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Post by boltnut on May 13, 2021 21:56:16 GMT -7
My parents are vaxed, my siblings are vaxed, my wife is vaxed. My oldest is vaxed. Now just waiting on my youngest and her cousins.
I had a good friend just lose his dad last month to covid... visiting his grand kids. He never made it home. From the grand kids house, to the hospital, to the morgue... in less than a week. Post all of the 0.002 statistics you need to. It only takes 1 loved one to make all those stats seem invalid. The whole family is torn apart.
I wear my mask for my 14-year old. I wear my mask for for my un-vaxed students. I wear my mask for their 70-year old abuelo.
Do what you want. I know you will. And that's just another reason to wear my mask...
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Post by cthommes on May 13, 2021 22:51:08 GMT -7
My parents are vaxed, my siblings are vaxed, my wife is vaxed. My oldest is vaxed. Now just waiting on my youngest and her cousins. I had a good friend just lose his dad last month to covid... visiting his grand kids. He never made it home. From the grand kids house, to the hospital, to the morgue... in less than a week. Post all of the 0.002 statistics you need to. It only takes 1 loved one to make all those stats seem invalid. The whole family is torn apart. I wear my mask for my 14-year old. I wear my mask for for my un-vaxed students. I wear my mask for their 70-year old abuelo. Do what you want. I know you will. And that's just another reason to wear my mask... The CDC said today you don't need to. But preach anyway!
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Post by chargerfreak on May 14, 2021 3:05:38 GMT -7
Moderna vaccine yesterday (first dose). Absolutely no side effects then, but mild arm soreness this afternoon... strange. Just don't wimp-out on the 2nd dose... like Freak. That's akin to don't wimp out when the second lion comes out of the den.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 14, 2021 3:18:05 GMT -7
Only religious leaders out west.......those rebellious types. I just saw someone up there stating they were going to give police greater power to harass people for being out of their homes. Canada huh ? It's starting to grow on me............................................. If you want a REAL lesson in Empire, the Prime Minister of Israel had to get on the tv and tell everyone to stop lynching each other !!!!!!! My kind of Rule.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 14, 2021 3:22:40 GMT -7
There is no way I'm leaving my kids un-vaccinated. My 21-year old is already vaccinated and my 14-year old will start high school in the Fall. I know too many long-haulers that can't do many of the things they used to do. I'm not strapping my kid with that burden... not with all of the anti-vaxers and anti-maskers still out there. Don't take this wrong. I respect your decision as yours. I just don't understand it. Your kids have a .002% chance of being negatively affected by the virus. Exceedingly rare, the cost-benefit argument against using an essentially untested vaccine is off the charts and not in favour of the vaccine. I do not understand your fear. I agree with af. The risk of the unknown is too high for an experimental biologic with no long term data. Did you just call him a teenage girl ? Seems rude.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 14, 2021 3:27:25 GMT -7
Don't take this wrong. I respect your decision as yours. I just don't understand it. Your kids have a .002% chance of being negatively affected by the virus. Exceedingly rare, the cost-benefit argument against using an essentially untested vaccine is off the charts and not in favour of the vaccine. I do not understand your fear. I agree with af. The risk of the unknown is too high for an experimental biologic with no long term data. As a middle school teacher, 90 un-vaccinated kids come through my doors every day. I am vaccinated, so my chances of becoming infected are dramatically reduced. Having said that, I can still become infected. If infected, I can bring that home to my family (including my un-vaccinated 14-year old)... where the chances of me infecting her become almost 100%. What I don't fear is a sore arm, chills and a fever for a couple of days... especially if it means we can get back to our normal life. I am unaware of any child deaths from the covid vaccination. I am aware of a number of child deaths from covid, however. And my daughter has a couple friends her age that show long-hauler symptoms (nearly a year after being infected). Do whatever you feel is safe for your family. But knowing that there are careless and un-informed people out there makes me feel like getting my family vaxed and protected. I've waited for 1+ years for people to behave responsibly. But over and over I've seen many adults behaving childishly. I'm not waiting for them anymore. Not everyone on here would connect the dots. Naturally I do. That tells me EVERYTHING, and you could have saved a lot of typing after that. Genius observes, villagers usually provide. My amusement can be found in that it's volunteered.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 14, 2021 3:33:56 GMT -7
My parents are vaxed, my siblings are vaxed, my wife is vaxed. My oldest is vaxed. Now just waiting on my youngest and her cousins. I had a good friend just lose his dad last month to covid... visiting his grand kids. He never made it home. From the grand kids house, to the hospital, to the morgue... in less than a week. Post all of the 0.002 statistics you need to. It only takes 1 loved one to make all those stats seem invalid. The whole family is torn apart.
I wear my mask for my 14-year old. I wear my mask for for my un-vaxed students. I wear my mask for their 70-year old abuelo. Do what you want. I know you will. And that's just another reason to wear my mask... That's horrible. My condolences to his family. My diary of a teenage girl says that I live in a small town where everyone knows everyone. On back to back days, two women died after getting the second teenage girl vaccine. One while driving home from the second shot, the second one at night in bed after getting the second shot. Weird odds ? Bad batch in my area ? Bad Lot ? My teenage girl mind is racing with possibilities. We do that ya know.
