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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 20, 2020 0:34:50 GMT -7
That is a pretty firm rule, but I have to believe that Lynn has some pretty strong feelings regarding what has become a worldwide movement given that he had gone through the same experiences multiple times while growing up in Texas. He explained the context of the sound bite, but of course that was not any part of what was amplified on any of the sports networks. Now he has to live with it, but it doesn't really matter regarding his job security: that all rests on the W's and L's in 2020. If he doesn’t understand how the media works he’s not qualified to be the team dog catcher and the comms staff should be fired tonight. Comm director doesn't have any control over his statements in a press conference ... it's all on Lynn. W's and L's is where pretty much where everybody's job lies upon over the next six months.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 20, 2020 6:06:33 GMT -7
A pretty firm rule.......talk about the players on our roster ONLY......to do otherwise will get the conversation on a coaching change started. It just stuns me when a HC goes against this rule. That is a pretty firm rule, but I have to believe that Lynn has some pretty strong feelings regarding what has become a worldwide movement given that he had gone through the same experiences multiple times while growing up in Texas. He explained the context of the sound bite, but of course that was not any part of what was amplified on any of the sports networks. Now he has to live with it, but it doesn't really matter regarding his job security: that all rests on the W's and L's in 2020. While I agree the media took Lynn's comments and made them into much more than what Lynn meant, this is the perfect example of why the 'talk about our players only' rule exists, and Lynn should be well aware of this. When Lynn became a coach he crossed over the line into club operations, and as such the rule of thumb is never do anything to hurt the club, regardless of personal feelings. I get he might have very strong beliefs on this, but he needs to check those beliefs away. I can hear the clamor now, but reality is the club comes first, always. When Kaepernick chose to hijack the NFL's platform for his protest, the NFL was ill prepared on how to handle it, being that it came from a player. Regardless of the virtues of Kaps motivations, just look at the damage that has been done to the NFL, and continues to be done.
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Post by lightsout42 on Jun 20, 2020 7:36:18 GMT -7
If he doesn’t understand how the media works he’s not qualified to be the team dog catcher and the comms staff should be fired tonight. Comm director doesn't have any control over his statements in a press conference ... it's all on Lynn. W's and L's is where pretty much where everybody's job lies upon over the next six months. I was speaking to if the comms staff hadn’t trained him on how to talk with the media. (But I’m sure they tried.) |
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 20, 2020 10:05:04 GMT -7
That is a pretty firm rule, but I have to believe that Lynn has some pretty strong feelings regarding what has become a worldwide movement given that he had gone through the same experiences multiple times while growing up in Texas. He explained the context of the sound bite, but of course that was not any part of what was amplified on any of the sports networks. Now he has to live with it, but it doesn't really matter regarding his job security: that all rests on the W's and L's in 2020. When Lynn became a coach he crossed over the line into club operations, and as such the rule of thumb is never do anything to hurt the club, regardless of personal feelings. I get he might have very strong beliefs on this, but he needs to check those beliefs away. I can hear the clamor now, but reality is the club comes first, always. When Kaepernick chose to hijack the NFL's platform for his protest, the NFL was ill prepared on how to handle it, being that it came from a player. Regardless of the virtues of Kaps motivations, just look at the damage that has been done to the NFL, and continues to be done. That is a pretty fine line to walk in this instance. Anyone with a level head, including the players, would know the subject was about Covid 19 and how it could affect teams, then throw in the protest... It was a simple generic statement that any team would do its diligence to make sure they were prepared if the worse happens. I'm sure as McRugby said, what will matter is W's and L's.
