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Post by moekid on Jul 30, 2020 18:08:59 GMT -7
Telesco identified Joey Bosa as THE core piece,and got the deal finalized. We are close to the goal. Holes are fewer and far between. The spotlight is now on Keenan...and Campen. Hell of a job Telesco ! #woodeyeunmasked  If you had to cut one, who would it be ? Joey Bosa or Derwin James ? How's THE core piece coming now ? REACT AS I MAKE EVERYONE'S BRAIN CELLS FRY MAKING THEM THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤯🤯 |
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 31, 2020 5:48:48 GMT -7
If you had to cut one, who would it be ? Joey Bosa or Derwin James ? How's THE core piece coming now ? REACT AS I MAKE EVERYONE'S BRAIN CELLS FRY MAKING THEM THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤯🤯 Nominated Post of July.
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 1, 2020 11:55:51 GMT -7
The breakdown.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 2, 2020 3:45:30 GMT -7
Sweet Mother of Pearl !! Those are top QB numbers. If he's in a jet ski collision with a battleship, he's staying on the roster even if its in full body cast and traction. Joe, are we just screwed to hell if they LOWER the Cap team number next year because of plague impact ?
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 2, 2020 11:31:46 GMT -7
Sweet Mother of Pearl !! Those are top QB numbers. If he's in a jet ski collision with a battleship, he's staying on the roster even if its in full body cast and traction. Joe, are we just screwed to hell if they LOWER the Cap team number next year because of plague impact ? Top QB contracts are $35 million+. Freaking Dak Prescott turned up his nose and walked away from Jerruh's $175 million 5-year offer. Dak Freaking Prescott!! The increase for top pass rushing DE's has now moved from $21 to $25 million. Check out the Demarcus Lawrence contract that was signed in 2019: www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/demarcus-lawrence-14443/Welcome to the world of the new normal now that the new CBA has been adopted. Once the COVID-19 settles over the next year (fingers crossed) and the new television contracts are signed, the salary cap is going to explode. That's why you saw the recent Mahomes & Jones contracts, and why you'll be seeing Bosa's contract for DE's surpassed over the next year. As a bonus: the Chargers still have 2020 cap space to get the KA extension done before the season starts as the franchise opens a 4-year window (minimum) of having a rookie QB contract on the payroll. Hopefully they can reap the benefits like the Seahawks, Chiefs, and other franchises have during this opportunity.
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Post by totallybolted on Aug 2, 2020 14:03:15 GMT -7
Sweet Mother of Pearl !! Those are top QB numbers. If he's in a jet ski collision with a battleship, he's staying on the roster even if its in full body cast and traction. Joe, are we just screwed to hell if they LOWER the Cap team number next year because of plague impact ? Top QB contracts are $35 million+. Freaking Dak Prescott turned up his nose and walked away from Jerruh's $175 million 5-year offer. Dak Freaking Prescott!! The increase for top pass rushing DE's has now moved from $21 to $25 million. Check out the Demarcus Lawrence contract that was signed in 2019: www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/demarcus-lawrence-14443/Welcome to the world of the new normal now that the new CBA has been adopted. Once the COVID-19 settles over the next year (fingers crossed) and the new television contracts are signed, the salary cap is going to explode. That's why you saw the recent Mahomes & Jones contracts, and why you'll be seeing Bosa's contract for DE's surpassed over the next year. As a bonus: the Chargers still have 2020 cap space to get the KA extension done before the season starts as the franchise opens a 4-year window (minimum) of having a rookie QB contract on the payroll. Hopefully they can reap the benefits like the Seahawks, Chiefs, and other franchises have during this opportunity. Exactly what I wanted back in the PR contract question. It was time to move on and having the benefit of being able to retain top talent and get more of it is perfect
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 3, 2020 6:46:32 GMT -7
Sweet Mother of Pearl !! Those are top QB numbers. If he's in a jet ski collision with a battleship, he's staying on the roster even if its in full body cast and traction. Joe, are we just screwed to hell if they LOWER the Cap team number next year because of plague impact ? Top QB contracts are $35 million+. Freaking Dak Prescott turned up his nose and walked away from Jerruh's $175 million 5-year offer. Dak Freaking Prescott!! The increase for top pass rushing DE's has now moved from $21 to $25 million. Check out the Demarcus Lawrence contract that was signed in 2019: www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/demarcus-lawrence-14443/Welcome to the world of the new normal now that the new CBA has been adopted. Once the COVID-19 settles over the next year (fingers crossed) and the new television contracts are signed, the salary cap is going to explode. That's why you saw the recent Mahomes & Jones contracts, and why you'll be seeing Bosa's contract for DE's surpassed over the next year. As a bonus: the Chargers still have 2020 cap space to get the KA extension done before the season starts as the franchise opens a 4-year window (minimum) of having a rookie QB contract on the payroll. Hopefully they can reap the benefits like the Seahawks, Chiefs, and other franchises have during this opportunity. I think they will get Allen signed before the season starts. I thought I read the cap may take a dive for next season because of covid. My mistake. The NFL and the NFL Players Association came to a new collective bargaining agreement that would potentially shrink the salary cap in 2021 for the first time since 2011. The two parties agreed to the deal as a response to the coronavirus pandemic. And though the NFL decided to have a salary cap of $198.2 million for 2020 (as a part of a previously CBA), the league has a salary cap floor of $175 million for 2021, a number which would put 15 teams over the cap at this point. It would be a staggering drop from what was previously projected to be $215 million. The NFL has a strong history of raising the salary cap, which is why teams build their rosters with the assumption that business will only continue to get better. That assumption is, of course, fraught amid the pandemic.
