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Post by cthommes on Dec 3, 2020 9:53:39 GMT -7
That's exactly what I mean though. If Herbert keeps playing like he is and we can put pieces around him that make him even better, that 4 years (which will go by fast!) will see Herbert "likely" becoming the highest paid QB in the league. IMHO we have a window of 4 years to really build this team based on ownership and management, what do I mean by that? Once Herbert is king of the QB's, the Spanos coffers will be bare for other talent. Bank on it... I get the love for Herbert, but Herbert is far from becoming the highest paid QB. Might happen, smart to have that thinking as you plan, but he has many games to play really well before that hyperbole is not hyperbole. The real hyperbole in this conversation is that JH's compensation won't change until after the end of his 5th year team option. Channeling muy inner Freak: I laugh.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 3, 2020 11:56:57 GMT -7
That's exactly what I mean though. If Herbert keeps playing like he is and we can put pieces around him that make him even better, that 4 years (which will go by fast!) will see Herbert "likely" becoming the highest paid QB in the league. IMHO we have a window of 4 years to really build this team based on ownership and management, what do I mean by that? Once Herbert is king of the QB's, the Spanos coffers will be bare for other talent. Bank on it... I get the love for Herbert, but Herbert is far from becoming the highest paid QB. Might happen, smart to have that thinking as you plan, but he has many games to play really well before that hyperbole is not hyperbole. Its based on reality and the history of this team... Herbert is not at that level now, and nobody is saying otherwise. I'm simply stating the obvious, this team has a 4-5 year window to build around Herbert or judging by history they will fail. Especially IF he is worthy of top QB dollars.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 3, 2020 13:01:22 GMT -7
I get the love for Herbert, but Herbert is far from becoming the highest paid QB. Might happen, smart to have that thinking as you plan, but he has many games to play really well before that hyperbole is not hyperbole. Its based on reality and the history of this team... Herbert is not at that level now, and nobody is saying otherwise. I'm simply stating the obvious, this team has a 4-5 year window to build around Herbert or judging by history they will fail. Especially IF he is worthy of top QB dollars. They have a 2-3 year window before quality gets very expensive again.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 4, 2020 3:32:58 GMT -7
I get the love for Herbert, but Herbert is far from becoming the highest paid QB. Might happen, smart to have that thinking as you plan, but he has many games to play really well before that hyperbole is not hyperbole. The real hyperbole in this conversation is that JH's compensation won't change until after the end of his 5th year team option. Channeling muy inner Freak: I laugh. Yeah, they will have to get to him before the end of that !!! Meh, KC did it. You know, our once again Division winner.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 4, 2020 3:35:49 GMT -7
Its based on reality and the history of this team... Herbert is not at that level now, and nobody is saying otherwise. I'm simply stating the obvious, this team has a 4-5 year window to build around Herbert or judging by history they will fail. Especially IF he is worthy of top QB dollars. They have a 2-3 year window before quality gets very expensive again. It's sad that you guys don't get the big picture. Sucking has really beaten us down. Let me help: ITS THE KIND OF "PROBLEM" YOU WANT TO HAVE !!!!!
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 4, 2020 7:32:27 GMT -7
They have a 2-3 year window before quality gets very expensive again. It's sad that you guys don't get the big picture. Sucking has really beaten us down. Let me help: ITS THE KIND OF "PROBLEM" YOU WANT TO HAVE !!!!! Yes exactly! The point is, can the Chargers handle it correctly? That is the big picture I'm talking about... Like you said KC bottled up Mahomes quickly, but we're not KC and Herbert is not Mahomes (yet). We're in a good place now though if TT can build around Herbert and get us a decent coaching staff.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 4, 2020 10:09:54 GMT -7
"Mahomes got that giant contract so KC cannot pay anyone else !!!! They are dead dead dead !!!! The sky is falling !!!!!"
KC has taken their SB Rings to a 10-1 record right now.