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Post by moekid on Jun 20, 2020 10:32:58 GMT -7
That is a pretty firm rule, but I have to believe that Lynn has some pretty strong feelings regarding what has become a worldwide movement given that he had gone through the same experiences multiple times while growing up in Texas. He explained the context of the sound bite, but of course that was not any part of what was amplified on any of the sports networks. Now he has to live with it, but it doesn't really matter regarding his job security: that all rests on the W's and L's in 2020. While I agree the media took Lynn's comments and made them into much more than what Lynn meant, this is the perfect example of why the 'talk about our players only' rule exists, and Lynn should be well aware of this. When Lynn became a coach he crossed over the line into club operations, and as such the rule of thumb is never do anything to hurt the club, regardless of personal feelings. I get he might have very strong beliefs on this, but he needs to check those beliefs away. I can hear the clamor now, but reality is the club comes first, always. When Kaepernick chose to hijack the NFL's platform for his protest, the NFL was ill prepared on how to handle it, being that it came from a player. Regardless of the virtues of Kaps motivations, just look at the damage that has been done to the NFL, and continues to be done. Nothing Lynn said “hurts the club”. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 21, 2020 3:29:50 GMT -7
While I agree the media took Lynn's comments and made them into much more than what Lynn meant, this is the perfect example of why the 'talk about our players only' rule exists, and Lynn should be well aware of this. When Lynn became a coach he crossed over the line into club operations, and as such the rule of thumb is never do anything to hurt the club, regardless of personal feelings. I get he might have very strong beliefs on this, but he needs to check those beliefs away. I can hear the clamor now, but reality is the club comes first, always. When Kaepernick chose to hijack the NFL's platform for his protest, the NFL was ill prepared on how to handle it, being that it came from a player. Regardless of the virtues of Kaps motivations, just look at the damage that has been done to the NFL, and continues to be done. Nothing Lynn said “hurts the club”. I like the "damage to the NFL" part even better. You know, the billions upon billions worth of NFL. They had to do their draft virtually this year, and it was their biggest draft event EVER. Oh, the "damage that's been done !!" I laugh.
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Post by jefa on Jun 25, 2020 19:10:14 GMT -7
Concur. Very—strange—messaging that puts the team in between a rock and a hard place. Not ideal. And a bad look for a coach without much success or reason for optimism in a make or break year. /agreed Wasn't very smart of Lynn even though his intentions were seemingly taken out of context. He has no business discussing QB changes on this team IMVHO, talk about the players you have now. This may very well add fuel to a HARDKNOCKS fire... Aren't we on Hardknocks this year? Would be perfect drama for that "show" if you ask me... If they sign that guy I am ****ing done with this team... well at least for while he is on it.
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Post by chopper31 on Jun 26, 2020 4:43:46 GMT -7
Kap’s activism may very well be looked at in a different light, by many people now.
But that’s not reason enough to give a guy a roster spot on a Pro Sports team...
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 26, 2020 6:50:06 GMT -7
While I agree the media took Lynn's comments and made them into much more than what Lynn meant, this is the perfect example of why the 'talk about our players only' rule exists, and Lynn should be well aware of this. When Lynn became a coach he crossed over the line into club operations, and as such the rule of thumb is never do anything to hurt the club, regardless of personal feelings. I get he might have very strong beliefs on this, but he needs to check those beliefs away. I can hear the clamor now, but reality is the club comes first, always. When Kaepernick chose to hijack the NFL's platform for his protest, the NFL was ill prepared on how to handle it, being that it came from a player. Regardless of the virtues of Kaps motivations, just look at the damage that has been done to the NFL, and continues to be done. Nothing Lynn said “hurts the club”. I was speaking in a more general fashion. In this particular instance, I would call Lynn's comments a simple 'distraction' as opposed to 'hurting the club'.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 26, 2020 6:52:46 GMT -7
Nothing Lynn said “hurts the club”. I like the "damage to the NFL" part even better. You know, the billions upon billions worth of NFL. They had to do their draft virtually this year, and it was their biggest draft event EVER. Oh, the "damage that's been done !!" I laugh. Clearly you cannot believe the 'take a knee' protest has not hurt the NFL, you simply are not that ignorant. Just take a peek at Jefa's post right below your post I am quoting.......Jefa is far from alone in his view.