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 3, 2020 11:29:43 GMT -7
Top QB contracts are $35 million+. Freaking Dak Prescott turned up his nose and walked away from Jerruh's $175 million 5-year offer. Dak Freaking Prescott!! The increase for top pass rushing DE's has now moved from $21 to $25 million. Check out the Demarcus Lawrence contract that was signed in 2019: www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/demarcus-lawrence-14443/Welcome to the world of the new normal now that the new CBA has been adopted. Once the COVID-19 settles over the next year (fingers crossed) and the new television contracts are signed, the salary cap is going to explode. That's why you saw the recent Mahomes & Jones contracts, and why you'll be seeing Bosa's contract for DE's surpassed over the next year. As a bonus: the Chargers still have 2020 cap space to get the KA extension done before the season starts as the franchise opens a 4-year window (minimum) of having a rookie QB contract on the payroll. Hopefully they can reap the benefits like the Seahawks, Chiefs, and other franchises have during this opportunity. I think they will get Allen signed before the season starts. I thought I read the cap may take a dive for next season because of covid. My mistake. The NFL and the NFL Players Association came to a new collective bargaining agreement that would potentially shrink the salary cap in 2021 for the first time since 2011. The two parties agreed to the deal as a response to the coronavirus pandemic. And though the NFL decided to have a salary cap of $198.2 million for 2020 (as a part of a previously CBA), the league has a salary cap floor of $175 million for 2021, a number which would put 15 teams over the cap at this point. It would be a staggering drop from what was previously projected to be $215 million. The NFL has a strong history of raising the salary cap, which is why teams build their rosters with the assumption that business will only continue to get better. That assumption is, of course, fraught amid the pandemic. This will be a minor short-term shrinkage (2021), the effect of which will spread the effect of over several seasons. I would have to think that serious television contract discussions will be pushed off until the pandemic subsides, so I anticipate that the salary cap skyrocketing will be delayed until the 2022 season, and Bosa's contract won't start really accelerating until 2022. Like you, I expect a KA deal to be reached before the start of the 2020 season. I'd be shocked if McGuire and TT hadn't accounted for the COVID-factor, and I don't believe that it will hinder them extending cornerstone pieces of the franchise over the next four seasons (i.e., Derwin James). Now it is time to hope/pray that NFL players have more sense than the MLB players have shown so that the 2020 season can commence as scheduled!
