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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 16, 2021 7:44:36 GMT -7
Williams dealt with a few different injuries last year. He sprained his shoulder in late August but was available for Week 1. He exited Week 3 with a hamstring injury and missed the following game. Then a back injury knocked him out 2 snaps into Week 14 and limited him to just 42% of the snaps in Week 15. In his 12 healthy games, Williams averaged 6.8 targets, 3.8 catches, 60 yards and .4 TDs.His scoring averages in those games would have ranked 40th among WRs in PPR points and 36th in non-PPR. Williams finished 32nd and 39th in PPR points in 2018 and 2019; 21st and 37th in non-PPR. He missed 1 game in 2019 with a back injury and 6 games as a rookie in 2017 -- 5 with a mild disc herniation in his lower back and 1 with a bone bruise on his right knee. He fractured the C6 vertebrae at the base of his neck in the 1st game of the 2015 season at Clemson. Injuries -- specifically to his back -- have been a problem for Williams. But he’s produced as a borderline WR3 when on the field over the past 3 seasons. MW Cost over 15 million dollars for this year. Josh Palmer costs around 900k. That is all. MW is not 'usually injured' as you state. The entre rest of your post is just you saying you do not like the cost/return with MW for this season. While I tend to agree, as I would have a tough time justifying that cost, the choice was made. Clearly the Chargers know all the specifics you posted, and most likely looked at every option.....yet they still made the choice to keep MW. MW is a Charger this season, time to start cheering for his success, just like you would for all the other Chargers. I'm counting on MW going off this year. He is playing for his big contract.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 16, 2021 7:47:27 GMT -7
Hey did you see the Tampa Bay Lightning won the Stanley Cup 4 games to 1 against Montreal ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! The officiating is said to have been the best ever. The refs might get a trophy or something. This is such a childish post....... Phew, I know. Such foolish and defiant children posting on here. When will we get mature, serious, and arrogant adults such as ourselves registered to this board !!!! Its an outrage !
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 16, 2021 9:43:52 GMT -7
MW better watch Josh Palmer taking WR2. If MW wants to get injured as usual, bye bye. MW, you can piss around if you want. Palmers for real. I thought our back up defense line was excellent. I was shocked and pleased. I know most of the board thinks secondary is our strength, Hall looked good. Staley thinks it’s LB. I’ll predict D Line. Roundtree RB looked good. Barnwell had good effort. Good depth battle. Kelley picked up two third and ones. Tribute to him and the offense line. Sounds automatic, but last year it wasn’t. Just my analysis, which is typically beyond Pro level. I don't want to leave out Kyzir White. Played a hell of game. I'm liking him this year. White has had an outstanding camp and it has continued into preseason games. K9, White and Tranquill are going to be big contributors at the ILB position in Staley's scheme this season, and being able to rotate them will (hopefully) keep them healthy and fresh as all three have experienced injury issues during their careers so far.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 16, 2021 9:45:10 GMT -7
Regarding our O-line yesterday… Slater I thought looked outstanding I thought pipkins looked better than I’ve ever seen him look, he has improved from last season and although I still don’t buy him as a quality starter at any point, I now believe he can become a respectable swing tackle Jaimes I thought got beat badly once maybe twice but overall I thought he was good in pass protection and run blocking, I think he has starting potential as a guard. He needs to get stronger and continue learning IOL play Norton had a subpar game, false start, blown assignments, etc… I still think he could push pipkins for the swing tackle spot this preseason but he’s going to need to bounce back next week I’m no expert on center play but I thought quessenberry was very good Of the last few guys only hunter and baker looked like the have any potential, hunter I thought had some good reps Continuing with Line play… after watching the game again (just the defensive snaps) and focusing on the IDL I thought gaziano had a fantastic game, he went from being a classic 6 technique strong side 4-3 DE to putting on 20-25 pounds and a pot belly and basically reinvented himself as a 4/5 technique 3-4 style DE! He is now basically playing a hybrid DT position. While this might sound like splitting hairs it’s actually easier said than done. I remember some very talented chargers draft picks and established veterans that could not make that transition back in the old Marty ball days when the chargers last transitioned away from the 4-3 defense. It’s possible that broughton is ahead of him on the depth chart for the final 53 man roster but if gaziano clears waivers he’ll be on the charger PS for sure if he continues to perform like he did on saturday fehoko I think has already locked down the backup NT position behind joseph, he was excellent on saturday too behind fehoko we saw merrill and he was surprisingly awesome, if he clears waivers he should be on the PS to add injury insurance depth behind joseph and fehoko. He looked winded on saturday so he needs to work on conditioning but he’s a guy I thought was just a camp body and no one talking about him and then he blows up the back up rams offensive line on at least 2 occassions, the guy is disproportionally strong for his size the guy we picked up in FA (covington I think) he was number 95, he looked like a really solid pick up too, he was in the back field a few times hitting the RBs for a loss or pressuring the QB. Like fackrell I thought he was a cheap camp body type signing but he’s definitely going to make the team, he looks really solid! it’s too bad broughton was hurt or held out of playing because I’ve read he’s having a really nice training camp and I was looking to see how transitioned from 4-3 DT to 3-4 DE, after watching gaziano he might be feeling the heat, hopefully we’ll see him against the 49ers. people are talking about the secondary and the linebackers as the strength of this new staley defense and it may hold true, but the defensive line play I saw on Saturday is a good indication that our defensive linemen are not going to be a weak spot either. This defense is going to be really fun to watch!
