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Post by sonorajim on May 9, 2021 12:17:53 GMT -7
totallybolted- Thanks for your input. I'm 76 yo and considered it a worthwhile gamble to get the moderne 2nd shot on April Fool's day. I am troubled by the way covid is being handled and see little reason to trust political entities or network reporting. I know damn well we're getting exaggerations, outright lies & propaganda from nearly all sides. It's tough to sift out a few grains of truth. I guess you go with what you trust, but do your best to verify. It's a tall order in today's climate.
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Post by afboltfan on May 9, 2021 13:23:14 GMT -7
I got my second Pfizer shot last week... I went to HEB today and didn't wear my mask. It was awesome.
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Post by cthommes on May 9, 2021 14:32:36 GMT -7
I got my second Pfizer shot last week... I went to HEB today and didn't wear my mask. It was awesome. I can tell you're not in CA, and not just because of HEB.
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Post by totallybolted on May 9, 2021 15:10:29 GMT -7
totallybolted- Thanks for your input. I'm 76 yo and considered it a worthwhile gamble to get the moderne 2nd shot on April Fool's day. I am troubled by the way covid is being handled and see little reason to trust political entities or network reporting. I know damn well we're getting exaggerations, outright lies & propaganda from nearly all sides. It's tough to sift out a few grains of truth. I guess you go with what you trust, but do your best to verify. It's a tall order in today's climate. thanks. people need to make their own judgments. I don't begrudge anyone who did take it. Informed consent. Give people all the info and let them make up their minds, but don't remove their liberties if they decide counter to you. To your point its hard to know what is the truth is especially if we are not told everything. masks are the other joke. There are 12 RCT's published on masks. Not one, repeat not one says masks stop the spread of virus'. In fact, a number did show those with masks did worse. Dr. Fraudci, told the truth once at the very beginning, march 3, 2020, when he said, "People shouldn't wear mask, they will not stop the spread of the virus. they may catch a dropplet or two, but that's it." Yet here we are with mandatesOutside we shouldn't be wearing anything. UV light kills any virus in under 15 seconds.
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Post by sonorajim on May 9, 2021 15:41:27 GMT -7
totallybolted- Thanks for your input. I'm 76 yo and considered it a worthwhile gamble to get the moderne 2nd shot on April Fool's day. I am troubled by the way covid is being handled and see little reason to trust political entities or network reporting. I know damn well we're getting exaggerations, outright lies & propaganda from nearly all sides. It's tough to sift out a few grains of truth. I guess you go with what you trust, but do your best to verify. It's a tall order in today's climate. thanks. people need to make their own judgments. I don't begrudge anyone who did take it. Informed consent. Give people all the info and let them make up their minds, but don't remove their liberties if they decide counter to you. To your point its hard to know what is the truth is especially if we are not told everything. masks are the other joke. There are 12 RCT's published on masks. Not one, repeat not one says masks stop the spread of virus'. In fact, a number did show those with masks did worse. Dr. Fraudci, told the truth once at the very beginning, march 3, 2020, when he said, "People shouldn't wear mask, they will not stop the spread of the virus. they may catch a dropplet or two, but that's it." Yet here we are with mandatesOutside we shouldn't be wearing anything. UV light kills any virus in under 15 seconds. I suspect that we have many similarities in our takes re covid, related topics. Best wishes to you & yours.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2021 1:10:20 GMT -7
totallybolted- Thanks for your input. I'm 76 yo and considered it a worthwhile gamble to get the moderne 2nd shot on April Fool's day. I am troubled by the way covid is being handled and see little reason to trust political entities or network reporting. I know damn well we're getting exaggerations, outright lies & propaganda from nearly all sides. It's tough to sift out a few grains of truth. I guess you go with what you trust, but do your best to verify. It's a tall order in today's climate. Concise, personal, current events. This is actually Nominated Post of the Day. Well done.