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 3, 2020 13:22:24 GMT -7
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 5, 2020 21:52:51 GMT -7
Analyzing the Chargers’ 2021 salary cap situation after Joey Bosa’s extension Daniel Popper The Athletic Two major developments in the last two weeks have lent clarity to the Chargers’ 2021 salary-cap situation. First, the NFL and the players association agreed to a 2021 cap floor of $175 million. That means the cap cannot drop below $175 million next season. For reference, the 2020 cap was $198.2 million. And before the pandemic, teams were expecting that number to jump significantly — most projections had it around $215 million, largely due to the new TV contracts that were being negotiated. But revenue is going to decrease this year because there will be almost assuredly no fans in most stadiums. The TV deal negotiations, meanwhile, stalled when the pandemic began. Thus the projected fall in the cap ceiling. Uncertainty remains surrounding just how much revenue will be lost, and that ultimately will dictate where the 2021 cap officially ends up. The floor, though, gives teams a benchmark they did not have previously. Second, the Chargers signed Joey Bosa to an extension, reportedly for five years and $135 million, crossing off the most pressing item on their salary-cap to-do list. The new contract replaces the fifth-year option Bosa was originally going to play under in 2020, so it actually covers six seasons from 2020 to 2025. Pro Football Talk got the full details of the deal, and Over The Cap broke it down into specifics on a yearly basis. Bosa reportedly received a $35 million signing bonus that, for salary-cap purposes, will be prorated over the next five seasons — so a $7 million charge in each year from 2020 to 2024. (The maximum number of years for proration is five; that’s why there is no signing bonus figure in 2025, the sixth year of the deal.) Bosa’s cap hit on the fifth-year option was $14.36 million, so there is a negligible difference between that and the 2020 cap hit on his new deal — exactly $666,400. The major cap hits start in 2021. With those two pressing questions now answered, we can dive a little deeper into what the Chargers’ cap health will look like next offseason. A lot still depends on what the salary cap is, but knowing it will not drop below $175 million does allow us to make some determinations. This is how general manager Tom Telesco assessed his cap health before training camp started: “We’re set up pretty well moving into the future, even though we do have players that we still would like to extend. But we feel like just cap-wise, this team is set up pretty well as we move into 2021 and 2022. It’s not what anybody in this building, except for me and a couple other of us, should be focused on. We’ve got to be focused on getting ready to play right now. But obviously as you build the team, you have to look short-term (and) long-term. I think we’re set up fine moving into the future. Even if by chance the cap is lower than we thought and it’s closer to 175 (million dollars), we’re going to be just fine and be able to do what we want to do. I’m not scared of that right now.” The key here is what Telesco refers to as “players that we still would like to extend.” Addressing the Chargers’ 2021 cap sheet means addressing the long list of players, many of them starters, who are set to become unrestricted free agents in March. The group includes: DE Melvin Ingram WR Keenan Allen TE Hunter Henry C Mike Pouncey LB Denzel Perryman QB Tyrod Taylor S Rayshawn Jenkins CB Michael Davis CB Desmond King OL Dan Feeney OL Forrest Lamp As of now, if all those players come off the books, the Chargers are looking at just about $140 million in cap liabilities for 2021, according to Over The Cap. With a $175 million salary cap, that would give the Chargers $35 million in space — not factoring in 2021 rookie and potential rollover space — in an absolute worst-case scenario, assuming they don’t get any extensions done before this season starts, which is no sure thing. Looking at those figures, you can begin to understand Telesco’s comments and why he’s feeling comfortable. He has a lot of flexibility in how he can build this roster for 2021, even with Bosa’s big deal. The Chargers are hopeful Justin Herbert will be ready to start at quarterback in 2021, and having a starting QB on a rookie deal is the easiest and best way to create flexibility. Based on how Telesco operates, it is safe to speculate that he will prioritize extending his homegrown players before seeking external free agents. Melvin Gordon’s contract dispute is the outlier for this organization under Telesco’s leadership. In general, Telesco signs drafted players who develop into quality starters and contributors. Ingram, Allen and Perryman are examples. You can add Bosa to that list now. And Derwin James will join soon enough — but he’s only on the third year of his rookie deal, so I wouldn’t expect an extension to get done until the 2021 offseason at the very earliest. How will Telesco prioritize all these players? That is really the looming question when it comes to the Chargers’ 2021 cap sheet. Allen and Henry should be 1A and 1B. I wouldn’t rule out Allen getting his extension sometime this month before the start of the season. He has produced at a high enough level to command an extension in the range of $16 million to $18 million in average annual value (AAV). The Chargers can afford that and want to keep their stud receiver around. Henry, who is playing on a franchise tag this season, can no longer sign an extension this year because the deadline