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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 18, 2021 9:57:09 GMT -7
Virtually every club is doing what you have written and highlighted in bold black. As far as the specific player you have noted, I would imagine if he is released that there will be competition for his services, so the player decides the situation he likes best. What drives those decisions is varied, might be money, or a chance to start, or win.....or he likes the fancy uniform....or location. God only knows..... TT knows the best way to build the OL is through the draft, and he drafts OL every year. The misses are what has hurt his build more than anything else. TT may have a couple of hits this year which would be very helpful. šŗ āArrow is definitely pointing upā for Brenden Jaimes Rookie offensive lineman Brenden Jaimes is starting to find his stride on the interior at guard. He had a solid game in the preseason opener and is now a fixture on the second team at guard. And with multiple tackles missing practice Monday and Tuesday, Jaimes has been working in at left tackle, as well, with the second team. āHeās another guy that is a really good athlete and a smart player and a hard-working player,ā Lombardi said of Jaimes. āI think his arrow is really going up. Thereās certainly ā like any rookie, especially at that position ā things that he could get better at. And thatās such an experienced position, itās such a cerebral position. Itās offensive line, you think itās just banging your head. But thereās so much to it as far as how Iām setting, how Iām setting against different techniques, against different players. And so I just see a guy thatās going to be a really solid offensive lineman for a number of years.ā Jaimes, a fifth-round pick in the spring, was a tackle at Nebraska. He set the school record for consecutive starts with 40. He had not played guard in a game since high school, so moving inside has been a bit of a transition for him. But it appears as though his game is starting to click at this new position. Jaimes played both guard spots in the win over the Rams. āThe speed is a little bit different. Things happen a little bit faster at guard,ā Lombardi said. āYouāre working with people a little bit more in the run game. And so there is a learning curve. But some guys, theyāre kind of natural at it, and itās not completely foreign, obviously, playing offensive line his whole life. Heās just one of those guys that has been getting better every day, and you just see so much more potential. That arrow is definitely pointing up with him.ā theathletic.com/2776295/2021/08/17/chargers-training-camp-report-day-15-justin-herbert-was-dealing/They are trying to groom him in. We need SOMEONE to pay off for us. Feiler and Aboushi aren't forever.
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Post by moekid on Aug 18, 2021 11:03:08 GMT -7
TT may have a couple of hits this year which would be very helpful. šŗ āArrow is definitely pointing upā for Brenden Jaimes Rookie offensive lineman Brenden Jaimes is starting to find his stride on the interior at guard. He had a solid game in the preseason opener and is now a fixture on the second team at guard. And with multiple tackles missing practice Monday and Tuesday, Jaimes has been working in at left tackle, as well, with the second team. āHeās another guy that is a really good athlete and a smart player and a hard-working player,ā Lombardi said of Jaimes. āI think his arrow is really going up. Thereās certainly ā like any rookie, especially at that position ā things that he could get better at. And thatās such an experienced position, itās such a cerebral position. Itās offensive line, you think itās just banging your head. But thereās so much to it as far as how Iām setting, how Iām setting against different techniques, against different players. And so I just see a guy thatās going to be a really solid offensive lineman for a number of years.ā Jaimes, a fifth-round pick in the spring, was a tackle at Nebraska. He set the school record for consecutive starts with 40. He had not played guard in a game since high school, so moving inside has been a bit of a transition for him. But it appears as though his game is starting to click at this new position. Jaimes played both guard spots in the win over the Rams. āThe speed is a little bit different. Things happen a little bit faster at guard,ā Lombardi said. āYouāre working with people a little bit more in the run game. And so there is a learning curve. But some guys, theyāre kind of natural at it, and itās not completely foreign, obviously, playing offensive line his whole life. Heās just one of those guys that has been getting better every day, and you just see so much more potential. That arrow is definitely pointing up with him.ā theathletic.com/2776295/2021/08/17/chargers-training-camp-report-day-15-justin-herbert-was-dealing/They are trying to groom him in. We need SOMEONE to pay off for us. Feiler and Aboushi aren't forever.Ā Another guy moved from the position he played in college
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 18, 2021 11:14:01 GMT -7
They are trying to groom him in. We need SOMEONE to pay off for us. Feiler and Aboushi aren't forever. Another guy moved from the position he played in college If your picks stick, then you place them quick. Our picks have not panned out. That leaves you with a couple of playable people that have to move where the holes will be. Not a good system at all, but what do you do ?