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 16, 2021 9:56:24 GMT -7
Regarding our O-line yesterday… Slater I thought looked outstanding I thought pipkins looked better than I’ve ever seen him look, he has improved from last season and although I still don’t buy him as a quality starter at any point, I now believe he can become a respectable swing tackle Jaimes I thought got beat badly once maybe twice but overall I thought he was good in pass protection and run blocking, I think he has starting potential as a guard. He needs to get stronger and continue learning IOL play Norton had a subpar game, false start, blown assignments, etc… I still think he could push pipkins for the swing tackle spot this preseason but he’s going to need to bounce back next week I’m no expert on center play but I thought quessenberry was very good Of the last few guys only hunter and baker looked like the have any potential, hunter I thought had some good reps Slater is exactly as advertised, and exactly what a 1st round pick should be.....starting level talent! Pipkins is getting better, but just remember when he was drafted.....talented, but raw was the evaluation. The OL depth has improved, but there really is no depth player pushing to be a starter. Really need the starting OL to stay healthy. The depth can cover a game, but five games will expose them...... I don't know, 1 rookie & 4 depth looked better than last year. With a better game plan, better D & special teams, we'll be competitive. I hope all our starting OL play through the playoffs but it's close to a lock that we're a better offense anyway, even if an OL gets dinged.
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 16, 2021 10:14:54 GMT -7
Continuing with Line play… after watching the game again (just the defensive snaps) and focusing on the IDL I thought gaziano had a fantastic game, he went from being a classic 6 technique strong side 4-3 DE to putting on 20-25 pounds and a pot belly and basically reinvented himself as a 4/5 technique 3-4 style DE! He is now basically playing a hybrid DT position. While this might sound like splitting hairs it’s actually easier said than done. I remember some very talented chargers draft picks and established veterans that could not make that transition back in the old Marty ball days when the chargers last transitioned away from the 4-3 defense. It’s possible that broughton is ahead of him on the depth chart for the final 53 man roster but if gaziano clears waivers he’ll be on the charger PS for sure if he continues to perform like he did on saturday fehoko I think has already locked down the backup NT position behind joseph, he was excellent on saturday too behind fehoko we saw merrill and he was surprisingly awesome, if he clears waivers he should be on the PS to add injury insurance depth behind joseph and fehoko. He looked winded on saturday so he needs to work on conditioning but he’s a guy I thought was just a camp body and no one talking about him and then he blows up the back up rams offensive line on at least 2 occassions, the guy is disproportionally strong for his size the guy we picked up in FA (covington I think) he was number 95, he looked like a really solid pick up too, he was in the back field a few times hitting the RBs for a loss or pressuring the QB. Like fackrell I thought he was a cheap camp body type signing but he’s definitely going to make the team, he looks really solid! it’s too bad broughton was hurt or held out of playing because I’ve read he’s having a really nice training camp and I was looking to see how transitioned from 4-3 DT to 3-4 DE, after watching gaziano he might be feeling the heat, hopefully we’ll see him against the 49ers. people are talking about the secondary and the linebackers as the strength of this new staley defense and it may hold true, but the defensive line play I saw on Saturday is a good indication that our defensive linemen are not going to be a weak spot either. This defense is going to be really fun to watch! I mentioned Merrill, bull strong, quick in a phone booth. I picked him out for short-yardage, goal line D and boom! I was impressed with DL depth. I wondered about Gaziano, his Northwestern record was pretty good. I look forward to seeing more.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 16, 2021 11:52:04 GMT -7
Non-defensive line pass rush reps from the #Chargers first preseason game, per PFF: Amen Ogbongbemiga - 4 Kemon Hall - 2 Kyzir White - 2 Nick Niemann - 2 Drue Tranquill - 1 Damon Lloyd - 1 That's at least 12 blitzes. Which is probably more than Bradley called in any game last yr.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 16, 2021 11:52:44 GMT -7
Kicker battle down to two: Tristan Vizcaino vs. Michael Badgley #Chargers
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 16, 2021 11:59:49 GMT -7
Chargers pass blockers allowed 12 total pressures against the Rams: Trey Pipkins - 4 (one sack, one hit) Tyree St Louis - 2 (one sack) Storm Norton - 2 Donald Parham - 1 Matt Sokol - 1 Scott Quessenberry - 1 Brenden Jaimes - 1
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Post by lightsout42 on Aug 16, 2021 12:57:04 GMT -7
Non-defensive line pass rush reps from the #Chargers first preseason game, per PFF: Amen Ogbongbemiga - 4 Kemon Hall - 2 Kyzir White - 2 Nick Niemann - 2 Drue Tranquill - 1 Damon Lloyd - 1 That's at least 12 blitzes. Which is probably more than Bradley called in any game last yr. That’s more pass rush than Bradley called, or at least capable of delivering, last year.