for tagged players passed on July 15. So while Allen might get his extension done before the regular season starts, Henry will have to wait until next offseason. Depending on how he plays this year, Henry could be in line for an extension in the range of $9 million to $11 million in AAV. The third priority would be Rayshawn Jenkins, as long as he continues to develop as a free safety in his fourth NFL season. He won’t command top-of-the-market safety money — which is $14-plus million AAV, set by the Bears’ Eddie Jackson — but I could see him settling in the $7 million to $9 million range if he continues his trajectory. Beyond that, things get a little murkier. If Pouncey proves he is healthy this season after missing most of 2019 with a neck injury, the Chargers could opt to re-sign him. Or they could let him walk, re-sign Feeney as their starting center and re-sign Lamp — or turn to Trent Scott — as their other starting guard. If King returns to All-Pro form this season, he will have a sizable market if he hits unrestricted free agency. King should get some looks at outside corner during training camp this month, but he is primarily a slot/nickel corner and presumably will be paid as such. Justin Coleman set that market last offseason with his $9 million AAV contract with the Lions. I doubt the Chargers would be willing to pay King that much considering they signed Chris Harris Jr. this offseason and have other players, such as 2019 second-round pick Nasir Adderley, who they believe can play in the slot. The Chargers will have plenty of decisions to make. But the main takeaway is this: While most NFL teams are stressing over the new cap realities of the COVID-19 economy, Telesco has set up the Chargers to emerge healthy, flexible and in position to build a Super Bowl contender. theathletic.com/1976988/2020/08/05/analyzing-the-chargers-2021-salary-cap-situation-after-joey-bosas-extension/ |
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 6, 2020 3:06:29 GMT -7
Analyzing the Chargers’ 2021 salary cap situation after Joey Bosa’s extension Daniel Popper The Athletic Two major developments in the last two weeks have lent clarity to the Chargers’ 2021 salary-cap situation. First, the NFL and the players association agreed to a 2021 cap floor of $175 million. That means the cap cannot drop below $175 million next season. For reference, the 2020 cap was $198.2 million. And before the pandemic, teams were expecting that number to jump significantly — most projections had it around $215 million, largely due to the new TV contracts that were being negotiated. But revenue is going to decrease this year because there will be almost assuredly no fans in most stadiums. The TV deal negotiations, meanwhile, stalled when the pandemic began. Thus the projected fall in the cap ceiling. Uncertainty remains surrounding just how much revenue will be lost, and that ultimately will dictate where the 2021 cap officially ends up. The floor, though, gives teams a benchmark they did not have previously. Second, the Chargers signed Joey Bosa to an extension, reportedly for five years and $135 million, crossing off the most pressing item on their salary-cap to-do list. The new contract replaces the fifth-year option Bosa was originally going to play under in 2020, so it actually covers six seasons from 2020 to 2025. Pro Football Talk got the full details of the deal, and Over The Cap broke it down into specifics on a yearly basis. Bosa reportedly received a $35 million signing bonus that, for salary-cap purposes, will be prorated over the next five seasons — so a $7 million charge in each year from 2020 to 2024. (The maximum number of years for proration is five; that’s why there is no signing bonus figure in 2025, the sixth year of the deal.) Bosa’s cap hit on the fifth-year option was $14.36 million, so there is a negligible difference between that and the 2020 cap hit on his new deal — exactly $666,400. The major cap hits start in 2021. With those two pressing questions now answered, we can dive a little deeper into what the Chargers’ cap health will look like next offseason. A lot still depends on what the salary cap is, but knowing it will not drop below $175 million does allow us to make some determinations. This is how general manager Tom Telesco assessed his cap health before training camp started: “We’re set up pretty well moving into the future, even though we do have players that we still would like to extend. But we feel like just cap-wise, this team is set up pretty well as we move into 2021 and 2022. It’s not what anybody in this building, except for me and a couple other of us, should be focused on. We’ve got to be focused on getting ready to play right now. But obviously as you build the team, you have to look short-term (and) long-term. I think we’re set up fine moving into the future. Even if by chance the cap is lower than we thought and it’s closer to 175 (million dollars), we’re going to be just fine and be able to do what we want to do. I’m not scared of that right now.” The key here is what Telesco refers to as “players that we still would like to extend.” Addressing the Chargers’ 2021 cap sheet means addressing the long list of players, many of them starters, who are set to become unrestricted free agents in March. The group includes: DE Melvin Ingram WR Keenan Allen TE Hunter Henry C Mike Pouncey LB Denzel Perryman QB Tyrod Taylor S Rayshawn Jenkins CB Michael Davis CB Desmond King OL Dan Feeney OL Forrest Lamp As of now, if all those players come off the books, the Chargers are looking at just about $140 million in cap liabilities for 2021, according to Over The Cap. With a $175 