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Post by sdc on Aug 23, 2021 12:42:51 GMT -7
Regarding the struggles of OTs Trey Pipkins and Storm Norton today vs. 49ers, #Chargers coach Brandon Staley said, "I think those two guys got a really accurate picture of where they’re at.” Yep, very accurate picture Wow, that is actually a quote of destruction from Coach Staley. Gloves are off, be accountable, check reality......all concepts that are new to our players. Love that. Told them they suck but in a way to force them to look in the mirror. No team speak, no "we" need to do better. Almost makes it seem that there is a complacency issue or unrealistic self perception. Smacked them right between the eyes. Here's the entire quote which he pretty much doubled down. This Staley guy has a lot going for him.
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Post by moekid on Aug 23, 2021 13:38:37 GMT -7
Wow, that is actually a quote of destruction from Coach Staley. Gloves are off, be accountable, check reality......all concepts that are new to our players. Love that. Told them they suck but in a way to force them to look in the mirror. No team speak, no "we" need to do better. Almost makes it seem that there is a complacency issue or unrealistic self perception. Smacked them right between the eyes. Here's the entire quote which he pretty much doubled down. This Staley guy has a lot going for him. The question becomes what does Staley and TT do with the very accurate picture from yesterday’s game.
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Post by moekid on Aug 23, 2021 13:39:47 GMT -7
Preseason has illuminated our weaknesses. No depth on OL, a need for a good RB, no depth behind Herbert, Nwosu is still a one trick pony, our ST have not improved ^^^This, plus the offensive play calling was horrible. Shanahan kept the book on lombardi from his OC days in Detroit or something. It was ridiculous how bad the play calling was, they knew what we were doing before we did it, running on first down 3 drives in a row? It was abysmal, if coordinators were like players I’d say our special teams and offensive coordinators are both on the chopping block already. It was not a promising exhibition on any front. I would struggle to name a player that actually looked good. Maybe Fackwrell?
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Post by sdc on Aug 23, 2021 13:44:40 GMT -7
Love that. Told them they suck but in a way to force them to look in the mirror. No team speak, no "we" need to do better. Almost makes it seem that there is a complacency issue or unrealistic self perception. Smacked them right between the eyes. Here's the entire quote which he pretty much doubled down. This Staley guy has a lot going for him. The question becomes what does Staley and TT do with the very accurate picture from yesterday’s game. Give them each approximately 24 hours to see if a light comes on and if not cut them. His comments clearly put it on the line. I’m guessing that if he felt both guys were leaving it all on the field he would’ve forgone the double neck punch. He clearly thinks it’s an effort issue.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 23, 2021 15:29:21 GMT -7
^^^This, plus the offensive play calling was horrible. Shanahan kept the book on lombardi from his OC days in Detroit or something. It was ridiculous how bad the play calling was, they knew what we were doing before we did it, running on first down 3 drives in a row? It was abysmal, if coordinators were like players I’d say our special teams and offensive coordinators are both on the chopping block already. It was not a promising exhibition on any front. I would struggle to name a player that actually looked good. Maybe Fackwrell? I thought the defense leaked in the run game against one of the best running game attacks in the NFL, but they were also able to pressure their QBs and were opportunistic on 49er mistakes by getting 3 turnovers. Keep in mind that our 2s played against their #1 offensive line for part of the first half and later their 2s played against some of our 3s on defense. Taking that into account, I thought the defense holding them to 0 points thru most of the first half (the offense gave up a safety) was really good, there were 2 big defensive breakdowns at the end of the first half that were not cool and in the second half our 2nd and 3rd string defense got tired from constantly being on the field against their run attack but overall I thought they were a the bright spot yesterday. fackrell played well, the linebackers played well, lemonier despite a couple penalties got a lot of pressure and at least one sack, the new guy (the OLB) they just picked up #56 had a few pressures. Of the runningbacks I thought bradwell did the best with the awful blocking, he had a couple of powerful runs with limited room to work with and he also made a fantastic adjustment and caught a badly overthrown ball that was behind him for a 2 yard gain. Harper the 3rd string RT from cincinnati I thought had some solid reps, IMO he outplayed both pipkins and norton. Merrill continued to look like a solid pick up even yarbary had a nice decleater on one of the back up 49er RBs. I haven’t gone back and re watched the game, I’ll do it later tonight, but there were some positive things including badleg hitting a perfect 50 yarder that looked like it could’ve been good from 57
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 23, 2021 15:36:34 GMT -7
Love that. Told them they suck but in a way to force them to look in the mirror. No team speak, no "we" need to do better. Almost makes it seem that there is a complacency issue or unrealistic self perception. Smacked them right between the eyes. Here's the entire quote which he pretty much doubled down. This Staley guy has a lot going for him. The question becomes what does Staley and TT do with the very accurate picture from yesterday’s game. If bulaga wasn’t the injury prone player he is, I think they could afford to be more passive, but with things being what they are, I really think they need to make a couple of moves. Not necessarily trades but grabbing one or two guys from waivers would be the right thing to do. Pipkins is not going to improve, norton I’d consider keeping but in the two preseason games he has 4 false start penalties (something he didn’t do last year) 2 were called by the refs and the other 2 the refs missed and didn’t call
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Post by cthommes on Aug 23, 2021 16:21:36 GMT -7
There will be some decent player available off waivers come final cuts, I put the spotlight on one tremayne anchrum from the rams 3rd stringer and potentially already better than bulaga, plus he plays both G spots and T spots! There are probably 15-20 tremayne anchrum types spread out across the NFL that will be cut in the next couple of weeks, but that’s not the issue, the issue is we’ll keep pipkins and norton, cause reasons… That's the guy I want !! You have no idea how nominated, approved, and reported this is.