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 16, 2021 18:36:50 GMT -7
Slater is exactly as advertised, and exactly what a 1st round pick should be.....starting level talent! Pipkins is getting better, but just remember when he was drafted.....talented, but raw was the evaluation. The OL depth has improved, but there really is no depth player pushing to be a starter. Really need the starting OL to stay healthy. The depth can cover a game, but five games will expose them......I don't know, 1 rookie & 4 depth looked better than last year. With a better game plan, better D & special teams, we'll be competitive. I hope all our starting OL play through the playoffs but it's close to a lock that we're a better offense anyway, even if an OL gets dinged.
Last year the Chargers had the worst OL, so after significant personnel changes, improvement is expected, is it not.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 16, 2021 18:57:55 GMT -7
I don't know, 1 rookie & 4 depth looked better than last year. With a better game plan, better D & special teams, we'll be competitive. I hope all our starting OL play through the playoffs but it's close to a lock that we're a better offense anyway, even if an OL gets dinged.
Last year the Chargers had the worst OL, so after significant personnel changes, improvement is expected, is it not. Yes it is but both staley and telesco have both been quoted as saying that the offensive line is much improved but also still a work in progress so they themselves have recognized publicly that it still needs to be improved. I expect a couple more offensive linemen to be drafted again in the 2022 draft with one probably coming in the first couple rounds. Abushi is a one year rental, baluga will not be back next year with zero guaranteed money left he might even retire. Some one might come via free agency again and another one drafted early day 3 to push jaimes for a starting spot and another one drafted early in day 2 to provide a bookend for slater. Call it a hunch but I’m almost certain the chargers will make a move for an offensive tackle before the season starts. And I’m not talking about some big trade, I mean claiming someone from waivers to improve the quality of depth at OT. If I’m the chargers I got my pro scouts scouring every potential roster cut on teams with good offensive lines and I go looking for someone to replace pipkins or norton as an upgrade to those guys.
A guy that stood out to me is a 3rd string RT on the rams named tremayne anchrum, he’s gotta be on our radar after the way he played against nwosu, he nuetralized nwosu on saturday, a third stringer!!! He’s going to get cut because the rams have too many people at the position
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 16, 2021 19:03:06 GMT -7
Non-defensive line pass rush reps from the #Chargers first preseason game, per PFF: Amen Ogbongbemiga - 4 Kemon Hall - 2 Kyzir White - 2 Nick Niemann - 2 Drue Tranquill - 1 Damon Lloyd - 1 That's at least 12 blitzes. Which is probably more than Bradley called in any game last yr. That’s more pass rush than Bradley called, or at least capable of delivering, last year. Those blitzes surprised me, not because I didn’t think staley used them, no, I mean that they weren’t predictable. So many times you can see pre snap who’s going to go, but that wasn’t the case on saturday.