million salary cap, that would give the Chargers $35 million in space — not factoring in 2021 rookie and potential rollover space — in an absolute worst-case scenario, assuming they don’t get any extensions done before this season starts, which is no sure thing. Looking at those figures, you can begin to understand Telesco’s comments and why he’s feeling comfortable. He has a lot of flexibility in how he can build this roster for 2021, even with Bosa’s big deal. The Chargers are hopeful Justin Herbert will be ready to start at quarterback in 2021, and having a starting QB on a rookie deal is the easiest and best way to create flexibility. Based on how Telesco operates, it is safe to speculate that he will prioritize extending his homegrown players before seeking external free agents. Melvin Gordon’s contract dispute is the outlier for this organization under Telesco’s leadership. In general, Telesco signs drafted players who develop into quality starters and contributors. Ingram, Allen and Perryman are examples. You can add Bosa to that list now. And Derwin James will join soon enough — but he’s only on the third year of his rookie deal, so I wouldn’t expect an extension to get done until the 2021 offseason at the very earliest. How will Telesco prioritize all these players? That is really the looming question when it comes to the Chargers’ 2021 cap sheet. Allen and Henry should be 1A and 1B. I wouldn’t rule out Allen getting his extension sometime this month before the start of the season. He has produced at a high enough level to command an extension in the range of $16 million to $18 million in average annual value (AAV). The Chargers can afford that and want to keep their stud receiver around. Henry, who is playing on a franchise tag this season, can no longer sign an extension this year because the deadline for tagged players passed on July 15. So while Allen might get his extension done before the regular season starts, Henry will have to wait until next offseason. Depending on how he plays this year, Henry could be in line for an extension in the range of $9 million to $11 million in AAV. The third priority would be Rayshawn Jenkins, as long as he continues to develop as a free safety in his fourth NFL season. He won’t command top-of-the-market safety money — which is $14-plus million AAV, set by the Bears’ Eddie Jackson — but I could see him settling in the $7 million to $9 million range if he continues his trajectory. Beyond that, things get a little murkier. If Pouncey proves he is healthy this season after missing most of 2019 with a neck injury, the Chargers could opt to re-sign him. Or they could let him walk, re-sign Feeney as their starting center and re-sign Lamp — or turn to Trent Scott — as their other starting guard. If King returns to All-Pro form this season, he will have a sizable market if he hits unrestricted free agency. King should get some looks at outside corner during training camp this month, but he is primarily a slot/nickel corner and presumably will be paid as such. Justin Coleman set that market last offseason with his $9 million AAV contract with the Lions. I doubt the Chargers would be willing to pay King that much considering they signed Chris Harris Jr. this offseason and have other players, such as 2019 second-round pick Nasir Adderley, who they believe can play in the slot. The Chargers will have plenty of decisions to make. But the main takeaway is this: While most NFL teams are stressing over the new cap realities of the COVID-19 economy, Telesco has set up the Chargers to emerge healthy, flexible and in position to build a Super Bowl contender. theathletic.com/1976988/2020/08/05/analyzing-the-chargers-2021-salary-cap-situation-after-joey-bosas-extension/I have so many problems here I don't know where to start....................maybe I'll start where Pooper never did start. Did he have his coffee cup on the list when he typed this and the cup was covering up the name Melvin Ingram ?? Did I miss it, or did he not even mention him when he was touching on REPLACING POUNCEY WITH FEENEY AS OUR STARTING CENTER WHILE RE-SIGNING LAMP TOO ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! OY VEY !!!!! Is he getting cute, are the Chargers getting cute, or have the Chargers tricked him ? King, one of the better slot CB's in the league will now be a wideout CB, and Adderley -who we drafted as our young safety to build a tandem with James-can move to slot CB......................what in the living hell is THAT ?!?!?!?!?! They have a talent load problem in the secondary. Its a great problem to have. BUT, you have to figure it out. King seems to be the "problem". He's a good slot CB, and then we signed a great slot CB. Harris Jr. and King both demand to be on the field. So they are trying to figure out how to have them both out there. The pain in the ass is Number 2 CB. I'm telling you, trust me. The best secondary in the NFL, but they are worried about Number 2 CB. I am too. We are loaded with safeties and slot CB's. NOT wide out CB's. So someone has to convert. Michael Davis is supposed to be it. Is he healed ? Do they like him there ? Do they trust him there ? Where is his true there on a depth chart ? Starter, or back up ? There are more talented players you want on the field, but Number 2 CB is his home, not theirs. Its a fascinating problem. I don't see Jenkins as a problem. I like Jenkins. But if money is going to be a problem when the time comes, Adderley is supposed to be the starter there anyway. I think he is jumping the gun here. You have to let this season play out in order to know where you are at for next season's re-signings/releases.
