PAt. 1 minute left. All three TO’s. Not too tall an order. In fact, any QB worth their salt moves a team into FG range. Instead we get the worst offensive series of 8 plays I think I have ever seen by any football team. We did not gain a single yard. NOT ONE YARD!!! And that’s how the west was lost. I never believed that 12-4 record was a true reflection of the roster talent.
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Post by totallybolted on Nov 10, 2019 9:50:11 GMT -7
Last year’s record has proved to be a mirage. The Raider game was a shocking 4 minute failure. 4 minutes. Just took the lead 24-20 after a lengthy drive. 4 minutes left. Just keep em out of the EZ. Instead we got the worst version of our defense. No pressure combined with poor coverage topped off with no resistance Oman 18 yard run highlighted by Ritchie Incognito burying the DL and Jenkins whiffing. Then a missed PAt. 1 minute left. All three TO’s. Not too tall an order. In fact, any QB worth their salt moves a team into FG range. Instead we get the worst offensive series of 8 plays I think I have ever seen by any football team. We did not gain a single yard. NOT ONE YARD!!! And that’s how the west was lost. I never believed that 12-4 record was a true reflection of the roster talent. My problem with that is it cannot be the only reason for the record today. A lot goes into the record: coaching decisions, lucky breaks, bad breaks, injuries, schedule, talent, bone head mistakes, brilliant plays and specific match ups. Not just for your team, but the other team. How many games have come down to just one play making the difference? I would argue a lot. I'm not discounting we need OL talent and other positions addressed. I'm simply stating that you cannot point to the talent on the team, as the ONLY reason or the Major reason this team is at 4-6.
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Post by ChargingBolts on Nov 10, 2019 11:55:18 GMT -7
Pretty certain he was agreeing to the content of the paragraph above the one you put in bold. 10-6 would require a six game winning streak, while not impossible, it would be highly unlikely.......8-8 or 7-9 seems more probable, and both would not make the PO's in my view. Let’s see, 2 against the Chiefs, at Denver, at Jax, Minn and Oakland. Have to go 4-2 just to get to 8-8. Hard to see a 6 win season. That’s 6 total I hate the let's take it one week at a time approach but to keep our sanity we almost have to do this approach .. here is a possible realistic take: Play the Chiefs as well as we did against the Packers = W ... at Denver revenge against a bad Denver team = W ... at Jax play good enough ball to win at the end to offset the loss at Tenn = W ... Minn play good enough ball to win at the end to offset the loss to Det = W ... Play Oakland at "Home" in front of 2/3rds Raiders fans Rivers is hot instead of cold plus we hopefully have Derwin back = W ... at K.C. magic runs out = L = 9-7 ... BUT ... could the Bills get cold and end up 9-7? yes ... could the Raiders end up 9-7? yes ... could the Steelers be 8-8 or 7-9? could the Titans be 8-8? yes ... could the Colts be 9-7? yes we have the tie breaker just as we would against the Jags in this scenario ... It doesn't matter the record of Ravens, Texans, Chiefs, Pats we want them to beat these wild card contenders ... it only matters about wild card teams, we have to just worry about the Bills who could lose at Cleveland today or if the Bills are def in then worry about the Raiders and they can still lost to the Broncos, Chiefs, NFC North, etc. Go into the playoffs with lessons learned, healthy players back and go on a run!
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 13:24:04 GMT -7
I never believed that 12-4 record was a true reflection of the roster talent. My problem with that is it cannot be the only reason for the record today. A lot goes into the record: coaching decisions, lucky breaks, bad breaks, injuries, schedule, talent, bone head mistakes, brilliant plays and specific match ups. Not just for your team, but the other team. How many games have come down to just one play making the difference? I would argue a lot. I'm not discounting we need OL talent and other positions addressed. I'm simply stating that you cannot point to the talent on the team, as the ONLY reason or the Major reason this team is at 4-6. Fix the OL, fix the offence......and a fixed offence would have had a few more wins this year. That said, the injuries are a real determinate aspect, not just some excuse. Lynn is maxed out as a HC.....same bad mistakes as his first year. Time to move on.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 13:26:40 GMT -7
Let’s see, 2 against the Chiefs, at Denver, at Jax, Minn and Oakland. Have to go 4-2 just to get to 8-8. Hard to see a 6 win season. That’s 6 total I hate the let's take it one week at a time approach but to keep our sanity we almost have to do this approach .. here is a possible realistic take: Play the Chiefs as well as we did against the Packers = W ... at Denver revenge against a bad Denver team = W ... at Jax play good enough ball to win at the end to offset the loss at Tenn = W ... Minn play good enough ball to win at the end to offset the loss to Det = W ... Play Oakland at "Home" in front of 2/3rds Raiders fans Rivers is hot instead of cold plus we hopefully have Derwin back = W ... at K.C. magic runs out = L = 9-7 ... BUT ... could the Bills get cold and end up 9-7? yes ... could the Raiders end up 9-7? yes ... could the Steelers be 8-8 or 7-9? could the Titans be 8-8? yes ... could the Colts be 9-7? yes we have the tie breaker just as we would against the Jags in this scenario ... It doesn't matter the record of Ravens, Texans, Chiefs, Pats we want them to beat these wild card contenders ... it only matters about wild card teams, we have to just worry about the Bills who could lose at Cleveland today or if the Bills are def in then worry about the Raiders and they can still lost to the Broncos, Chiefs, NFC North, etc. Go into the playoffs with lessons learned, healthy players back and go on a run! Any, or all, of what you posted is possible.....but the likely result is no PO's for the Bolts.