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Post by moekid on Jun 27, 2020 11:54:05 GMT -7
I like the "damage to the NFL" part even better. You know, the billions upon billions worth of NFL. They had to do their draft virtually this year, and it was their biggest draft event EVER. Oh, the "damage that's been done !!" I laugh. Clearly you cannot believe the 'take a knee' protest has not hurt the NFL, you simply are not that ignorant. Just take a peek at Jefa's post right below your post I am quoting.......Jefa is far from alone in his view. There was a brief dip during the Kap kneeling era due to ill informed Americans following the signals of an uninformed President. No lasting damage and the NFL came back and is as big as ever. It’s incumbent on Jefa and others with his views to educate themselves. Not for the NFL to pander to, or accommodate, them. |
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Post by afboltfan on Jun 27, 2020 12:43:36 GMT -7
Clearly you cannot believe the 'take a knee' protest has not hurt the NFL, you simply are not that ignorant. Just take a peek at Jefa's post right below your post I am quoting.......Jefa is far from alone in his view. There was a brief dip during the Kap kneeling era due to ill informed Americans following the signals of an uninformed President. No lasting damage and the NFL came back and is as big as ever. It’s incumbent on Jefa and others with his views to educate themselves. Not for the NFL to pander to, or accommodate, them. That's a myopic view for someone accusing someone else of a myopic view. Many, myself included have always felt that Kaepernick's "activism" is misplaced and the negative attention has nothing to do with Trump. Kap was benched week 8 of 2015, knelt for the anthem the last week of preseason 2016... IMHO this was a tantrum that turned into something bigger... He did this prior to and received huge criticism before Trump was ever elected. I think people will watch, especially fans... The NFL isn't worried about a few stubborn outliers, its too big. Nascar on the other hand... 99.9% of their audience is white male rednecks.
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Post by moekid on Jun 27, 2020 13:03:44 GMT -7
There was a brief dip during the Kap kneeling era due to ill informed Americans following the signals of an uninformed President. No lasting damage and the NFL came back and is as big as ever. It’s incumbent on Jefa and others with his views to educate themselves. Not for the NFL to pander to, or accommodate, them. That's a myopic view for someone accusing someone else of a myopic view. Many, myself included have always felt that Kaepernick's "activism" is misplaced and the negative attention has nothing to do with Trump. Kap was benched week 8 of 2015, knelt for the anthem the last week of preseason 2016... IMHO this was a tantrum that turned into something bigger... He did this prior to and received huge criticism before Trump was ever elected. I think people will watch, especially fans... The NFL isn't worried about a few stubborn outliers, its too big. Nascar on the other hand... 99.9% of their audience is white male rednecks. True about the timing but it was amplified after Trump was elected and starting calling players sons of bitches. Saying they should be fired and Mike Pence walking out of a game because a player kneeled. They were actively calling for the NFL to be boycotted. I hardly think it was a “tantrum”. What a condescending view of an issue of importance. |
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 27, 2020 17:04:15 GMT -7
Clearly you cannot believe the 'take a knee' protest has not hurt the NFL, you simply are not that ignorant. Just take a peek at Jefa's post right below your post I am quoting.......Jefa is far from alone in his view. There was a brief dip during the Kap kneeling era due to ill informed Americans following the signals of an uninformed President. No lasting damage and the NFL came back and is as big as ever. It’s incumbent on Jefa and others with his views to educate themselves. Not for the NFL to pander to, or accommodate, them. Revenue was lost, league image tarnished somewhat in a narrow segment......and it continues. Big damage one might ask, not at this point, but it does have the league's attention. Will the issue drive a wedge into the pie as it continues to grow, perhaps.....but it is undeniably contentious at this point. The NFL panders to any and all it feels it needs to continue growing the revenue, to think otherwise is misguided.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 28, 2020 4:18:35 GMT -7
There was a brief dip during the Kap kneeling era due to ill informed Americans following the signals of an uninformed President. No lasting damage and the NFL came back and is as big as ever. It’s incumbent on Jefa and others with his views to educate themselves. Not for the NFL to pander to, or accommodate, them. Revenue was lost, league image tarnished somewhat in a narrow segment......and it continues. Big damage one might ask, not at this point, but it does have the league's attention. Will the issue drive a wedge into the pie as it continues to grow, perhaps.....but it is undeniably contentious at this point. The NFL panders to any and all it feels it needs to continue growing the revenue, to think otherwise is misguided. That is correct. Roger is a product of the Empire. If it meant more revenue I would have an expansion team named the Ghana Gators. My moat gators are politically correct. They will eat your ass if you are normal, or from Canada. They don't care.
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