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 6, 2020 10:28:52 GMT -7
Analyzing the Chargers’ 2021 salary cap situation after Joey Bosa’s extension Daniel Popper The Athletic Two major developments in the last two weeks have lent clarity to the Chargers’ 2021 salary-cap situation. First, the NFL and the players association agreed to a 2021 cap floor of $175 million. That means the cap cannot drop below $175 million next season. For reference, the 2020 cap was $198.2 million. And before the pandemic, teams were expecting that number to jump significantly — most projections had it around $215 million, largely due to the new TV contracts that were being negotiated. But revenue is going to decrease this year because there will be almost assuredly no fans in most stadiums. The TV deal negotiations, meanwhile, stalled when the pandemic began. Thus the projected fall in the cap ceiling. Uncertainty remains surrounding just how much revenue will be lost, and that ultimately will dictate where the 2021 cap officially ends up. The floor, though, gives teams a benchmark they did not have previously. Second, the Chargers signed Joey Bosa to an extension, reportedly for five years and $135 million, crossing off the most pressing item on their salary-cap to-do list. The new contract replaces the fifth-year option Bosa was originally going to play under in 2020, so it actually covers six seasons from 2020 to 2025. Pro Football Talk got the full details of the deal, and Over The Cap broke it down into specifics on a yearly basis. Bosa reportedly received a $35 million signing bonus that, for salary-cap purposes, will be prorated over the next five seasons — so a $7 million charge in each year from 2020 to 2024. (The maximum number of years for proration is five; that’s why there is no signing bonus figure in 2025, the sixth year of the deal.) Bosa’s cap hit on the fifth-year option was $14.36 million, so there is a negligible difference between that and the 2020 cap hit on his new deal — exactly $666,400. The major cap hits start in 2021. With those two pressing questions now answered, we can dive a little deeper into what the Chargers’ cap health will look like next offseason. A lot still depends on what the salary cap is, but knowing it will not drop below $175 million does allow us to make some determinations. This is how general manager Tom Telesco assessed his cap health before training camp started: “We’re set up pretty well moving into the future, even though we do have players that we still would like to extend. But we feel like just cap-wise, this team is set up pretty well as we move into 2021 and 2022. It’s not what anybody in this building, except for me and a couple other of us, should be focused on. We’ve got to be focused on getting ready to play right now. But obviously as you build the team, you have to look short-term (and) long-term. I think we’re set up fine moving into the future. Even if by chance the cap is lower than we thought and it’s closer to 175 (million dollars), we’re going to be just fine and be able to do what we want to do. I’m not scared of that right now.” The key here is what Telesco refers to as “players that we still would like to extend.” Addressing the Chargers’ 2021 cap sheet means addressing the long list of players, many of them starters, who are set to become unrestricted free agents in March. The group includes: DE Melvin Ingram WR Keenan Allen TE Hunter Henry C Mike Pouncey LB Denzel Perryman QB Tyrod Taylor S Rayshawn Jenkins CB Michael Davis CB Desmond King OL Dan Feeney OL Forrest Lamp As of now, if all those players come off the books, the Chargers are looking at just about $140 million in cap liabilities for 2021, according to Over The Cap. With a $175 million salary cap, that would give the Chargers $35 million in space — not factoring in 2021 rookie and potential rollover space — in an absolute worst-case scenario, assuming they don’t get any extensions done before this season starts, which is no sure thing. Looking at those figures, you can begin to understand Telesco’s comments and why he’s feeling comfortable. He has a lot of flexibility in how he can build this roster for 2021, even with Bosa’s big deal. The Chargers are hopeful Justin Herbert will be ready to start at quarterback in 2021, and having a starting QB on a rookie deal is the easiest and best way to create flexibility. Based on how Telesco operates, it is safe to speculate that he will prioritize extending his homegrown players before seeking external free agents. Melvin Gordon’s contract dispute is the outlier for this organization under Telesco’s leadership. In general, Telesco signs drafted players who develop into quality starters and contributors. Ingram, Allen and Perryman are examples. You can add Bosa to that list now. And Derwin James will join soon enough — but he’s only on the third year of his rookie deal, so I wouldn’t expect an extension to get done until the 2021 offseason at the very earliest. How will Telesco prioritize all these players? That is really the looming question when it comes to the Chargers’ 2021 cap sheet. Allen and Henry should be 1A and 1B. I wouldn’t rule out Allen getting his extension sometime this month before the start of the season. He has produced at a high enough level to command an extension in the range of $16 million to $18 million in average annual value (AAV). The Chargers can afford that and want to keep their stud receiver around. Henry, who is playing on a franchise tag this season, can no longer sign an extension this year