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 18, 2021 12:38:35 GMT -7
Yes it is but both staley and telesco have both been quoted as saying that the offensive line is much improved but also still a work in progress so they themselves have recognized publicly that it still needs to be improved. I expect a couple more offensive linemen to be drafted again in the 2022 draft with one probably coming in the first couple rounds. Abushi is a one year rental, baluga will not be back next year with zero guaranteed money left he might even retire. Some one might come via free agency again and another one drafted early day 3 to push jaimes for a starting spot and another one drafted early in day 2 to provide a bookend for slater. Call it a hunch but Iām almost certain the chargers will make a move for an offensive tackle before the season starts. And Iām not talking about some big trade, I mean claiming someone from waivers to improve the quality of depth at OT. If Iām the chargers I got my pro scouts scouring every potential roster cut on teams with good offensive lines and I go looking for someone to replace pipkins or norton as an upgrade to those guys.
A guy that stood out to me is a 3rd string RT on the rams named tremayne anchrum, heās gotta be on our radar after the way he played against nwosu, he nuetralized nwosu on saturday, a third stringer!!! Heās going to get cut because the rams have too many people at the positionVirtually every club is doing what you have written and highlighted in bold black. As far as the specific player you have noted, I would imagine if he is released that there will be competition for his services, so the player decides the situation he likes best. What drives those decisions is varied, might be money, or a chance to start, or win.....or he likes the fancy uniform....or location. God only knows..... TT knows the best way to build the OL is through the draft, and he drafts OL every year. The misses are what has hurt his build more than anything else. I think you misunderstood, Iām not talking about signing anchrum to the practice squad. players that get cut automatically have to clear waivers first before becoming free agents, correct me if Iām wrong. Iām talking about claiming anchrum if he goes thru waivers, if he gets claimed off waivers then he would belong to the chargers. The kicker is that the chargers would have to keep him on the 53 man roster for 3 weeks minimum. thatās the rub, any team claiming him will have to cut someone that would otherwise be on their final cut down roster. Iāve seen the chargers and many other teams do this before which is why guys that make the final roster arenāt always guaranteed to keep that spot going into the season. The decision for the chargers would come down to this, by claiming anchrum (he plays RG and RT) you can then cut st. Louis and one of either norton or pipkins, thatās a two for one deal which frees up an additional roster spot somewhere else where the team has more quality depth. So instead of the chargers keeping 4 back up O-line they can keep 3 with jaimes able to fill in at LT and LG, quessenberry able to fill in at C or G, and with anchrum able to fill in at G or RT. Staley has been talking about this position flex stuff all summer. BTW, Anchrum is a 2020 7th rounder so heās not eligible to become a free agent and would be subject to waivers as long as the rams cut him and the chargers put in a claim. Everyone we cut and try to sign to our practice squad will have to clear waivers too.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 18, 2021 12:58:14 GMT -7
Virtually every club is doing what you have written and highlighted in bold black. As far as the specific player you have noted, I would imagine if he is released that there will be competition for his services, so the player decides the situation he likes best. What drives those decisions is varied, might be money, or a chance to start, or win.....or he likes the fancy uniform....or location. God only knows..... TT knows the best way to build the OL is through the draft, and he drafts OL every year. The misses are what has hurt his build more than anything else. I think you misunderstood, Iām not talking about signing anchrum to the practice squad. players that get cut automatically have to clear waivers first before becoming free agents, correct me if Iām wrong. Iām talking about claiming anchrum