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Post by eurobolt on Jan 20, 2020 12:08:52 GMT -7
This morning I had that strange feeling that we will end up with Cam Newton on the roster...
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Post by wahoo21 on Jan 20, 2020 12:44:15 GMT -7
Rivers is gone and the Chargers DON'T have a following in the SOUTH anymore.....San Diego South
This team will NEVER be in a Super Bowl from here on out as long as Spanos owns the team.
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 20, 2020 12:54:05 GMT -7
This morning I had that strange feeling that we will end up with Cam Newton on the roster... Mariota...
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 20, 2020 13:02:04 GMT -7
This morning I had that strange feeling that we will end up with Cam Newton on the roster... Mariota... Newton, Mariota.....Taylor....what would it matter, going to lose with any of them running the offence.
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Post by Chargeroo on Jan 20, 2020 13:09:19 GMT -7
I'm a big fan of the Ducks but I said a couple of months ago that Herbert is a risk. He sure has the arm strength but he's often inaccurate. When he was a freshman I thought the Ducks had found a really good QB but he seems to have regressed each year since then. I'd probably take a shot at him if we were drafting toward the end of round one but not at #6. Fot you older fans, he kind of reminds me of John Hadl. Remember how Hadl could go from hot to cold all of a sudden - Herbert does that.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 20, 2020 13:13:17 GMT -7
Newton, Mariota.....Taylor....what would it matter, going to lose with any of them running the offence. A healthy Newton might surprise you... Besides that he would undoubtedly give a spark to this fan base. Newton > Tyrod and Stick put together.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 20, 2020 13:37:34 GMT -7
I'm a big fan of the Ducks but I said a couple of months ago that Herbert is a risk. He sure has the arm strength but he's often inaccurate. When he was a freshman I thought the Ducks had found a really good QB but he seems to have regressed each year since then. I'd probably take a shot at him if we were drafting toward the end of round one but not at #6. Fot you older fans, he kind of reminds me of John Hadl. Remember how Hadl could go from hot to cold all of a sudden - Herbert does that. 286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 These are Herbert's stats from this past season......With essentially a 67% completion rate, I just don't see this "he's often inaccurate" story you like to peddle. Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 2016 Oregon Pac-12 FR QB 8 162 255 63.5 1936 7.6 8.4 19 4 148.8 *2017 Oregon Pac-12 SO QB 8 139 206 67.5 1983 9.6 10.0 15 5 167.5 *2018 Oregon Pac-12 JR QB 13 240 404 59.4 3151 7.8 8.3 29 8 144.6 *2019 Oregon Pac-12 SR QB 14 286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 156.8 Career Oregon 827 1293 64.0 10541 8.2 8.8 95 23 153.1 Here is his entire career statistics, which pretty much refute your story about "he seems to have regressed each year"......
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 20, 2020 13:44:31 GMT -7
Newton, Mariota.....Taylor....what would it matter, going to lose with any of them running the offence. A healthy Newton might surprise you... Besides that he would undoubtedly give a spark to this fan base. Newton > Tyrod and Stick put together. The concern is will you ever see a healthy Newton again......
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 20, 2020 13:59:55 GMT -7
A healthy Newton might surprise you... Besides that he would undoubtedly give a spark to this fan base. Newton > Tyrod and Stick put together. The concern is will you ever see a healthy Newton again...... The OL will be stellar. Not to worry. Its TT and the Chargers.
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Post by ChargingBolts on Jan 20, 2020 14:00:57 GMT -7
I don't think anyone but Burrows may be elite (and there are always more flops than hits so even Burrow can flop). Tua seems to me a major flop possibility same with Herbert. So many qb draft flops it's scary. Unless they are touted the way Luck was I have zero interest as it seems 9 of 10 are usually flops. I'd rather do it the way the Cardinals used to do it. They tried hard to get a proven qb in Cousins, they got a proven qb in Carson Palmer, they got a proven qb in Kurt Warner and got to the SB. I want Rivers back, if Rivers refuses due to 16 road games (just like Bosa may and any other free agents) then I want one of the 3 different types of tags put on him, if he demands a trade or sits out then I want to go after a proven qb except for Brady. Go after Brees or some of the other proven f.a's like a Tannehill, Bridgewater, etc.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 20, 2020 14:13:30 GMT -7
A healthy Newton might surprise you... Besides that he would undoubtedly give a spark to this fan base. Newton > Tyrod and Stick put together. The concern is will you ever see a healthy Newton again...... That's a very valid question...