because the deadline for tagged players passed on July 15. So while Allen might get his extension done before the regular season starts, Henry will have to wait until next offseason. Depending on how he plays this year, Henry could be in line for an extension in the range of $9 million to $11 million in AAV. The third priority would be Rayshawn Jenkins, as long as he continues to develop as a free safety in his fourth NFL season. He won’t command top-of-the-market safety money — which is $14-plus million AAV, set by the Bears’ Eddie Jackson — but I could see him settling in the $7 million to $9 million range if he continues his trajectory. Beyond that, things get a little murkier. If Pouncey proves he is healthy this season after missing most of 2019 with a neck injury, the Chargers could opt to re-sign him. Or they could let him walk, re-sign Feeney as their starting center and re-sign Lamp — or turn to Trent Scott — as their other starting guard. If King returns to All-Pro form this season, he will have a sizable market if he hits unrestricted free agency. King should get some looks at outside corner during training camp this month, but he is primarily a slot/nickel corner and presumably will be paid as such. Justin Coleman set that market last offseason with his $9 million AAV contract with the Lions. I doubt the Chargers would be willing to pay King that much considering they signed Chris Harris Jr. this offseason and have other players, such as 2019 second-round pick Nasir Adderley, who they believe can play in the slot. The Chargers will have plenty of decisions to make. But the main takeaway is this: While most NFL teams are stressing over the new cap realities of the COVID-19 economy, Telesco has set up the Chargers to emerge healthy, flexible and in position to build a Super Bowl contender. theathletic.com/1976988/2020/08/05/analyzing-the-chargers-2021-salary-cap-situation-after-joey-bosas-extension/I have so many problems here I don't know where to start....................maybe I'll start where Pooper never did start. Did he have his coffee cup on the list when he typed this and the cup was covering up the name Melvin Ingram ?? Did I miss it, or did he not even mention him when he was touching on REPLACING POUNCEY WITH FEENEY AS OUR STARTING CENTER WHILE RE-SIGNING LAMP TOO ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! OY VEY !!!!! Is he getting cute, are the Chargers getting cute, or have the Chargers tricked him ? King, one of the better slot CB's in the league will now be a wideout CB, and Adderley -who we drafted as our young safety to build a tandem with James-can move to slot CB......................what in the living hell is THAT ?!?!?!?!?! They have a talent load problem in the secondary. Its a great problem to have. BUT, you have to figure it out. King seems to be the "problem". He's a good slot CB, and then we signed a great slot CB. Harris Jr. and King both demand to be on the field. So they are trying to figure out how to have them both out there. The pain in the ass is Number 2 CB. I'm telling you, trust me. The best secondary in the NFL, but they are worried about Number 2 CB. I am too. We are loaded with safeties and slot CB's. NOT wide out CB's. So someone has to convert. Michael Davis is supposed to be it. Is he healed ? Do they like him there ? Do they trust him there ? Where is his true there on a depth chart ? Starter, or back up ? There are more talented players you want on the field, but Number 2 CB is his home, not theirs. Its a fascinating problem. I don't see Jenkins as a problem. I like Jenkins. But if money is going to be a problem when the time comes, Adderley is supposed to be the starter there anyway. I think he is jumping the gun here. You have to let this season play out in order to know where you are at for next season's re-signings/releases. Melvin Ingram’s status was the main subject of an article written a week or so ago where Popper sees him as likely moving on after the 2020 season due to the fact that he will be 32 next season and that he will have interest in an open market where the Chargers will be unable to match due to other signing needs, so my guess is that he left Super Mel out of this new lengthy analysis. You are absolutely correct in that nobody will know anything until the 2020 season concludes other than a KA extension in the next few weeks, but it’s an interesting examination of the numerous possibilities due to the money coming off of the books at the conclusion of this season. Bottom line is that the Chargers aren’t hamstrung with contracts where they can’t make moves in 2021, and every other franchise will be in the same boat as the Bolts, and I am willing to bet that Henry’s salary in 2020 under the franchise tag will be significantly higher than his future contract. Expect to see a lot of one-year deals for UFA’s in 2021 with the exception of top-tier FA’s because players aren’t going to want to be locked into multi year deals under the restrictive 2021 cap. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 6, 2020 11:09:57 GMT -7