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Post by ChargingBolts on Nov 10, 2019 14:44:42 GMT -7
I hate the let's take it one week at a time approach but to keep our sanity we almost have to do this approach .. here is a possible realistic take: Play the Chiefs as well as we did against the Packers = W ... at Denver revenge against a bad Denver team = W ... at Jax play good enough ball to win at the end to offset the loss at Tenn = W ... Minn play good enough ball to win at the end to offset the loss to Det = W ... Play Oakland at "Home" in front of 2/3rds Raiders fans Rivers is hot instead of cold plus we hopefully have Derwin back = W ... at K.C. magic runs out = L = 9-7 ... BUT ... could the Bills get cold and end up 9-7? yes ... could the Raiders end up 9-7? yes ... could the Steelers be 8-8 or 7-9? could the Titans be 8-8? yes ... could the Colts be 9-7? yes we have the tie breaker just as we would against the Jags in this scenario ... It doesn't matter the record of Ravens, Texans, Chiefs, Pats we want them to beat these wild card contenders ... it only matters about wild card teams, we have to just worry about the Bills who could lose at Cleveland today or if the Bills are def in then worry about the Raiders and they can still lost to the Broncos, Chiefs, NFC North, etc. Go into the playoffs with lessons learned, healthy players back and go on a run! Any, or all, of what you posted is possible.....but the likely result is no PO's for the Bolts. Now with the Chiefs losing the AFCW is up for grabs, we get Derwin back, play like we played against GB we can win this sorry division!
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Post by eurobolt on Nov 10, 2019 15:02:34 GMT -7
Any, or all, of what you posted is possible.....but the likely result is no PO's for the Bolts. Now with the Chiefs losing the AFCW is up for grabs, we get Derwin back, play like we played against GB we can win this sorry division! Not only Chargers culture need to be changed, anyone who come up with division up to grabs please stop, please do not let them fool us again ! I am not delusional anymore about this season. |
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 16:12:51 GMT -7
Any, or all, of what you posted is possible.....but the likely result is no PO's for the Bolts. Now with the Chiefs losing the AFCW is up for grabs, we get Derwin back, play like we played against GB we can win this sorry division! A 4-6 club isn't going to be the club to win it though...... Funny how the world beater Mahomes isn't finding the wins as easily....DC's get paid for a reason.
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Post by ChargingBolts on Nov 10, 2019 23:57:06 GMT -7
I'd fix 2020 by us winning the SB in Feb of 2020!!
Remember when the Seahawks won their division at 7-9 and hosted a playoff game and beat the Saints?
That's what the Chargers deserve, to win a SB with a 7-9 record to offset all the bad b.s. jinxy crap over their existence.
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Post by moekid on Nov 11, 2019 0:35:38 GMT -7
I'd fix 2020 by us winning the SB in Feb of 2020!! Remember when the Seahawks won their division at 7-9 and hosted a playoff game and beat the Saints? That's what the Chargers deserve, to win a SB with a 7-9 record to offset all the bad b.s. jinxy crap over their existence. It’s not happening. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 11, 2019 3:16:54 GMT -7
I never believed that 12-4 record was a true reflection of the roster talent. My problem with that is it cannot be the only reason for the record today. A lot goes into the record: coaching decisions, lucky breaks, bad breaks, injuries, schedule, talent, bone head mistakes, brilliant plays and specific match ups. Not just for your team, but the other team. How many games have come down to just one play making the difference? I would argue a lot. I'm not discounting we need OL talent and other positions addressed. I'm simply stating that you cannot point to the talent on the team, as the ONLY reason or the Major reason this team is at 4-6. I wouldn't the only reason, but I would say Major reason. People were posting injuries stats all season. An example was at one point 12 of our 22 starters were injured. That is not only a hell of a lot, that is easily enough to sway close games into losses.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 11, 2019 3:48:37 GMT -7
None of the Bolts' six losses have come by more than seven points, their average margin of defeat just 4.8 points.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 11, 2019 7:58:16 GMT -7
None of the Bolts' six losses have come by more than seven points, their average margin of defeat just 4.8 points. With a middle of the rankings OL and those six losses become 3 wins 3 losses.....at minimum.
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Post by moekid on Nov 11, 2019 9:47:38 GMT -7
None of the Bolts' six losses have come by more than seven points, their average margin of defeat just 4.8 points. Rivers always says it’s a one score league and look around he’s pretty much spot on. Every single game Sunday was within 1 score except Bengals loss to Ravens and Saints loss to Falcons |
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Post by moekid on Nov 11, 2019 9:56:33 GMT -7
None of the Bolts' six losses have come by more than seven points, their average margin of defeat just 4.8 points. They have lost games they should have won. Period. End of story, end of season. I can’t ratchet up any hope after what I’ve seen this year. Maybe later this week I’ll start to fool myself into believing again. I’m not there yet tho. |
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