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Post by afboltfan on May 14, 2021 6:09:23 GMT -7
My parents are vaxed, my siblings are vaxed, my wife is vaxed. My oldest is vaxed. Now just waiting on my youngest and her cousins. I had a good friend just lose his dad last month to covid... visiting his grand kids. He never made it home. From the grand kids house, to the hospital, to the morgue... in less than a week. Post all of the 0.002 statistics you need to. It only takes 1 loved one to make all those stats seem invalid. The whole family is torn apart. I wear my mask for my 14-year old. I wear my mask for for my un-vaxed students. I wear my mask for their 70-year old abuelo. Do what you want. I know you will. And that's just another reason to wear my mask... I believe more in the science that says children are not spreaders than I am of the science of Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson... My kids will NOT be getting an untested "emergency authorized vaccine". I applaud your sense of safety but there is a line I will not cross for anyone, and that is the long term health of my kids.
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Post by totallybolted on May 14, 2021 7:03:53 GMT -7
They are locking up their citizens. Says the guy who resides in the country with 6 times the incarceration rate... Not for just being outside. Apples and rocks comparison
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Post by moekid on May 14, 2021 9:19:13 GMT -7
My parents are vaxed, my siblings are vaxed, my wife is vaxed. My oldest is vaxed. Now just waiting on my youngest and her cousins. I had a good friend just lose his dad last month to covid... visiting his grand kids. He never made it home. From the grand kids house, to the hospital, to the morgue... in less than a week. Post all of the 0.002 statistics you need to. It only takes 1 loved one to make all those stats seem invalid. The whole family is torn apart. I wear my mask for my 14-year old. I wear my mask for for my un-vaxed students. I wear my mask for their 70-year old abuelo. Do what you want. I know you will. And that's just another reason to wear my mask... I believe more in the science that says children are not spreaders than I am of the science of Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson... My kids will NOT be getting an untested "emergency authorized vaccine". I applaud your sense of safety but there is a line I will not cross for anyone, and that is the long term health of my kids. When the vaccine gets full approval will the kids get it?
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Post by chargerfreak on May 14, 2021 9:59:17 GMT -7
I believe more in the science that says children are not spreaders than I am of the science of Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson... My kids will NOT be getting an untested "emergency authorized vaccine". I applaud your sense of safety but there is a line I will not cross for anyone, and that is the long term health of my kids. When the vaccine gets full approval will the kids get it? I think Pfizer is approved for kids now. I sure hope schools and doctors don't just start lining em up unannounced Empire style. The parents will throw a fit. We don't want to see af down at the school stabbing the school nurse with her own needle.
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Post by sonorajim on May 14, 2021 11:15:20 GMT -7
It sure as hell isn't the Mexican border. You had better have a valid passport and be ready for a detailed search of person, property and records to enter Canada from the US. That was pre-Covid. I'm not sure how many times you've actually crossed the border... but you have to show a passport to get into Mexico and show a passport to come back across... the same process as Canada. I've crossed back and forth from Mexico 100+ times in my life. It used to be a lot more laxed in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Ever since 9/11, it's been long, long lines to get back into the US. It's a pain in the ass. If I'm staying a few days vacationing, I'll grin and bare the line. If it's a day trip, I'll usually park on the US side, take a taxi, and walk to and from. Walking across, you still have to have a passport... but you don't have to wait in a line of cars for 2 hours. I haven't been to Mex since the '90s but do have a passport. I have a buddy who retired in Rosarito and crosses frequently, I haven't asked but I think he picks his time carefully. Another friend has a cabin on Kupreanof Is, Ak. In the past we towed a boat through British Columbia, caught the ferry at Prince Rupert to Petersburg. Looks like we'll have to get the ferry in Washington in the future.
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Post by sonorajim on May 14, 2021 11:44:30 GMT -7
When the vaccine gets full approval will the kids get it? I think Pfizer is approved for kids now.I sure hope schools and doctors don't just start lining em up unannounced Empire style. The parents will throw a fit. We don't want to see af down at the school stabbing the school nurse with her own needle. Emergency Use Authorization. There is a distinction. I don't believe anyone can be required to use it.
The technology involved is not the same as the flu vaccine and long term effects are unknown. I'd suggest that "at risk" folks get the shot. Read old and or respiritory / immune compromised. There may not be a "long term" for you if you don't. Otherwise read up and make your own call.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 14, 2021 12:30:17 GMT -7
I think Pfizer is approved for kids now.I sure hope schools and doctors don't just start lining em up unannounced Empire style. The parents will throw a fit. We don't want to see af down at the school stabbing the school nurse with her own needle. Emergency Use Authorization. There is a distinction. I don't believe anyone can be required to use it.
The technology involved is not the same as the flu vaccine and long term effects are unknown. I'd suggest that "at risk" folks get the shot. Read old and or respiritory / immune compromised. There may not be a "long term" for you if you don't. Otherwise read up and make your own call.
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Post by afboltfan on May 14, 2021 13:50:41 GMT -7
I believe more in the science that says children are not spreaders than I am of the science of Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson... My kids will NOT be getting an untested "emergency authorized vaccine". I applaud your sense of safety but there is a line I will not cross for anyone, and that is the long term health of my kids. When the vaccine gets full approval will the kids get it? Depends... Don't get me wrong, I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I'm also not going to assume emergency authorization makes it safe. If it gets full approval and schools require it, then yea. Until then, no. My kids have also been in school all year, so I'm not worried about the political drama going on elsewhere in the country. I'm taking a wait and see approach basically...
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