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Post by afboltfan on May 10, 2021 6:27:50 GMT -7
I got my second Pfizer shot last week... I went to HEB today and didn't wear my mask. It was awesome. I can tell you're not in CA, and not just because of HEB. Its pretty much life back to normal in Waco, which is good. I feel bad for other parts of the country... We're headed back to Cali in a few weeks to visit the family and I'm dreading all the nonsense of communist california. (that was a joke, but not really)
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Post by moekid on May 10, 2021 8:41:33 GMT -7
totallybolted- Thanks for your input. I'm 76 yo and considered it a worthwhile gamble to get the moderne 2nd shot on April Fool's day. I am troubled by the way covid is being handled and see little reason to trust political entities or network reporting. I know damn well we're getting exaggerations, outright lies & propaganda from nearly all sides. It's tough to sift out a few grains of truth. I guess you go with what you trust, but do your best to verify. It's a tall order in today's climate. thanks. people need to make their own judgments. I don't begrudge anyone who did take it. Informed consent. Give people all the info and let them make up their minds, but don't remove their liberties if they decide counter to you. To your point its hard to know what is the truth is especially if we are not told everything. masks are the other joke. There are 12 RCT's published on masks. Not one, repeat not one says masks stop the spread of virus'. In fact, a number did show those with masks did worse. Dr. Fraudci, told the truth once at the very beginning, march 3, 2020, when he said, "People shouldn't wear mask, they will not stop the spread of the virus. they may catch a dropplet or two, but that's it." Yet here we are with mandatesOutside we shouldn't be wearing anything. UV light kills any virus in under 15 seconds. Have you talked to your doctor?
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2021 8:47:51 GMT -7
thanks. people need to make their own judgments. I don't begrudge anyone who did take it. Informed consent. Give people all the info and let them make up their minds, but don't remove their liberties if they decide counter to you. To your point its hard to know what is the truth is especially if we are not told everything. masks are the other joke. There are 12 RCT's published on masks. Not one, repeat not one says masks stop the spread of virus'. In fact, a number did show those with masks did worse. Dr. Fraudci, told the truth once at the very beginning, march 3, 2020, when he said, "People shouldn't wear mask, they will not stop the spread of the virus. they may catch a dropplet or two, but that's it." Yet here we are with mandatesOutside we shouldn't be wearing anything. UV light kills any virus in under 15 seconds. Have you talked to your doctor? The good news is yes. The bad news is the goalie is his doctor.
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Post by frozendisc on May 10, 2021 9:31:02 GMT -7
Have you talked to your doctor? The good news is yes. The bad news is the goalie is his doctor. My degree is in psychology.....so maybe I could help, eh?
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Post by headtrip on May 10, 2021 9:37:53 GMT -7
totallybolted- Thanks for your input. I'm 76 yo and considered it a worthwhile gamble to get the moderne 2nd shot on April Fool's day. I am troubled by the way covid is being handled and see little reason to trust political entities or network reporting. I know damn well we're getting exaggerations, outright lies & propaganda from nearly all sides. It's tough to sift out a few grains of truth. I guess you go with what you trust, but do your best to verify. It's a tall order in today's climate. thanks. people need to make their own judgments. I don't begrudge anyone who did take it. Informed consent. Give people all the info and let them make up their minds, but don't remove their liberties if they decide counter to you. To your point its hard to know what is the truth is especially if we are not told everything. masks are the other joke. There are 12 RCT's published on masks. Not one, repeat not one says masks stop the spread of virus'. In fact, a number did show those with masks did worse. Dr. Fraudci, told the truth once at the very beginning, march 3, 2020, when he said, "People shouldn't wear mask, they will not stop the spread of the virus. they may catch a dropplet or two, but that's it." Yet here we are with mandatesOutside we shouldn't be wearing anything. UV light kills any virus in under 15 seconds. I’m not gonna argue about the efficacy of masks with you, but I will say that liberty doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want. We have societal responsibilities to each other.