if he goes thru waivers, if he gets claimed off waivers then he would belong to the chargers. The kicker is that the chargers would have to keep him on the 53 man roster for 3 weeks minimum. thatās the rub, any team claiming him will have to cut someone that would otherwise be on their final cut down roster. Iāve seen the chargers and many other teams do this before which is why guys that make the final roster arenāt always guaranteed to keep that spot going into the season. The decision for the chargers would come down to this, by claiming anchrum (he plays RG and RT) you can then cut st. Louis and one of either norton or pipkins, thatās a two for one deal which frees up an additional roster spot somewhere else where the team has more quality depth. So instead of the chargers keeping 4 back up O-line they can keep 3 with jaimes able to fill in at LT and LG, quessenberry able to fill in at C or G, and with anchrum able to fill in at G or RT. Staley has been talking about this position flex stuff all summer. BTW, Anchrum is a 2020 7th rounder so heās not eligible to become a free agent and would be subject to waivers as long as the rams cut him and the chargers put in a claim. Everyone we cut and try to sign to our practice squad will have to clear waivers too. We're not running short on the Oline so we can keep our 6th Safety for heavens sake. 9 Oline on the roster.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 18, 2021 13:26:02 GMT -7
I think you misunderstood, Iām not talking about signing anchrum to the practice squad. players that get cut automatically have to clear waivers first before becoming free agents, correct me if Iām wrong. Iām talking about claiming anchrum if he goes thru waivers, if he gets claimed off waivers then he would belong to the chargers. The kicker is that the chargers would have to keep him on the 53 man roster for 3 weeks minimum. thatās the rub, any team claiming him will have to cut someone that would otherwise be on their final cut down roster. Iāve seen the chargers and many other teams do this before which is why guys that make the final roster arenāt always guaranteed to keep that spot going into the season. The decision for the chargers would come down to this, by claiming anchrum (he plays RG and RT) you can then cut st. Louis and one of either norton or pipkins, thatās a two for one deal which frees up an additional roster spot somewhere else where the team has more quality depth. So instead of the chargers keeping 4 back up O-line they can keep 3 with jaimes able to fill in at LT and LG, quessenberry able to fill in at C or G, and with anchrum able to fill in at G or RT. Staley has been talking about this position flex stuff all summer. BTW, Anchrum is a 2020 7th rounder so heās not eligible to become a free agent and would be subject to waivers as long as the rams cut him and the chargers put in a claim. Everyone we cut and try to sign to our practice squad will have to clear waivers too. We're not running short on the Oline so we can keep our 6th Safety for heavens sake. 9 Oline on the roster. Short how? You have a player that can fill in at every position along the line. The chargers did this back in the dielman, hardwick, mcneil days too they carried 8 O-line for most of one season, I forget which 2005 or 2006. I know itās not ideal but the idea of losing a valuable WR, CB, or LB just to keep pipkins or norton kind of bothers me. But perhaps youāre right, better to be cautious considering bulagaās track record with injuriesā¦
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 18, 2021 13:34:26 GMT -7
We're not running short on the Oline so we can keep our 6th Safety for heavens sake. 9 Oline on the roster. Short how? You have a player that can fill in at every position along the line. The chargers did this back in the dielman, hardwick, mcneil days too they carried 8 O-line for most of one season, I forget which 2005 or 2006. I know itās not ideal but the idea of losing a valuable WR, CB, or LB just to keep pipkins or norton kind of bothers me. But perhaps youāre right, better to be cautious considering bulagaās track record with injuriesā¦ Perhaps.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 18, 2021 13:38:23 GMT -7
LT Slater..........he kicks guys out on run play's and he's anchoring LT on passes. He is the technician that was advertised.
Keep it up Rookie. Keep our QB clean !!!!!!!!