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 23, 2021 19:22:38 GMT -7
^^^This, plus the offensive play calling was horrible. Shanahan kept the book on lombardi from his OC days in Detroit or something. It was ridiculous how bad the play calling was, they knew what we were doing before we did it, running on first down 3 drives in a row? It was abysmal, if coordinators were like players I’d say our special teams and offensive coordinators are both on the chopping block already. It was not a promising exhibition on any front. I would struggle to name a player that actually looked good. Maybe Fackwrell? Is it fair to acknowledge that there are many contributing factors to what was being seen by fans as poor play? 1's versus 2's......2's versus 3's and so on. OC's calling certain plays to get certain players on tape doing certain responsibilities. DC's doing a similar approach. With an entirely new coaching staff, think of all the interactions going on during a game....there are going to be issues needing to be figured out. These games are all about evaluations, and as a fan, please just make me suffer through only two of these. Keep the same amount of time they use currently to get ready, but just only two of these eval games.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Aug 23, 2021 19:39:25 GMT -7
There will be some decent player available off waivers come final cuts, I put the spotlight on one tremayne anchrum from the rams 3rd stringer and potentially already better than bulaga, plus he plays both G spots and T spots! There are probably 15-20 tremayne anchrum types spread out across the NFL that will be cut in the next couple of weeks, but that’s not the issue, the issue is we’ll keep pipkins and norton, cause reasons… That's the guy I my wife want s !! Fixed it for you.
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 23, 2021 22:18:31 GMT -7
It was not a promising exhibition on any front. I would struggle to name a player that actually looked good. Maybe Fackwrell? Is it fair to acknowledge that there are many contributing factors to what was being seen by fans as poor play? 1's versus 2's......2's versus 3's and so on. OC's calling certain plays to get certain players on tape doing certain responsibilities. DC's doing a similar approach. With an entirely new coaching staff, think of all the interactions going on during a game....there are going to be issues needing to be figured out. These games are all about evaluations, and as a fan, please just make me suffer through only two of these. Keep the same amount of time they use currently to get ready, but just only two of these eval games. Popper made the point that in a regular game, the tackles would have had help (TE’s chipping, etc.). It seemed pretty clear that the coaching staff wanted to see what they have to work with in a meaningless exhibition game by putting the two of them on an island against some very good 49ers defensive linemen. The results weren’t pretty!
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 24, 2021 4:25:28 GMT -7
Is it fair to acknowledge that there are many contributing factors to what was being seen by fans as poor play? 1's versus 2's......2's versus 3's and so on. OC's calling certain plays to get certain players on tape doing certain responsibilities. DC's doing a similar approach. With an entirely new coaching staff, think of all the interactions going on during a game....there are going to be issues needing to be figured out. These games are all about evaluations, and as a fan, please just make me suffer through only two of these. Keep the same amount of time they use currently to get ready, but just only two of these eval games. Popper made the point that in a regular game, the tackles would have had help (TE’s chipping, etc.). It seemed pretty clear that the coaching staff wanted to see what they have to work with in a meaningless exhibition game by putting the two of them on an island against some very good 49ers defensive linemen. The results weren’t pretty! I watch the games over again and I key in certain things, it’s kind of flawed because TV coverage is not like the 22 film but you can still pick up some stuff. I’m not saying popper lied but in the 4rth quarter they started helping pipkins with kampmoyer slowing down the DEs for him, maybe they had seen enough of pipkins on his own?. Popper probably just missed that later on in the game but even with help pipkins was not using his help correctly, the guy looked completely lost out there.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 24, 2021 5:37:28 GMT -7
That's the guy I my wife want s !! Fixed it for you. You have idea about my anatomy. How dare you lump me into your X and Y box.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 24, 2021 5:42:16 GMT -7
You have no idea how nominated, approved, and reported this is. Reported to whom, sir ? TB is MIA. Joe McRugby is lost in Camp World. The goalie evilly, and with meanness attacked woodeye driving him out of here. Reported. Humph !!! It's like the Wild West in here.
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Post by lazylightning on Aug 24, 2021 7:36:02 GMT -7
Is it fair to acknowledge that there are many contributing factors to what was being seen by fans as poor play? 1's versus 2's......2's versus 3's and so on. OC's calling certain plays to get certain players on tape doing certain responsibilities. DC's doing a similar approach. With an entirely new coaching staff, think of all the interactions going on during a game....there are going to be issues needing to be figured out. These games are all about evaluations, and as a fan, please just make me suffer through only two of these. Keep the same amount of time they use currently to get ready, but just only two of these eval games. Popper made the point that in a regular game, the tackles would have had help (TE’s chipping, etc.). It seemed pretty clear that the coaching staff wanted to see what they have to work with in a meaningless exhibition game by putting the two of them on an island against some very good 49ers defensive linemen. The results weren’t pretty! Pretty sure Staley mentioned this in his post game press conference right before his quote regarding their performance.
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Post by moekid on Aug 24, 2021 7:44:46 GMT -7
I caught a few series of the NO/JaX game on Monday night and they were playing at a different speed
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