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Post by frozendisc on Nov 26, 2019 6:47:58 GMT -7
I'm sure the same was said for all the no name QB's that became stars in the league... Just because they are not draftnik analyzed to death doesn't mean they are not out there. Truth is you never know who is pro ready and who is not... How do you spell his last name again ? Mahomes is the last one that slipped through the draft radar......at least the last biggie. We can't draft a freakin Guard in 7 years of trying, and we are going to not only nail a QB with one shot, but pick out a darkhorse in the field............................................................I just don't think I am feeling that. If that is the true belief, then I would suggest being cautious about pushing Rivers out the door.
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Post by boltgang74 on Nov 28, 2019 14:10:06 GMT -7
This has been my concern for the last few seasons.We get to trust lil twerp Johnny boy to help pick the next leader of our team?Yeah enjoy the Rivers days guys cuz the future looks kinda bleak.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 29, 2019 3:33:26 GMT -7
This has been my concern for the last few seasons. We get to trust lil twerp Johnny boy to help pick the next leader of our team?Yeah enjoy the Rivers days guys cuz the future looks kinda bleak. Its getting rough for the old front office. Wow. Destructo.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 29, 2019 8:22:33 GMT -7
This has been my concern for the last few seasons.We get to trust lil twerp Johnny boy to help pick the next leader of our team?Yeah enjoy the Rivers days guys cuz the future looks kinda bleak. Ownership involved in too many decisions is not a good plan in my experience. J Spanos' position with the club influences far too many decisions.....
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Post by boltgang74 on Nov 29, 2019 15:00:40 GMT -7
We all know deep down little Johnny Nepotism has is whole fist in the pie and influences way too many decisions on this team especially personnel i.e. the draft.Another poster stated Rivers is an albatross around this team's neck and I disagree.The Spaznos are the true culprits.
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Post by Chargeroo on Nov 29, 2019 15:22:20 GMT -7
We all know deep down little Johnny Nepotism has is whole fist in the pie and influences way too many decisions on this team especially personnel i.e. the draft.Another poster stated Rivers is an albatross around this team's neck and I disagree.The Spaznos are the true culprits. C'mon man! - we don't know what kind if influence he had on the draft. He may be bad for the team but we really don't know that. For all we know he may be a good influence. He's been working with the team scouts for a long time now.. He must have learned something along the way. The only reason to be pointing a finger at him is nepotism but many times the son of the boss turns out to be better than the old man.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 29, 2019 18:36:50 GMT -7
We all know deep down little Johnny Nepotism has is whole fist in the pie and influences way too many decisions on this team especially personnel i.e. the draft.Another poster stated Rivers is an albatross around this team's neck and I disagree.The Spaznos are the true culprits. C'mon man! - we don't know what kind if influence he had on the draft. He may be bad for the team but we really don't know that. For all we know he may be a good influence. He's been working with the team scouts for a long time now.. He must have learned something along the way. The only reason to be pointing a finger at him is nepotism but many times the son of the boss turns out to be better than the old man. J Spanos is part of the ownership, and has been since his first day 'working with the team scouts'......and you do not think those scouts were quite clued in about just who he was. Nah.....no influence in how his opinions were handled, nah...none at all. My guess, and that is all it is, is J Spanos actually believes he has an eye for evaluating talent. That belief is now influencing decisions on FA's and draft picks each year. TT is the face of the organization, and gets the blame, but that is more about owners' kids do not get blamed or fired.
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Post by Chargeroo on Nov 29, 2019 18:41:35 GMT -7
C'mon man! - we don't know what kind if influence he had on the draft. He may be bad for the team but we really don't know that. For all we know he may be a good influence. He's been working with the team scouts for a long time now.. He must have learned something along the way. The only reason to be pointing a finger at him is nepotism but many times the son of the boss turns out to be better than the old man. J Spanos is part of the ownership, and has been since his first day 'working with the team scouts'......and you do not think those scouts were quite clued in about just who he was. Nah.....no influence in how his opinions were handled, nah...none at all. My guess, and that is all it is, is J Spanos actually believes he has an eye for evaluating talent. That belief is now influencing decisions on FA's and draft picks each year. TT is the face of the organization, and gets the blame, but that is more about owners' kids do not get blamed or fired.
So you're blaming it on the Spanos kid? I just read on facebook - it's Trumps fault.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 29, 2019 18:53:50 GMT -7
J Spanos is part of the ownership, and has been since his first day 'working with the team scouts'......and you do not think those scouts were quite clued in about just who he was. Nah.....no influence in how his opinions were handled, nah...none at all. My guess, and that is all it is, is J Spanos actually believes he has an eye for evaluating talent. That belief is now influencing decisions on FA's and draft picks each year. TT is the face of the organization, and gets the blame, but that is more about owners' kids do not get blamed or fired.
So you're blaming it on the Spanos kid? I just read on facebook - it's Trumps fault.
