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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 8, 2021 9:21:43 GMT -7
I guess I’m a chicken little now? Here we go with the name calling and labels again.
For the record I think the chargers should win this game. I just don’t think they’ll come out and put 30 plus on that defense. 20-13 sounds more realistic to me and while we have an unproven coach in the midst of a substantial roster retooling (21 new faces), with an offensive line that has never started an NFL game together yet. I still think guys like herbert, james, bosa, ekeler, allen, and cook are enough to push this game into the win column.
I just haven’t seen this team play yet, so bold predictions seem inappropriate at this time, once we see how this overhauled STs, defense, and offensive line perform I think I’ll have a better ‘feel’ for what they’re capable of. Too many new parts and justin learning the most complex offense in his entire playing career so I just need to see how it all fits together.
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Post by afboltfan on Sept 8, 2021 9:23:29 GMT -7
First game of the season... I'm not expecting huge numbers. I'll say 14/3 Chargers
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Post by sdc on Sept 8, 2021 9:33:17 GMT -7
I guess I’m a chicken little now? Now? I'm not a forum historian so I will not opine on when exactly your chicken littledom began. If being called a chicken little gets your knickers in a twist then I humbly suggest that you follow my lead and go through life commando. I chuckle at the teeth gnashing and hand wringing already in play over Bryan Beluga's tender groin. The season hasn't even started, he hasn't been ruled out yet the CL's have already sounded the dread alarm. I guess it's to be expected that learned helplessness is to be expected from some long term Bolt fans.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 8, 2021 10:04:09 GMT -7
It's a tough game, but you are correct---completely winnable. Now let's team dive into the game, as only a former addicted gambler can. Home field advantage is roughly 3 points. Our game is a pick em. The projection is that we are a playoff team this year. I believe the most important position in all of sports is the QB. So they are giving Herbert an edge over Fitzypoo. There is no discussion that our starting skill positions on offense are better than Washington's. I believe these are the differences in point spread. Freak Super Secret: Home field advantage is a term against road weary teams. It is the first game, so travel tired should not be a factor--no where NEAR a factor of say 3 road games in a row. For somebody that you called a useless poster, I hope my posts helps to enlighten. To be fair, I called you a useless human being. Oh well, that's better.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 8, 2021 10:05:27 GMT -7
I guess I’m a chicken little now? Now? I'm not a forum historian so I will not opine on when exactly your chicken littledom began. If being called a chicken little gets your knickers in a twist then I humbly suggest that you follow my lead and go through life commando. I chuckle at the teeth gnashing and hand wringing already in play over Bryan Beluga's tender groin. The season hasn't even started, he hasn't been ruled out yet the CL's have already sounded the dread alarm. I guess it's to be expected that learned helplessness is to be expected from some long term Bolt fans. Glad the tackle situation doesn’t concern you. The issue isn’t that bulaga is made out of glass or that norton is below average, or that pipkins is not NFL caliber regardless of how bullish the front office is on him. The problem is that all three are on the same team at the same time. If only one was on the team at once it would be less of a concern. BTW, this is also a team that features a rookie LT who hasn’t played significant football since 2019. As for that learned helplessness you describe, I know what it’s like to feel 100% confident in your team, that feeling that they could go to the super bowl. I felt that going into every game knowing fouts, joiner, winslow, muncie, kelcher, johnson, wilkerson, washington, and company were going to find a way to win. I felt that again with humphries, means, seau, o’neal, martin, harmon, pupunu, and company. Then I felt that again with rivers, tomlinson, gates, williams, cromartie, merriman, dielman, castillo, and company. That time hasn’t arrived with this team yet, I feel it’s coming soon, but it’s not here just yet.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 8, 2021 10:05:42 GMT -7
I get that. The have the most talented front 7 in the NFL but they are far from a complete team. The Chargers would be a road dog to at least half the teams in the NFL this week. They are not against WFT. Fitzpatrick is Fitzpatrick. Part Fitzmagic part journeyman playing for his 8th team. Think about that for a second. They dude has played for 25% of the teams in the league. That might be a record. Just trying to keep things in perspective. The chicken littles are already in midseason form. It's a tough game, but you are correct---completely winnable. Now let's team dive into the game, as only a former addicted gambler can. Home field advantage is roughly 3 points. Our game is a pick em. The projection is that we are a playoff team this year. I believe the most important position in all of sports is the QB. So they are giving Herbert an edge over Fitzypoo. There is no discussion that our starting skill positions on offense are better than Washington's. I believe these are the differences in point spread. Freak Super Secret: Home field advantage is a term against road weary teams. It is the first game, so travel tired should not be a factor--no where NEAR a factor of say 3 road games in a row.For somebody that you called a useless poster, I hope my posts helps to enlighten. Subscription level post that Daniel Pooper is not going to give you. You will all have a Bill in your PM's. pay me.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 8, 2021 10:10:21 GMT -7
I guess I’m a chicken little now? go through life commando. I chuckle at the teeth gnashing and hand wringing already in play over Bryan Beluga's tender groin. Absolutely Reported.