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Post by joemcrugby on May 10, 2021 9:38:02 GMT -7
totallybolted- Thanks for your input. I'm 76 yo and considered it a worthwhile gamble to get the moderne 2nd shot on April Fool's day. I am troubled by the way covid is being handled and see little reason to trust political entities or network reporting. I know damn well we're getting exaggerations, outright lies & propaganda from nearly all sides. It's tough to sift out a few grains of truth. I guess you go with what you trust, but do your best to verify. It's a tall order in today's climate. thanks. people need to make their own judgments. I don't begrudge anyone who did take it. Informed consent. Give people all the info and let them make up their minds, but don't remove their liberties if they decide counter to you. To your point its hard to know what is the truth is especially if we are not told everything. masks are the other joke. There are 12 RCT's published on masks. Not one, repeat not one says masks stop the spread of virus'. In fact, a number did show those with masks did worse. Dr. Fraudci, told the truth once at the very beginning, march 3, 2020, when he said, "People shouldn't wear mask, they will not stop the spread of the virus. they may catch a dropplet or two, but that's it." Yet here we are with mandatesOutside we shouldn't be wearing anything. UV light kills any virus in under 15 seconds. It's a personal decision, but it's important to get accurate scientific information in order to make that decision. From the National Academies of the Sciences, Engineering, & Medicine: ____________ Sunlight may destroy the novel coronavirus, but it also damages skin and can cause cancer. There are three types of UV rays emitted by the sun—UVA, UVB, and UVC. UVC light is blocked by Earth’s atmosphere, but UVA rays and some UVB rays reach Earth’s surface. One recent study tested whether UVB rays could affect the novel coronavirus. In order to control the environment, the study team simulated sunlight with a lamp that emitted only UVB rays and exposed surfaces to the lamp’s light. The simulated sunlight destroyed the novel coronavirus in less than 20 minutes.
More studies are needed to confirm this result, and unlike in the study, the amount of UVB light that reaches Earth’s surface is not constant—it depends on many factors, including time of day and time of year. But regardless of how quickly UVB rays may affect the coronavirus, it is important to note that the study looked at the effect on surfaces, not on people. UV radiation, which most often comes from the sun, is dangerous to people because it damages skin cells. Exposure to UV radiation is the main factor in developing skin cancer. In other words, exposing your skin to the sun’s UV rays could destroy any coronaviruses present, but it will damage the DNA in your skin’s cells. Over time, the effects of that damage build up and make the cells more likely to develop into skin cancer. www.nationalacademies.org/based-on-science/covid-sunscreen__________ From a study published in Oxford Academic in August 2020 measuring the influence of sunlight & humidity on airborne Covid-particles: Airborne SARS-CoV-2 Is Rapidly Inactivated by Simulated Sunlight ... The present study examined the influence of simulated sunlight and relative humidity on the stability of SARS-CoV-2 in aerosols generated from virus suspended in either simulated saliva or culture medium at 20°C. Simulated sunlight rapidly inactivated the virus in aerosols in either suspension matrix, with half-lives of less than 6 minutes and 90% of the virus inactivated in less than 20 minutes for all simulated sunlight levels tested. There was a small but statistically significant reduction in decay rate under high-intensity sunlight when the virus was suspended in culture medium compared to simulated saliva, suggesting that the matrix in which the virus is suspended may also be an important factor to consider when examining the persistence of SARS-CoV-2 in an aerosol. While it has been reported previously that UVC can inactivate aerosolized coronaviruses [34], the present study is the first to demonstrate that simulated sunlight, with UVA and UVB levels similar to natural sunlight, is also able to inactivate airborne coronaviruses. academic.oup.com/jid/article/222/4/564/5856149
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Post by headtrip on May 10, 2021 10:06:52 GMT -7
Joey M bringing the heat as usual. It always amazes me how few people are able to properly research a topic. I mean, I only have an associates degree but I know how to suss out a proper source.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2021 10:18:19 GMT -7
The good news is yes. The bad news is the goalie is his doctor. My degree is in psychology.....so maybe I could help, eh? Its not gonna hurt.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 10, 2021 10:23:31 GMT -7
thanks. people need to make their own judgments. I don't begrudge anyone who did take it. Informed consent. Give people all the info and let them make up their minds, but don't remove their liberties if they decide counter to you. To your point its hard to know what is the truth is especially if we are not told everything. masks are the other joke. There are 12 RCT's published on masks. Not one, repeat not one says masks stop the spread of virus'. In fact, a number did show those with masks did worse. Dr. Fraudci, told the truth once at the very beginning, march 3, 2020, when he said, "People shouldn't wear mask, they will not stop the spread of the virus. they may catch a dropplet or two, but that's it." Yet here we are with mandatesOutside we shouldn't be wearing anything. UV light kills any virus in under 15 seconds. I’m not gonna argue about the efficacy of masks with you, but I will say that liberty doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want. We have societal responsibilities to each other. This correct. All of YOU do have responsibilities. Mask, social distance, kneel before me. It's not like its a long list or anything.
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