-Freak does a mic drop-
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 4, 2020 11:26:09 GMT -7
I'll be more impressed if they 3 peat... It does take a little while for that big money to catch up to a team, lets see what happens this off season.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 7, 2020 12:04:32 GMT -7
For something more fun than the 2020 Chargers, we may as well engage in the time-honored Chargers fan tradition of hoping for better next season. Imagine that you are in the position of Spanos—except you have a spine and care about football outcomes. Do you keep TT? If not, who replaces him? What’s your coaching staff (at least the HC, DC, and OC)? What are your draft priorities based upon the team today? According to Popper, possible GMs to watch for are: Mike Borgonzi (Chiefs), Nick Casiero (Pats), Ed Dodds (Colts), Joe Horwitz (Ravens), Adam Peters (49ers), Joe Schoen (Bills), Louis Riddick (ESPN), and Daniel Jeremiah. Possible HCs: Eric Bieniemy, Brian Daboll, Arthur Smith, Matt Campbell, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, Nick Sirianni, Jim Harbaugh “in that order”
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 7, 2020 12:17:21 GMT -7
For something more fun than the 2020 Chargers, we may as well engage in the time-honored Chargers fan tradition of hoping for better next season. Imagine that you are in the position of Spanos—except you have a spine and care about football outcomes. Do you keep TT? If not, who replaces him? What’s your coaching staff (at least the HC, DC, and OC)? What are your draft priorities based upon the team today? According to Popper, possible GMs to watch for are: Mike Borgonzi (Chiefs), Nick Casiero (Pats), Ed Dodds (Colts), Joe Horwitz (Ravens), Adam Peters (49ers), Joe Schoen (Bills), Louis Riddick (ESPN), and Daniel Jeremiah. Possible HCs: Eric Bieniemy, Brian Daboll, Arthur Smith, Matt Campbell, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, Nick Sirianni, Jim Harbaugh “in that order” No change at GM.......just watch. Kellen Moore as HC is right up the Spanos alley.....probably get him really inexpensively. Only been an OC a couple years I think, but pretty creative guy. Big big big roll of the dice by Spanos, but he could be the surprise of the century. Until the OL is fixed, it won't matter much.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 7, 2020 13:03:04 GMT -7
There is always an attraction to big risk/reward moves like betting on someone that could be the next great HC. But right now, they need to avoid that, in my view, and bring in a HC with years of NFL experience, prior experience as a HC, and a successful (.600+) track record in that role. Expecting someone without real NFL experience as a coach in charge to come in and build a staff, implement a strategy and systems, and manage all of the personalities and mechanics is borderline irrational.
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Post by totallybolted on Dec 7, 2020 13:42:07 GMT -7
I was mostly being sarcastic on the TT and Spanos comments, but yea... TT is on thin ice with me. You spend the money on Meyer, let him choose his staff and draft Sewell. I doubt he would be "long" gone with Trevor Lawrence a guaranteed pick #1... Are you forgetting our record? We will likely be picking in the top 5, so I give us a pretty darn good chance of landing Sewell. TT has done a fairly solid job as GM, and he does seem to fit with J Spanos, at least publicly. Sewell is looking like a 3rd or 4th pick to me at this point. Clearly the Bolts will be drafting top 10, so there is a chance. If Sewell is there, it is not a difficult choice, is it? If they got Sewell @5th, then perhaps trade some futures to get back into round 1 again and grab another OT, or maybe the OC Humphrey. the bolts will be picking 4th at the worst. 3rd is clearly in reach
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 7, 2020 13:49:45 GMT -7
TT has done a fairly solid job as GM, and he does seem to fit with J Spanos, at least publicly. Sewell is looking like a 3rd or 4th pick to me at this point. Clearly the Bolts will be drafting top 10, so there is a chance. If Sewell is there, it is not a difficult choice, is it? If they got Sewell @5th, then perhaps trade some futures to get back into round 1 again and grab another OT, or maybe the OC Humphrey. the bolts will be picking 4th at the worst. 3rd is clearly in reach Never underestimate the power of AL to screw up a good thing.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 7, 2020 14:50:40 GMT -7
TT has done a fairly solid job as GM, and he does seem to fit with J Spanos, at least publicly. Sewell is looking like a 3rd or 4th pick to me at this point. Clearly the Bolts will be drafting top 10, so there is a chance. If Sewell is there, it is not a difficult choice, is it? If they got Sewell @5th, then perhaps trade some futures to get back into round 1 again and grab another OT, or maybe the OC Humphrey. the bolts will be picking 4th at the worst. 3rd is clearly in reach As it stands today..... Go on a roll and win the next 4 games and they won't even be in the top ten. We both know that is not going to happen, but my point is draft position is nowhere near locked in. I would be stunned if Sewell drops past the 4th pick, so continuing to lose seems important. Losing out might get them to 3rd, which really makes Sewell likely. Sewell addresses the biggest need, LOT, but if he is off the board they will still get a very good player at another position of need such as CB.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 7, 2020 14:57:23 GMT -7
According to Popper, possible GMs to watch for are: Mike Borgonzi (Chiefs), Nick Casiero (Pats), Ed Dodds (Colts), Joe Horwitz (Ravens), Adam Peters (49ers), Joe Schoen (Bills), Louis Riddick (ESPN), and Daniel Jeremiah. Possible HCs: Eric Bieniemy, Brian Daboll, Arthur Smith, Matt Campbell, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, Nick Sirianni, Jim Harbaugh “in that order” No change at GM.......just watch. Kellen Moore as HC is right up the Spanos alley.....probably get him really inexpensively. Only been an OC a couple years I think, but pretty creative guy. Big big big roll of the dice by Spanos, but he could be the surprise of the century. Until the OL is fixed, it won't matter much. Not sure if you are endorsing Kellen Moore or just stating your opinion... I agree with you, he is a Spanos type of hire. IMHO Kellen Moore is McCoy 2.0 and more of the same... The difference is McCoy came from a winning organization and actually made a name for himself with Tebow. Kellen Moore comes from the dumpster fire that is the Cowboys, hard pass on a guy that has only proven he can run a poor offense without his starting QB. Haaarrrddddd pass....
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