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Post by amped on Sept 8, 2021 10:37:31 GMT -7
"We have the best passing offense in the league! We are going to throw the !@$%ing ball down the field" Brandon Staley.
Chargers win this one in a close battle.
35-10
Bolt UP!
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 8, 2021 10:40:41 GMT -7
I guess I’m a chicken little now? I guess it's to be expected that learned helplessness is to be expected from some long term Bolt fans. This leads me to believe you haven’t been a charger fan very long. After 40 years of rooting for my beloved bolts thru having raider fans from norcal purchase the team and the doom and gloom that accompanied them hiring a raider executive to run our bolts and trade our talented players to teams that won superbowls with those guys, I’ve stuck it out thru that, then the ryan leaf era, then the move. There’s been a lot of pain and anguish over those 40 years. But the fun times when we enjoyed 4-5 year stretches of dominance and witnessed hall of famers make history. That by itself has made the journey worthwhile. My secret for sticking with my bolts? I don’t let the lows get me too low and I keep a level head and always make sure I appreciate the ride during the highs and never take any of it for granted. I get that you took a shot at us older fans with your statement which is unfortunate, longtime fans we’ve paid our dues and have come out on the other side, we’re survivors and I’m very proud of that. My only regret is that I’m too young to have witnessed the sid gillman era. With this new herbert era starting, I guess I’ll have to settle for only witnessing 4 outta the 5 great eras in charger history
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Post by sdc on Sept 8, 2021 10:53:42 GMT -7
I guess it's to be expected that learned helplessness is to be expected from some long term Bolt fans. This leads me to believe you haven’t been a charger fan very long. After 40 years of rooting for my beloved bolts thru having raider fans from norcal purchase the team and the doom and gloom that accompanied them hiring a raider executive to run our bolts and trade our talented players to teams that won superbowls with those guys, I’ve stuck it out thru that, then the ryan leaf era, then the move. There’s been a lot of pain and anguish over those 40 years. But the fun times when we enjoyed 4-5 year stretches of dominance and witnessed hall of famers make history. That by itself has made the journey worthwhile. My secret for sticking with my bolts? I don’t let the lows get me too low and I keep a level head and always make sure I appreciate the ride during the highs and never take any of it for granted. I get that you took a shot at us older fans with your statement which is unfortunate, longtime fans we’ve paid our dues and have come out on the other side, we’re survivors and I’m very proud of that. My only regret is that I’m too young to have witnessed the sid gillman era. With this new herbert era starting, I guess I’ll have to settle for only witnessing 4 outta the 5 great eras in charger history I moved from Dayton Ohio to Rancho Bernardo in 1976. What made it easier to transition from being a Bengals fan as a small child (some really good teams that had the misfortune to be in the same division as the Steel Curtain) was Charlie Joiner being traded that same offseason from my old team to my new team. I was here and a young enthusiastic fan and the dawn of Air Coryell. I guess it easy to dismiss other viewpoints. It's called Cognitive Dissonance Reduction. It could also be that some of us fans approach the game as entertainment and not an additional source of stress in a stress filled world.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 8, 2021 11:15:33 GMT -7
