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Post by chargerfreak on May 12, 2020 3:03:49 GMT -7
Geez- it's not even the middle of May and we're already being picked to lose to underdog teams!!! www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-2020-week-1-odds-picks-cardinals-bengals-look-like-best-bets-after-schedule-release/?ftag=SNL-04-10aaa0c&ET_CID=128325&ET_RID=6861196
Chargers (-3.5) at Bengals, O/U 46.5
Sun. Sept. 13, 4:05 p.m. ET (CBS)
I'm gonna be on the Bengals big time in this Week 1 game, because I just don't understand why the Chargers would be a full field goal favorite here. Sure, they have a good overall roster and a potentially elite defense. But it's been very clear that the Bolts plan on being methodical on offense and want to run the ball a ton. I don't think they're going to be putting up more than 18-20 points per game, and I believe Joe Burrow can match that. I love the under in this spot -- it's heavily inflated.
Very Early ATS Pick: Bengals +3.5I understand it's ATS but still- Playing against a rookie QB (the Bengals literally have no one else start-worthy and Burrow being the #1 pick ensures he's gonna be their starter anyway) in his very first game is more than enough to expect the opponent to win! But additionally, the Bengals are a below average team overall, especially on defense. And what do you make of that 18 points a game comment? ? ? It won't be Burrow's first game, as he will play the preseason games, just watch. Yea, first regular season game, but at home..... Herbert will be playing as well, so low scoring is likely, and 18 points is not crazy low. Burrow is the more gifted QB, but he also faces the more talented defence.....it should be interesting. It's pretty damn low. If we are playing the 1985 Bears its not low. But the Bengals ?!?!?!?! Its low.
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Post by afboltfan on May 12, 2020 6:07:23 GMT -7
Top picks rarely start Game 1 when there's a competent veteran on the roster. Tua won't be starting Week 1, and it won't be because he's not physically ready. It's because there is a competent veteran who has won games in the league as a starter on the roster (Ryan Fitzpatrick). The only reason Burrow will be starting Week 1 is because they cut Dalton who would have given them a better chance at winning Week 1. The reason that the Bengals picked #1 in the draft wasn't because of Dalton ... it was because their roster was depleted of talent across the board.
Herbert won't be a failure if he's not playing Week 1. He'll be a failure if he can't win games in Year 2. Could you re-read that line and tell me it makes 100% good sense. I know I'm missing something in the context. What do you mean? I think its pretty accurate, Dalton's stats have been pretty consistent through his career and in only 13 games 2019 was his worst.
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Post by totallybolted on May 12, 2020 6:48:13 GMT -7
Could you re-read that line and tell me it makes 100% good sense. I know I'm missing something in the context. What do you mean? I think its pretty accurate, Dalton's stats have been pretty consistent through his career and in only 13 games 2019 was his worst. marvin lewis..... probably had something to do with dalton's average career
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Post by frozendisc on May 12, 2020 6:48:44 GMT -7
If the sixth overall pick cannot beat out a career backup, then the Bolts are in big trouble...... Talent plays, and Herbert has waaaay more talent. He will be playing.....the Taylor fantasy is just that. Herbert and Stick, cut Taylor..... Top picks rarely start Game 1 when there's a competent veteran on the roster. Tua won't be starting Week 1, and it won't be because he's not physically ready. It's because there is a competent veteran who has won games in the league as a starter on the roster (Ryan Fitzpatrick). The only reason Burrow will be starting Week 1 is because they cut Dalton who would have given them a better chance at winning Week 1. The reason that the Bengals picked #1 in the draft wasn't because of Dalton ... it was because their roster was depleted of talent across the board. Herbert won't be a failure if he's not playing Week 1. He'll be a failure if he can't win games in Year 2. Talent plays......doesn't matter what round they were drafted in, or what position they play. If you are the best talent, you play...... I could see Taylor starting if there is zero TC or pre season games, but it won't matter much as the play across the entire league will be terrible. The entire 'save Herbert for next year' is just crazy.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 12, 2020 7:16:41 GMT -7
Could you re-read that line and tell me it makes 100% good sense. I know I'm missing something in the context. What do you mean? I think its pretty accurate, Dalton's stats have been pretty consistent through his career and in only 13 games 2019 was his worst. Oh now I get what he's saying. My apologies to Joe. I didn't catch it. Early morning no coffee yet. Dalton sucks..........should I stop there ?? No one wanted him as a starter. Dallas gave him PEANUTS to back up Prescott. Marvin Lewis was in Cincy WAYYY too long. No way in hell the new staff was keeping Marvin Lewis' red headed step child of a post season loser QB around. They will build their own QB. Burrow on a Rookie low pay contract while rebuilding the roster ?? They will take that 100 times out of 100. Bye bye Dalton.