I have so many problems here I don't know where to start....................maybe I'll start where Pooper never did start. Did he have his coffee cup on the list when he typed this and the cup was covering up the name Melvin Ingram ?? Did I miss it, or did he not even mention him when he was touching on REPLACING POUNCEY WITH FEENEY AS OUR STARTING CENTER WHILE RE-SIGNING LAMP TOO ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! OY VEY !!!!! Is he getting cute, are the Chargers getting cute, or have the Chargers tricked him ? King, one of the better slot CB's in the league will now be a wideout CB, and Adderley -who we drafted as our young safety to build a tandem with James-can move to slot CB......................what in the living hell is THAT ?!?!?!?!?! They have a talent load problem in the secondary. Its a great problem to have. BUT, you have to figure it out. King seems to be the "problem". He's a good slot CB, and then we signed a great slot CB. Harris Jr. and King both demand to be on the field. So they are trying to figure out how to have them both out there. The pain in the ass is Number 2 CB. I'm telling you, trust me. The best secondary in the NFL, but they are worried about Number 2 CB. I am too. We are loaded with safeties and slot CB's. NOT wide out CB's. So someone has to convert. Michael Davis is supposed to be it. Is he healed ? Do they like him there ? Do they trust him there ? Where is his true there on a depth chart ? Starter, or back up ? There are more talented players you want on the field, but Number 2 CB is his home, not theirs. Its a fascinating problem. I don't see Jenkins as a problem. I like Jenkins. But if money is going to be a problem when the time comes, Adderley is supposed to be the starter there anyway. I think he is jumping the gun here. You have to let this season play out in order to know where you are at for next season's re-signings/releases. Melvin Ingram’s status was the main subject of an article written a week or so ago where Popper sees him as likely moving on after the 2020 season due to the fact that he will be 32 next season and that he will have interest in an open market where the Chargers will be unable to match due to other signing needs, so my guess is that he left Super Mel out of this new lengthy analysis. You are absolutely correct in that nobody will know anything until the 2020 season concludes other than a KA extension in the next few weeks, but it’s an interesting examination of the numerous possibilities due to the money coming off of the books at the conclusion of this season. Bottom line is that the Chargers aren’t hamstrung with contracts where they can’t make moves in 2021, and every other franchise will be in the same boat as the Bolts, and I am willing to bet that Henry’s salary in 2020 under the franchise tag will be significantly higher than his future contract. Expect to see a lot of one-year deals for UFA’s in 2021 with the exception of top-tier FA’s because players aren’t going to want to be locked into multi year deals under the restrictive 2021 cap.You ended with a great take there.
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 6, 2020 17:17:22 GMT -7
Melvin Ingram’s status was the main subject of an article written a week or so ago where Popper sees him as likely moving on after the 2020 season due to the fact that he will be 32 next season and that he will have interest in an open market where the Chargers will be unable to match due to other signing needs, so my guess is that he left Super Mel out of this new lengthy analysis. You are absolutely correct in that nobody will know anything until the 2020 season concludes other than a KA extension in the next few weeks, but it’s an interesting examination of the numerous possibilities due to the money coming off of the books at the conclusion of this season. Bottom line is that the Chargers aren’t hamstrung with contracts where they can’t make moves in 2021, and every other franchise will be in the same boat as the Bolts, and I am willing to bet that Henry’s salary in 2020 under the franchise tag will be significantly higher than his future contract. Expect to see a lot of one-year deals for UFA’s in 2021 with the exception of top-tier FA’s because players aren’t going to want to be locked into multi year deals under the restrictive 2021 cap.You ended with a great take there. One other note regarding that last point: when a veteran free agent signs a one-year deal, many times they aren't necessarily looking for whoever offers them the most $$$ unless there is a great disparity; they are looking for a team and situation that can set them up for a big multi-year deal. As we already know, a lot is riding on this season for players and coaches. A solid 2020 may persuade some of the soon-to-be free agents to take less money to stay with a franchise that is set up for success in 2021. 🍺
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 7, 2020 2:18:17 GMT -7
You ended with a great take there. One other note regarding that last point: when a veteran free agent signs a one-year deal, many times they aren't necessarily looking for whoever offers them the most $$$ unless there is a great disparity; they are looking for a team and situation that can set them up for a big multi-year deal. As we already know, a lot is riding on this season for players and coaches. A solid 2020 may persuade some of the soon-to-be free agents to take less money to stay with a franchise that is set up for success in 2021. 🍺 It depends on the age of the veteran (how many years in the league). A normal pattern is you get your rookie deal, then your big contract. You might get another multi-year deal (for less years), but then you are basically going one year deals. Our big ol' DT Joesph we just signed came from the Vikings. He only got a two year deal from us. When it is done, if they think he still has something left in the tank, they will only offer him a one year deal. He's 31 years old.
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