I have always felt that there were concerns about drafting decisions. TT's first year or two seemed like the drafts were a bit all over the map, then the roster build seemed to find a good path but then they missed on OL picks, and that has killed this build in my view. Who is making those decisions has been a big question for me. If it truly was TT alone, fire him today. I suspect J Spanos' influence in this, and we as fans are unlikely to ever know, as the blame will go to whomever has the GM in front of their name......and that is why I do not like ownership involved in decision making in a large degree. They get to influence decisions but never actually have to own them.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 1, 2019 3:24:07 GMT -7
We all know deep down little Johnny Nepotism has is whole fist in the pie and influences way too many decisions on this team especially personnel i.e. the draft.Another poster stated Rivers is an albatross around this team's neck and I disagree.The Spaznos are the true culprits. C'mon man! - we don't know what kind if influence he had on the draft. He may be bad for the team but we really don't know that. For all we know he may be a good influence. He's been working with the team scouts for a long time now.. He must have learned something along the way. The only reason to be pointing a finger at him is nepotism but many times the son of the boss turns out to be better than the old man. My experiences have seen the exact opposite.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 1, 2019 3:47:53 GMT -7
So you're blaming it on the Spanos kid? I just read on facebook - it's Trumps fault.
I have always felt that there were concerns about drafting decisions. TT's first year or two seemed like the drafts were a bit all over the map, then the roster build seemed to find a good path but then they missed on OL picks, and that has killed this build in my view. Who is making those decisions has been a big question for me. If it truly was TT alone, fire him today. Its not happening and I'l give you some reality lessons. TT has to date been bad at drafting Oline. That is not going to get him fired. What you look at here is his body of work, and it has been pretty darn good. Derwin James early, Desmond King in the 5th round. I'm not going to go through the whole list Keenan Allen in the 3rd round etc etc. Don't fall into the average fan thinking that you have to hit on all 7 picks every single year in the draft or you failed/need fired. That's not how this works. If you had 3 guys that just made the roster alone, you actually had a good draft. That's how this works. Two guys is a solid draft. TT is going no where. Now, do you want to get him fired ? Let me show you your opportunity: QB Its the most important position on the team. Get it wrong, and it sets your team back for years. QB selection IS your ass on the line. Many a GM have been fired for getting the QB selection wrong. Man this is such a great post of mine.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 1, 2019 5:04:15 GMT -7
This has been my concern for the last few seasons.We get to trust lil twerp Johnny boy to help pick the next leader of our team?Yeah enjoy the Rivers days guys cuz the future looks kinda bleak. Ownership involved in too many decisions is not a good plan in my experience. J Spanos' position with the club influences far too many decisions..... You say this alot but do you have any evidence of this or is it just your opinion you're presenting as fact? I wouldn't be surprised if your right, I'm just really curious if this opinion is based off anything documented.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 1, 2019 9:10:19 GMT -7
I have always felt that there were concerns about drafting decisions. TT's first year or two seemed like the drafts were a bit all over the map, then the roster build seemed to find a good path but then they missed on OL picks, and that has killed this build in my view. Who is making those decisions has been a big question for me. If it truly was TT alone, fire him today. Its not happening and I'l give you some reality lessons. TT has to date been bad at drafting Oline. That is not going to get him fired. What you look at here is his body of work, and it has been pretty darn good. Derwin James early, Desmond King in the 5th round. I'm not going to go through the whole list Keenan Allen in the 3rd round etc etc. Don't fall into the average fan thinking that you have to hit on all 7 picks every single year in the draft or you failed/need fired. That's not how this works. If you had 3 guys that just made the roster alone, you actually had a good draft. That's how this works. Two guys is a solid draft. TT is going no where. Now, do you want to get him fired ? Let me show you your opportunity: QB Its the most important position on the team. Get it wrong, and it sets your team back for years. QB selection IS your ass on the line. Many a GM have been fired for getting the QB selection wrong. Man this is such a great post of mine. You failed to follow the skittles on the ground...... I do not believe TT is making the decisions alone, and when you look at all other aspects of the club, TT isn't going anywhere. (nor would I want that) It will not be long before the Bolts are wishing they had Rivers, as finding a true franchise QB will be a huge challenge for them.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 1, 2019 9:11:52 GMT -7
Ownership involved in too many decisions is not a good plan in my experience. J Spanos' position with the club influences far too many decisions..... You say this alot but do you have any evidence of this or is it just your opinion you're presenting as fact? I wouldn't be surprised if your right, I'm just really curious if this opinion is based off anything documented. Not too sure how you could take my post as anything other than opinion. Clearly I am not presenting it as fact......
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 1, 2019 10:18:40 GMT -7
Ownership involved in too many decisions is not a good plan in my experience. J Spanos' position with the club influences far too many decisions..... You say this alot but do you have any evidence of this or is it just your opinion you're presenting as fact? I wouldn't be surprised if your right, I'm just really curious if this opinion is based off anything documented. That means nothing documented. At all. None. Zero.
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