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 18, 2021 18:58:28 GMT -7
We're not running short on the Oline so we can keep our 6th Safety for heavens sake. 9 Oline on the roster. Short how? You have a player that can fill in at every position along the line. The chargers did this back in the dielman, hardwick, mcneil days too they carried 8 O-line for most of one season, I forget which 2005 or 2006. I know itās not ideal but the idea of losing a valuable WR, CB, or LB just to keep pipkins or norton kind of bothers me. But perhaps youāre right, better to be cautious considering bulagaās track record with injuriesā¦ I think what you have written is something that gets considered, but I also think it is fair to say every club looks at ways to manage their roster in this fashion. Doesn't have to be just OL players, clubs look to keep WR, LB, DL....pretty much any position group they might be stacked in. Making those decisions is why they get paid big dollars......also can be why they get fired.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 19, 2021 8:19:04 GMT -7
Short how? You have a player that can fill in at every position along the line. The chargers did this back in the dielman, hardwick, mcneil days too they carried 8 O-line for most of one season, I forget which 2005 or 2006. I know itās not ideal but the idea of losing a valuable WR, CB, or LB just to keep pipkins or norton kind of bothers me. But perhaps youāre right, better to be cautious considering bulagaās track record with injuriesā¦ I think what you have written is something that gets considered, but I also think it is fair to say every club looks at ways to manage their roster in this fashion. Doesn't have to be just OL players, clubs look to keep WR, LB, DL....pretty much any position group they might be stacked in. Making those decisions is why they get paid big dollars......also can be why they get fired. At some point with a guy like pipkins, you realize you can probably sign someone off the street or some other teamās practice squad thatās going to give you pretty much the same production, so why waste a roster spot? thereās a kid the chargers signed in undrafted rookie free agency this offseason from Cincinnati his name is harper, Iād be willing to bet harper is already as good as pipkins and given a fraction of the resources in coaching and time pipkins has already received this kid would probably beat the pants off of pipkins, Iām not saying heād be worthy of a starting position either but the bar is so low with pipkins itās not hard to find better.
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 19, 2021 18:19:07 GMT -7
I think what you have written is something that gets considered, but I also think it is fair to say every club looks at ways to manage their roster in this fashion. Doesn't have to be just OL players, clubs look to keep WR, LB, DL....pretty much any position group they might be stacked in. Making those decisions is why they get paid big dollars......also can be why they get fired. At some point with a guy like pipkins, you realize you can probably sign someone off the street or some other teamās practice squad thatās going to give you pretty much the same production, so why waste a roster spot? thereās a kid the chargers signed in undrafted rookie free agency this offseason from Cincinnati his name is harper, Iād be willing to bet harper is already as good as pipkins and given a fraction of the resources in coaching and time pipkins has already received this kid would probably beat the pants off of pipkins, Iām not saying heād be worthy of a starting position either but the bar is so low with pipkins itās not hard to find better. My thought is anytime a club is signing a player 'off the street' that does not know their system (Pipkins does obviously), said club really is reaching for a solution. If Pipkins is as bad as you think, he will get cut. If Pipkins does not get cut, perhaps it is your evaluation that is bad. Something to consider.....
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 19, 2021 21:05:34 GMT -7
At some point with a guy like pipkins, you realize you can probably sign someone off the street or some other teamās practice squad thatās going to give you pretty much the same production, so why waste a roster spot? thereās a kid the chargers signed in undrafted rookie free agency this offseason from Cincinnati his name is harper, Iād be willing to bet harper is already as good as pipkins and given a fraction of the resources in coaching and time pipkins has already received this kid would probably beat the pants off of pipkins, Iām not saying heād be worthy of a starting position either but the bar is so low with pipkins itās not hard to find better. My thought is anytime a club is signing a player 'off the street' that does not know their system (Pipkins does obviously), said club really is reaching for a solution. If Pipkins is as bad as you think, he will get cut. If Pipkins does not get cut, perhaps it is your evaluation that is bad. Something to consider..... He has improved from last year but considering the were he started and he too he took a tiny little step so not saying much. He lacks explosion off the snap so defenders allways have him at a disadvantage and he plays smaller than his size, the guy gets overpowered constantly
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