This leads me to believe you haven’t been a charger fan very long. After 40 years of rooting for my beloved bolts thru having raider fans from norcal purchase the team and the doom and gloom that accompanied them hiring a raider executive to run our bolts and trade our talented players to teams that won superbowls with those guys, I’ve stuck it out thru that, then the ryan leaf era, then the move. There’s been a lot of pain and anguish over those 40 years. But the fun times when we enjoyed 4-5 year stretches of dominance and witnessed hall of famers make history. That by itself has made the journey worthwhile. My secret for sticking with my bolts? I don’t let the lows get me too low and I keep a level head and always make sure I appreciate the ride during the highs and never take any of it for granted. I get that you took a shot at us older fans with your statement which is unfortunate, longtime fans we’ve paid our dues and have come out on the other side, we’re survivors and I’m very proud of that. My only regret is that I’m too young to have witnessed the sid gillmaera. With this new herbert era starting, I guess I’ll have to settle for only witnessing 4 outta the 5 great eras in charger history I moved from Dayton Ohio to Rancho Bernardo in 1976. What made it easier to transition from being a Bengals fan as a small child (some really good teams that had the misfortune to be in the same division as the Steel Curtain) was Charlie Joiner being traded that same offseason from my old team to my new team. I was here and a young enthusiastic fan and the dawn of Air Coryell. I guess it easy to dismiss other viewpoints. It's called Cognitive Dissonance Reduction. It could also be that some of us fans approach the game as entertainment and not an additional source of stress in a stress filled world. And yet you’re the one resorting to name calling because I feel the offensive tackle situation is a concern. Like I told you on the other post that you didn’t reply to, I am familiar with that confidence of rooting for a winner when you know week in week out you have a legit chance to win. This team is definitely headed there, I just haven’t seen them play yet. I’m not going to apologize for feeling ‘cautiously optimistic’ when others feel this team is well on it’s way already. My cognitive dissonance reduction approach tells me this team is still a year away from being a legitimate contender. But I love watching herbert and company play so much, these guys are so much fun to watch that even if they don’t make the playoffs, I’ll still be interested and watching going into the final game of the year
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Post by sonorajim on Sept 8, 2021 11:31:34 GMT -7
I guess I’m a chicken little now? Here we go with the name calling and labels again. For the record I think the chargers should win this game. I just don’t think they’ll come out and put 30 plus on that defense. 20-13 sounds more realistic to me and while we have an unproven coach in the midst of a substantial roster retooling (21 new faces), with an offensive line that has never started an NFL game together yet. I still think guys like herbert, james, bosa, ekeler, allen, and cook are enough to push this game into the win column. I just haven’t seen this team play yet, so bold predictions seem inappropriate at this time, once we see how this overhauled STs, defense, and offensive line perform I think I’ll have a better ‘feel’ for what they’re capable of. Too many new parts and justin learning the most complex offense in his entire playing career so I just need to see how it all fits together. Participating in the design of our new offense may have helped his learning curve. It's built around him. A lot should come naturally, in theory.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 8, 2021 12:11:36 GMT -7
The only question we should be asking all year long is this :
Why not us ?
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Post by lazylightning on Sept 8, 2021 12:13:40 GMT -7
The Chargers had no problem putting points on the board last year. I do not see it as an issue this year either. Especially with a rebuilt o-line. It was defensive collapse in the second half and special team snafu's that cost games. Staley has made a point to address those failures.
Bolts win 24-14.
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Post by jwr10x on Sept 8, 2021 13:06:30 GMT -7
The Chargers had no problem putting points on the board last year. I do not see it as an issue this year either. Especially with a rebuilt o-line. It was defensive collapse in the second half and special team snafu's that cost games. Staley has made a point to address those failures. Bolts win 24-14. Don't forget the "turtle" Lynn Specialty that allowed the other teams the chance to catch us many times over the last few seasons.
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