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Post by joemcrugby on Mar 27, 2021 18:22:05 GMT -7
I would say mentor is the wrong term as well. But to have a guy like chase will permit herbert to cover twice the amount of film breakdown for opponents which will make life better for herbert, he’s more of an extra personal assistant/qb coach for herbert. Just another knowledgeable person that will help break down film and come up with ideas for attacking opponents that week. Sometimes a different set of eyes see different things and as smart as herbert is, daniel has been around and he will have a few things he can impart to herbert that will help his continued growth and maturation as an NFL QB. daniel was a good addition for herbert and definitely a guy that has zero pretensions on herbert’s throne. He could also help to teach easton stick by example how to work as a B/U in the NFL. so much of what the chargers are doing right now is to make life better for herbert and to protect him, he’s gotta be ecstatic right now That is def true... Herbert's job is def safe it seems. Easton Stick needs to be cut already, he is a waste of a roster spot IMHO. Stick will be practice squad in 2021. No need to cut him.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 27, 2021 18:52:22 GMT -7
That is def true... Herbert's job is def safe it seems. Easton Stick needs to be cut already, he is a waste of a roster spot IMHO. Stick will be practice squad in 2021. No need to cut him. Stop it......sensible approaches are not allowed.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 27, 2021 18:57:39 GMT -7
I absolutely HATE it when they say "mentor"... Who the hell wants a career backup QB "mentoring" your young phenom? My eyes are rolling to the back of my head lol... I would say mentor is the wrong term as well. But to have a guy like chase will permit herbert to cover twice the amount of film breakdown for opponents which will make life better for herbert, he’s more of an extra personal assistant/qb coach for herbert. Just another knowledgeable person that will help break down film and come up with ideas for attacking opponents that week. Sometimes a different set of eyes see different things and as smart as herbert is, daniel has been around and he will have a few things he can impart to herbert that will help his continued growth and maturation as an NFL QB. daniel was a good addition for herbert and definitely a guy that has zero pretensions on herbert’s throne. He could also help to teach easton stick by example how to work as a B/U in the NFL. so much of what the chargers are doing right now is to make life better for herbert and to protect him, he’s gotta be ecstatic right now so how is that not the definition of what a mentor does? He is a VET, there is no way Herbert is going to be at his level of NFL experience. To your point, we already have a really good one in Herbert, getting him to great faster can make things even better.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 27, 2021 19:19:40 GMT -7
I would say mentor is the wrong term as well. But to have a guy like chase will permit herbert to cover twice the amount of film breakdown for opponents which will make life better for herbert, he’s more of an extra personal assistant/qb coach for herbert. Just another knowledgeable person that will help break down film and come up with ideas for attacking opponents that week. Sometimes a different set of eyes see different things and as smart as herbert is, daniel has been around and he will have a few things he can impart to herbert that will help his continued growth and maturation as an NFL QB. daniel was a good addition for herbert and definitely a guy that has zero pretensions on herbert’s throne. He could also help to teach easton stick by example how to work as a B/U in the NFL. so much of what the chargers are doing right now is to make life better for herbert and to protect him, he’s gotta be ecstatic right now so how is that not the definition of what a mentor does? He is a VET, there is no way Herbert is going to be at his level of NFL experience. To your point, we already have a really good one in Herbert, getting him to great faster can make things even better. I lean towards 'mentor' not really fitting the situation. I get where you are coming from TB, especially in the areas of 'how' to be a solid pro, but the talent difference is so great. The older player could teach Gretzky how to handle the media, the public, the down time on the road, even the money, but none ever thought they could teach him the game......simply too much difference in talent level.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Mar 27, 2021 19:36:39 GMT -7
I would say mentor is the wrong term as well. But to have a guy like chase will permit herbert to cover twice the amount of film breakdown for opponents which will make life better for herbert, he’s more of an extra personal assistant/qb coach for herbert. Just another knowledgeable person that will help break down film and come up with ideas for attacking opponents that week. Sometimes a different set of eyes see different things and as smart as herbert is, daniel has been around and he will have a few things he can impart to herbert that will help his continued growth and maturation as an NFL QB. daniel was a good addition for herbert and definitely a guy that has zero pretensions on herbert’s throne. He could also help to teach easton stick by example how to work as a B/U in the NFL. so much of what the chargers are doing right now is to make life better for herbert and to protect him, he’s gotta be ecstatic right now so how is that not the definition of what a mentor does? He is a VET, there is no way Herbert is going to be at his level of NFL experience. To your point, we already have a really good one in Herbert, getting him to great faster can make things even better. Honestly I don’t care if people call him a mentor to herbert but it just sounds kind of funny to me because Herbert has already accomplished twice as much on the field in one incomplete season than daniel has in an 11 year career. It’s not like phillip rivers or drew brees or tom brady is backing him up. I see danial as an assistant to herbert, that’s not to say that on occassion he might not have something he can teach herbert. I just see him as more of an assistant, someone to help him cover more film breakdowns and study. An assistant/tutor? A mentor...