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 20, 2020 14:14:35 GMT -7
I'm a big fan of the Ducks but I said a couple of months ago that Herbert is a risk. He sure has the arm strength but he's often inaccurate. When he was a freshman I thought the Ducks had found a really good QB but he seems to have regressed each year since then. I'd probably take a shot at him if we were drafting toward the end of round one but not at #6. Fot you older fans, he kind of reminds me of John Hadl. Remember how Hadl could go from hot to cold all of a sudden - Herbert does that. 286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 These are Herbert's stats from this past season......With essentially a 67% completion rate, I just don't see this "he's often inaccurate" story you like to peddle. Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 2016 Oregon Pac-12 FR QB 8 162 255 63.5 1936 7.6 8.4 19 4 148.8 *2017 Oregon Pac-12 SO QB 8 139 206 67.5 1983 9.6 10.0 15 5 167.5 *2018 Oregon Pac-12 JR QB 13 240 404 59.4 3151 7.8 8.3 29 8 144.6 *2019 Oregon Pac-12 SR QB 14 286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 156.8 Career Oregon 827 1293 64.0 10541 8.2 8.8 95 23 153.1 Here is his entire career statistics, which pretty much refute your story about "he seems to have regressed each year"...... Read the article I posted in the QB thread... Their knock on Herbert is his accuracy while under pressure, it takes a sharp nose dive.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 20, 2020 14:47:53 GMT -7
286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 These are Herbert's stats from this past season......With essentially a 67% completion rate, I just don't see this "he's often inaccurate" story you like to peddle. Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 2016 Oregon Pac-12 FR QB 8 162 255 63.5 1936 7.6 8.4 19 4 148.8 *2017 Oregon Pac-12 SO QB 8 139 206 67.5 1983 9.6 10.0 15 5 167.5 *2018 Oregon Pac-12 JR QB 13 240 404 59.4 3151 7.8 8.3 29 8 144.6 *2019 Oregon Pac-12 SR QB 14 286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 156.8 Career Oregon 827 1293 64.0 10541 8.2 8.8 95 23 153.1 Here is his entire career statistics, which pretty much refute your story about "he seems to have regressed each year"...... Read the article I posted in the QB thread... Their knock on Herbert is his accuracy while under pressure, it takes a sharp nose dive. Pressure ?!?!?!?! With our oline they are on you so fast he won't feel any pressure, or anything else for that matter. Pressure is for normal teams.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 20, 2020 14:57:35 GMT -7
286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 These are Herbert's stats from this past season......With essentially a 67% completion rate, I just don't see this "he's often inaccurate" story you like to peddle. Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 2016 Oregon Pac-12 FR QB 8 162 255 63.5 1936 7.6 8.4 19 4 148.8 *2017 Oregon Pac-12 SO QB 8 139 206 67.5 1983 9.6 10.0 15 5 167.5 *2018 Oregon Pac-12 JR QB 13 240 404 59.4 3151 7.8 8.3 29 8 144.6 *2019 Oregon Pac-12 SR QB 14 286 428 66.8 3471 8.1 9.0 32 6 156.8 Career Oregon 827 1293 64.0 10541 8.2 8.8 95 23 153.1 Here is his entire career statistics, which pretty much refute your story about "he seems to have regressed each year"...... Read the article I posted in the QB thread... Their knock on Herbert is his accuracy while under pressure, it takes a sharp nose dive. Failing under pressure might very well be Herbert's undoing at the next level, only time will tell. I have absolutely no problem drafting BPA the entire draft. Then all next season we can roll with the slogan Lose For Lawrence.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 21, 2020 2:24:40 GMT -7
I don't think anyone but Burrows may be elite (and there are always more flops than hits so even Burrow can flop). Tua seems to me a major flop possibility same with Herbert. So many qb draft flops it's scary. Unless they are touted the way Luck was I have zero interest as it seems 9 of 10 are usually flops. I'd rather do it the way the Cardinals used to do it. They tried hard to get a proven qb in Cousins, they got a proven qb in Carson Palmer, they got a proven qb in Kurt Warner and got to the SB. I want Rivers back, if Rivers refuses due to 16 road games (just like Bosa may and any other free agents) then I want one of the 3 different types of tags put on him, if he demands a trade or sits out then I want to go after a proven qb except for Brady. Go after Brees or some of the other proven f.a's like a Tannehill, Bridgewater, etc. If he wasn't injured, he would go top 3. By the time the draft rolls around don't be shocked if he still isn't, and don't be shocked if its not us moving up for him.
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