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 18, 2021 7:29:17 GMT -7
Last year the Chargers had the worst OL, so after significant personnel changes, improvement is expected, is it not. Yes it is but both staley and telesco have both been quoted as saying that the offensive line is much improved but also still a work in progress so they themselves have recognized publicly that it still needs to be improved. I expect a couple more offensive linemen to be drafted again in the 2022 draft with one probably coming in the first couple rounds. Abushi is a one year rental, baluga will not be back next year with zero guaranteed money left he might even retire. Some one might come via free agency again and another one drafted early day 3 to push jaimes for a starting spot and another one drafted early in day 2 to provide a bookend for slater. Call it a hunch but I’m almost certain the chargers will make a move for an offensive tackle before the season starts. And I’m not talking about some big trade, I mean claiming someone from waivers to improve the quality of depth at OT. If I’m the chargers I got my pro scouts scouring every potential roster cut on teams with good offensive lines and I go looking for someone to replace pipkins or norton as an upgrade to those guys.
A guy that stood out to me is a 3rd string RT on the rams named tremayne anchrum, he’s gotta be on our radar after the way he played against nwosu, he nuetralized nwosu on saturday, a third stringer!!! He’s going to get cut because the rams have too many people at the position Virtually every club is doing what you have written and highlighted in bold black. As far as the specific player you have noted, I would imagine if he is released that there will be competition for his services, so the player decides the situation he likes best. What drives those decisions is varied, might be money, or a chance to start, or win.....or he likes the fancy uniform....or location. God only knows..... TT knows the best way to build the OL is through the draft, and he drafts OL every year. The misses are what has hurt his build more than anything else.
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 18, 2021 9:28:48 GMT -7
Yes it is but both staley and telesco have both been quoted as saying that the offensive line is much improved but also still a work in progress so they themselves have recognized publicly that it still needs to be improved. I expect a couple more offensive linemen to be drafted again in the 2022 draft with one probably coming in the first couple rounds. Abushi is a one year rental, baluga will not be back next year with zero guaranteed money left he might even retire. Some one might come via free agency again and another one drafted early day 3 to push jaimes for a starting spot and another one drafted early in day 2 to provide a bookend for slater. Call it a hunch but I’m almost certain the chargers will make a move for an offensive tackle before the season starts. And I’m not talking about some big trade, I mean claiming someone from waivers to improve the quality of depth at OT. If I’m the chargers I got my pro scouts scouring every potential roster cut on teams with good offensive lines and I go looking for someone to replace pipkins or norton as an upgrade to those guys.
A guy that stood out to me is a 3rd string RT on the rams named tremayne anchrum, he’s gotta be on our radar after the way he played against nwosu, he nuetralized nwosu on saturday, a third stringer!!! He’s going to get cut because the rams have too many people at the positionVirtually every club is doing what you have written and highlighted in bold black. As far as the specific player you have noted, I would imagine if he is released that there will be competition for his services, so the player decides the situation he likes best. What drives those decisions is varied, might be money, or a chance to start, or win.....or he likes the fancy uniform....or location. God only knows..... TT knows the best way to build the OL is through the draft, and he drafts OL every year. The misses are what has hurt his build more than anything else. TT may have a couple of hits this year which would be very helpful. 🍺 ‘Arrow is definitely pointing up’ for Brenden Jaimes Rookie offensive lineman Brenden Jaimes is starting to find his stride on the interior at guard. He had a solid game in the preseason opener and is now a fixture on the second team at guard. And with multiple tackles missing practice Monday and Tuesday, Jaimes has been working in at left tackle, as well, with the second team. “He’s another guy that is a really good athlete and a smart player and a hard-working player,” Lombardi said of Jaimes. “I think his arrow is really going up. There’s certainly — like any rookie, especially at that position — things that he could get better at. And that’s such an experienced position, it’s such a cerebral position. It’s offensive line, you think it’s just banging your head. But there’s so much to it as far as how I’m setting, how I’m setting against different techniques, against different players. And so I just see a guy that’s going to be a really solid offensive lineman for a number of years.” Jaimes, a fifth-round pick in the spring, was a tackle at Nebraska. He set the school record for consecutive starts with 40. He had not played guard in a game since high school, so moving inside has been a bit of a transition for him. But it appears as though his game is starting to click at this new position. Jaimes played both guard spots in the win over the Rams. “The speed is a little bit different. Things happen a little bit faster at guard,” Lombardi said. “You’re working with people a little bit more in the run game. And so there is a learning curve. But some guys, they’re kind of natural at it, and it’s not completely foreign, obviously, playing offensive line his whole life. He’s just one of those guys that has been getting better every day, and you just see so much more potential. That arrow is definitely pointing up with him.” theathletic.com/2776295/2021/08/17/chargers-training-camp-report-day-15-justin-herbert-was-dealing/
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