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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 15, 2019 20:42:14 GMT -7
My stance has not changed... I knew this. Fire TT, Lynn, and Bradley. Let PR and Gordon walk. Draft Burrow and start Taylor for a year, unless Burrow is ready. Burrow will likely go #1, Bolts do not own that pick. The cost to own it is prohibitive........ The better QB will be Herbert, and Bolts might have a chance for him....... They will resign Rivers, as they should. Fix the OL, Fix the offence. Re-sign Rivers only if a team-friendly number. They need cap room. And as to drafting a QB, they’re going to need to leverage the future no matter what. Too many teams want a franchise QB. Either they wait for a top-5 pick (which may not be a stretch) or they trade something of value.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 15, 2019 21:03:17 GMT -7
Burrow will likely go #1, Bolts do not own that pick. The cost to own it is prohibitive........ The better QB will be Herbert, and Bolts might have a chance for him....... They will resign Rivers, as they should. Fix the OL, Fix the offence. Re-sign Rivers only if a team-friendly number. They need cap room. And as to drafting a QB, they’re going to need to leverage the future no matter what. Too many teams want a franchise QB. Either they wait for a top-5 pick (which may not be a stretch) or they trade something of value. Team friendly is a ridiculous term......how about they offer a fair market value, or see him walk and live with or accept those ramifications. No Rivers, and top five pick is more likely than not. QB hell it will be.....
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 15, 2019 21:08:36 GMT -7
Re-sign Rivers only if a team-friendly number. They need cap room. And as to drafting a QB, they’re going to need to leverage the future no matter what. Too many teams want a franchise QB. Either they wait for a top-5 pick (which may not be a stretch) or they trade something of value. Team friendly is a ridiculous term......how about they offer a fair market value, or see him walk and live with or accept those ramifications. No Rivers, and top five pick is more likely than not. QB hell it will be..... Team-friendly means he doesn’t need to move and they get some cap space. Otherwise they’d be better off getting it all, living in QB hell, and hoping for the next 2001.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 15, 2019 21:12:56 GMT -7
Team friendly is a ridiculous term......how about they offer a fair market value, or see him walk and live with or accept those ramifications. No Rivers, and top five pick is more likely than not. QB hell it will be..... Team-friendly means he doesn’t need to move and they get some cap space. Otherwise they’d be better off getting it all, living in QB hell, and hoping for the next 2001. I just do not like the term..... I sign Rivers for 25 mil/yr 2 yrs or let him walk.....and enter QB hell. Walk from Okung, Pouncy, Gordon, and others......
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 15, 2019 21:15:33 GMT -7
Team-friendly means he doesn’t need to move and they get some cap space. Otherwise they’d be better off getting it all, living in QB hell, and hoping for the next 2001. I just do not like the term..... I sign Rivers for 25 mil/yr 2 yrs or let him walk.....and enter QB hell. Walk from Okung, Pouncy, Gordon, and others...... Do you mean $25M/year for 2, or $25M guaranteed for 2? The rest I wouldn’t quibble with.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 15, 2019 21:21:22 GMT -7
I just do not like the term..... I sign Rivers for 25 mil/yr 2 yrs or let him walk.....and enter QB hell. Walk from Okung, Pouncy, Gordon, and others...... Do you mean $25M/year for 2, or $25M guaranteed for 2? The rest I wouldn’t quibble with. 25 mil/yr for two years......likely only plays the one, but...... No guarantees.....
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Post by cthommes on Dec 15, 2019 21:29:49 GMT -7
Team-friendly means he doesn’t need to move and they get some cap space. Otherwise they’d be better off getting it all, living in QB hell, and hoping for the next 2001. I just do not like the term..... I sign Rivers for 25 mil/yr 2 yrs or let him walk.....and enter QB hell. Walk from Okung, Pouncy, Gordon, and others...... Curious about "others"; you're suggesting walking from three, possibly four of the top 10 players on this team. So, QB hell, LT hell, OC hell, RB hell. What other hells would you have us in?
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 15, 2019 21:39:59 GMT -7
I just do not like the term..... I sign Rivers for 25 mil/yr 2 yrs or let him walk.....and enter QB hell. Walk from Okung, Pouncy, Gordon, and others...... Curious about "others"; you're suggesting walking from three, possibly four of the top 10 players on this team. So, QB hell, LT hell, OC hell, RB hell. What other hells would you have us in? Others are less notable players with contracts expiring that I feel are expendable.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 15, 2019 21:57:45 GMT -7
I just do not like the term..... I sign Rivers for 25 mil/yr 2 yrs or let him walk.....and enter QB hell. Walk from Okung, Pouncy, Gordon, and others...... Curious about "others"; you're suggesting walking from three, possibly four of the top 10 players on this team. So, QB hell, LT hell, OC hell, RB hell. What other hells would you have us in? With the cap space you can fix a lot of problems.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 16, 2019 3:21:41 GMT -7
Team friendly is a ridiculous term......how about they offer a fair market value, or see him walk and live with or accept those ramifications. No Rivers, and top five pick is more likely than not. QB hell it will be..... Team-friendly means he doesn’t need to move and they get some cap space. Otherwise they’d be better off getting it all, living in QB hell, and hoping for the next 2001. Never fear my old friend. Your Grand Emperor is here with answers. My genius mind HAS developed what would be team friendly to assist you. Giver all the way. You do a two year contract and front load the living hell out of it in the first year. That way when you want to cut his ass after one year, it is a smaller cap hit. I think it will be higher, but I will use your guys example of two year 50 million. You do 35-40 million, everything you can into year 2020. Then if you want to release him before 2021, it's only an approx 10 mill cap hit.
You are all very very welcome.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 16, 2019 5:41:50 GMT -7
Curious about "others"; you're suggesting walking from three, possibly four of the top 10 players on this team. So, QB hell, LT hell, OC hell, RB hell. What other hells would you have us in? Others are less notable players with contracts expiring that I feel are expendable. Less notable? Okung and Pouncey are the best oline players we have... With that said, I'd rather keep Pouncey but Okung can kick rocks.
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Post by NoMoreChillies on Dec 16, 2019 6:05:45 GMT -7
after 7 turnovers, i say blow this offense up.
2016 Rivers had 21INT will he have more 2019?
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 16, 2019 9:37:45 GMT -7
Others are less notable players with contracts expiring that I feel are expendable. Less notable? Okung and Pouncey are the best oline players we have... With that said, I'd rather keep Pouncey but Okung can kick rocks. Less notable..... Culkin, Hardison, Cantrell, Scott, Kendricks, Williams, Groy, Drango, Pope and Rochell...... There are others with their contract ending this season. TT will have his work to do, as these decisions will loom large on 2020's roster.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 16, 2019 9:39:42 GMT -7
after 7 turnovers, i say blow this offense up. 2016 Rivers had 21INT will he have more 2019? Too much talent......I say fix the OL and that fixes the offence to a large degree.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 16, 2019 9:59:20 GMT -7
Less notable? Okung and Pouncey are the best oline players we have... With that said, I'd rather keep Pouncey but Okung can kick rocks. Less notable..... Culkin, Hardison, Cantrell, Scott, Kendricks, Williams, Groy, Drango, Pope and Rochell...... There are others with their contract ending this season. TT will have his work to do, as these decisions will loom large on 2020's roster. You are cutting Mike Williams ??
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