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Post by frozendisc on May 12, 2020 7:22:15 GMT -7
What do you mean? I think its pretty accurate, Dalton's stats have been pretty consistent through his career and in only 13 games 2019 was his worst. Oh now I get what he's saying. My apologies to Joe. I didn't catch it. Early morning no coffee yet. Dalton sucks..........should I stop there ?? No one wanted him as a starter. Dallas gave him PEANUTS to back up Prescott. Marvin Lewis was in Cincy WAYYY too long. No way in hell the new staff was keeping Marvin Lewis' red headed step child of a post season loser QB around. They will build their own QB. Burrow on a Rookie low pay contract while rebuilding the roster ?? They will take that 100 times out of 100. Bye bye Dalton. Wonder why Dallas did not sign the great Newton over that terrible Dalton......
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Post by chargerfreak on May 12, 2020 7:39:20 GMT -7
Oh now I get what he's saying. My apologies to Joe. I didn't catch it. Early morning no coffee yet. Dalton sucks..........should I stop there ?? No one wanted him as a starter. Dallas gave him PEANUTS to back up Prescott. Marvin Lewis was in Cincy WAYYY too long. No way in hell the new staff was keeping Marvin Lewis' red headed step child of a post season loser QB around. They will build their own QB. Burrow on a Rookie low pay contract while rebuilding the roster ?? They will take that 100 times out of 100. Bye bye Dalton. Wonder why Dallas did not sign the great Newton over that terrible Dalton...... I firmly believe there are things about Newton that GM's know, and the rest of us do not. Injuries and Org. cancer are two things that come to mind.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 12, 2020 7:40:37 GMT -7
Oh now I get what he's saying. My apologies to Joe. I didn't catch it. Early morning no coffee yet. Dalton sucks..........should I stop there ?? No one wanted him as a starter. Dallas gave him PEANUTS to back up Prescott. Marvin Lewis was in Cincy WAYYY too long. No way in hell the new staff was keeping Marvin Lewis' red headed step child of a post season loser QB around. They will build their own QB. Burrow on a Rookie low pay contract while rebuilding the roster ?? They will take that 100 times out of 100. Bye bye Dalton. Wonder why Dallas did not sign the great Newton over that terrible Dalton...... Dallas got Dalton for a song. Quality back up for 3 million a year + incentives ?? That's a good Dallas deal.
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Post by frozendisc on May 12, 2020 8:30:54 GMT -7
Wonder why Dallas did not sign the great Newton over that terrible Dalton...... Dallas got Dalton for a song. Quality back up for 3 million a year + incentives ?? That's a good Dallas deal. I read somewhere that Newton was now willing to 'consider' a contract that has him as the back up, but only if the money was significant. Dallas got a great signing.....
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Post by frozendisc on May 12, 2020 8:36:23 GMT -7
Wonder why Dallas did not sign the great Newton over that terrible Dalton...... I firmly believe there are things about Newton that GM's know, and the rest of us do not. Injuries and Org. cancer are two things that come to mind. I agree there is something that is being kept out of the media.....and I do not see it as being injuries. GM's would simply say too beat up, easy pass on him, or some such response. I think it is something that the clubs fear the PC culture biting them, so there is simply zero comments.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 12, 2020 9:02:51 GMT -7
Dallas got Dalton for a song. Quality back up for 3 million a year + incentives ?? That's a good Dallas deal. I read somewhere that Newton was now willing to 'consider' a contract that has him as the back up, but only if the money was significant. Dallas got a great signing..... I have heard that one big item is he wanted a starting job. Teams were like----no. It would not surprise me that he has now relented to back up contracts. I honestly think the best home for him might be Jacksonville right now. But if he wants big money----that's a problem right now.
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Post by lazylightning on May 12, 2020 9:07:19 GMT -7
Dallas got Dalton for a song. Quality back up for 3 million a year + incentives ?? That's a good Dallas deal. Chargers are paying Taylor 5.5 million per year. Does that mean Taylor is twice as good as Dalton or Tommy T is twice as bad as Jerry J? 
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Post by chargerfreak on May 12, 2020 9:35:12 GMT -7
Dallas got Dalton for a song. Quality back up for 3 million a year + incentives ?? That's a good Dallas deal. Chargers are paying Taylor 5.5 million per year. Does that mean Taylor is twice as good as Dalton or Tommy T is twice as bad as Jerry J? Those are pretty loaded questions there. No problem. I see through EVERYTHING. I'll take them on, a little off center. Telesco and Jerrah are traditionally opposites. Telesco will drive as low a deal as he can get away with. Jerry pays the hell out of talent. They both landed solid QB's at low low prices. I think the motivations were a little bit different. Andy Dalton was signed RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH DAK PRESCOTT. That was no accident. Dak was high balling, and Andy Dalton was the Dallas response. Thinking about a 51 dollar per year subscription paid to me per poster to continue on this forum.
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Post by labound on May 12, 2020 19:54:45 GMT -7
Thinking about a 51 dollar per year subscription paid to me per poster to continue on this forum. If I posted I would pay but since I don't I won't.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 13, 2020 2:46:14 GMT -7
If I posted I would pay but since I don't I won't. labound !!!!! How have you been my friend ? YOU can get a discounted rate. (thinking maybe coupons..............)
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