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 27, 2021 20:07:45 GMT -7
I don't see a true mentor as anywhere near an "assistant" but I won't get into semantics on it, your opinion is your opinion. Tutor? Sure... But IMHO a tutor is much more formal than a mentor. To me a mentor is someone you look up to and they take you under their wing, not just show you things. But again, semantics. Your opinion is yours... I just hope Daniel is never needed on the field during a game.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 27, 2021 20:13:31 GMT -7
I don't see a true mentor as anywhere near an "assistant" but I won't get into semantics on it, your opinion is your opinion. Tutor? Sure... But IMHO a tutor is much more formal than a mentor. To me a mentor is someone you look up to and they take you under their wing, not just show you things. But again, semantics. Your opinion is yours... I just hope Daniel is never needed on the field during a game. and I hope Chase plays every fourth quarter as the Bolts go 16-0........
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Post by jwr10x on Mar 27, 2021 21:17:53 GMT -7
Stick will most likely be considered the extra "camp fodder" QB that we tend to use a late draft pick on or pick up as an UDFA. He will get waived then resigned to the practice squad.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 28, 2021 0:54:54 GMT -7
OR these are the types of contracts you pay special teams players. A special teams player generally doesn’t have 14 sacks over the past two seasons and finish with the second most sacks for his team in 2020. Fackrell is a rotational pass rusher who can get to the QB and the type of player that Staley got the best out of with the Rams. What the hell is that ? OH, he's not good enough to start. Like a Nwosu type. Thanks.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 28, 2021 0:57:59 GMT -7
so how is that not the definition of what a mentor does? He is a VET, there is no way Herbert is going to be at his level of NFL experience. To your point, we already have a really good one in Herbert, getting him to great faster can make things even better. Honestly I don’t care if people call him a mentor to herbert but it just sounds kind of funny to me because Herbert has already accomplished twice as much on the field in one incomplete season than daniel has in an 11 year career. It’s not like phillip rivers or drew brees or tom brady is backing him up. I see danial as an assistant to herbert, that’s not to say that on occassion he might not have something he can teach herbert. I just see him as more of an assistant, someone to help him cover more film breakdowns and study. An assistant/tutor? A mentor... Nominated Chase smack of the day.
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Post by joemcrugby on Mar 28, 2021 1:37:19 GMT -7
A special teams player generally doesn’t have 14 sacks over the past two seasons and finish with the second most sacks for his team in 2020. Fackrell is a rotational pass rusher who can get to the QB and the type of player that Staley got the best out of with the Rams. What the hell is that ? OH, he's not good enough to start. Like a Nwosu type. Thanks. You don’t get a vet starting DE for less than $5 million / year. And a special teams player doesn’t get 14 sacks over two seasons. He is exactly as I described him, and getting Fackrell at $1.5 million for 2021 is grand larceny. TT should be in jail for that theft.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 28, 2021 3:40:35 GMT -7
I don't see a true mentor as anywhere near an "assistant" but I won't get into semantics on it, your opinion is your opinion. Tutor? Sure... But IMHO a tutor is much more formal than a mentor. To me a mentor is someone you look up to and they take you under their wing, not just show you things. But again, semantics. Your opinion is yours... I just hope Daniel is never needed on the field during a game. and I hope Chase plays every fourth quarter as the Bolts go 16-0........ Most definetley!! I really hope Staley is that kind of coach that has no issues putting his knee on the neck of his opponents and running up the score.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 28, 2021 7:37:55 GMT -7
and I hope Chase plays every fourth quarter as the Bolts go 16-0........ Most definetley!! I really hope Staley is that kind of coach that has no issues putting his knee on the neck of his opponents and running up the score. I do not see it as running up the score. I see it as the offence is expected, designed in fact, to score. Asking them to do otherwise seems counter productive, and possibly introduces poor habits. If the game is out of hand, subbing Chase in as a protection of sorts for Herbert should not change the expectation from the offence. The execution of play called should remain high, regardless of which players are on the field. Set the bar high.....
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Post by fouts2herbert on Mar 28, 2021 9:29:02 GMT -7
What the hell is that ? OH, he's not good enough to start. Like a Nwosu type. Thanks. You don’t get a vet starting DE for less than $5 million / year. And a special teams player doesn’t get 14 sacks over two seasons. He is exactly as I described him, and getting Fackrell at $1.5 million for 2021 is grand larceny. TT should be in jail for that theft. I’ve gone back and watched some of fackrell’s sacks, he’s more of a coverage sack guy that keeps going until he gets the QB, he also finishes when another pass rusher flushes the QB in his direction. He might end up with 10 sacks next year because joey bosa is on the field more than because he created the pressure himself. one thing that fackrell is awesome at is diagnosing plays and blowing them up behind the LOS, I think he led the giants in TFLs last year, he’s also a fantastic tackler once he makes contact the guy goes down.
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Post by sonorajim on Mar 28, 2021 11:34:49 GMT -7
I prefer to reserve judgement on Fackrell being a starter of not. Valuable asset for budget $? Definitely. We haven't seen him in Staley's D with Bosa, etc. He may earn some starts but if not, someone else is a pretty good rusher. The level of competition, minus Ingram got better at the least.
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