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Post by frozendisc on Sept 13, 2021 10:29:57 GMT -7
Staley, and Lombardi, are creating mismatches. KA, MW and Hill (or Guyton) are on the field.....best CB takes KA, next best is taking MW away....then that is leaving 3rd CB/S/LB trying to cover Hill/Guyton. My thought is the talent difference is what is driving those targets. I could be completely off on this, as I barely know the game. You are correct, and I will add----great QB's spread the ball around. Great QB's throw the ball to the open guy, as opposed to forcing it into coverage and getting picked.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2021 10:32:45 GMT -7
You are correct, and I will add----great QB's spread the ball around. Great QB's throw the ball to the open guy, as opposed to forcing it into coverage and getting picked. He is so hot spotting the ball, I'm not sure he gives a crap about coverages. He's making window throws, dare I say, like Mahomes !!!!!
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 13, 2021 10:36:12 GMT -7
Great QB's throw the ball to the open guy, as opposed to forcing it into coverage and getting picked. He is so hot spotting the ball, I'm not sure he gives a crap about coverages. He's making window throws, dare I say, like Mahomes !!!!! Mahomes is seriously overrated..... Take away all those short forward laterals that are being called passes, and his passing stats come down to earth...... Winning is all that matters, and Herbert has no problem challenging any defence for the win!
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 13, 2021 10:42:17 GMT -7
I thought the genius Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence were launching the Jags into orbit, especially considering that they were facing the worst team in the NFL and were favored by 3.5 points. 🤔 I never said they were launching into orbit. You seem obsessed with banging on a 1-15 team. Eh, have it. You do you. They got their ass kicked by a team that will be an underdog in their remaining 16 games!! Houston may still get the first pick in the draft should Meyer win two games in 2021. 51 passes thrown in the game and one reception for 6 yards by a speed guy who is a poor route runner and whose QB has one of the strongest arms in the league. Maybe, just maybe, the Chargers made the right choice in keeping the speed WR who is bigger, runs better routes, and can play special teams but dropped one of the 8 passes that Chargers receivers dropped yesterday. We’ll find out as the season rolls along as there is zero reason why Tyron Johnson shouldn’t shine in the WR-shallow Jags receiving corps given that the top prospect since Andrew Luck will be tossing him the pill.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2021 11:01:12 GMT -7
I never said they were launching into orbit. You seem obsessed with banging on a 1-15 team. Eh, have it. You do you. They got their ass kicked by a team that will be an underdog in their remaining 16 games!! Houston may still get the first pick in the draft should Meyer win two games in 2021. 51 passes thrown in the game and one reception for 6 yards by a speed guy who is a poor route runner and whose QB has one of the strongest arms in the league. Maybe, just maybe, the Chargers made the right choice in keeping the speed WR who is bigger, runs better routes, and can play special teams but dropped one of the 8 passes that Chargers receivers dropped yesterday. We’ll find out as the season rolls along as there is zero reason why Tyron Johnson shouldn’t shine in the WR-shallow Jags receiving corps given that the top prospect since Andrew Luck will be tossing him the pill. I have no idea where all of this is coming from, but here is what I do know: Johnson on the Chargers is better than Johnson on Jax. Keenan Allen on the Chargers is going to be better than KA on Jax. That's just how it works, sorry you don't know enough about it. I didn't make the drop in the endzone. Guyton did. The goalie would have caught that ball in the endzone.
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 13, 2021 11:13:52 GMT -7
They got their ass kicked by a team that will be an underdog in their remaining 16 games!! Houston may still get the first pick in the draft should Meyer win two games in 2021. 51 passes thrown in the game and one reception for 6 yards by a speed guy who is a poor route runner and whose QB has one of the strongest arms in the league. Maybe, just maybe, the Chargers made the right choice in keeping the speed WR who is bigger, runs better routes, and can play special teams but dropped one of the 8 passes that Chargers receivers dropped yesterday. We’ll find out as the season rolls along as there is zero reason why Tyron Johnson shouldn’t shine in the WR-shallow Jags receiving corps given that the top prospect since Andrew Luck will be tossing him the pill. I have no idea where all of this is coming from, but here is what I do know: Johnson on the Chargers is better than Johnson on Jax. Keenan Allen on the Chargers is going to be better than KA on Jax. That's just how it works, sorry you don't know enough about it. I didn't make the drop in the endzone. Guyton did. The goalie would have caught that ball in the endzone. You, Freak, are arguing that the player's talent is better on this team versus that team, which is wrong. The talent is the exact same, it is the ability of differing teams to be able to exploit the talent that changes from team to team. So the concept of being "better" is merely an example of the ability to exploit the players talent..... better.
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Post by afboltfan on Sept 13, 2021 11:27:10 GMT -7
I love Palmer, but he had one catch buddy. Guyton dropping a TD pass in the endzone did not have me saying Johnson who. Butterfingers were shared by MW & KA, clearly TJ was our best WR. Sarcasm aside, Guyton had a good game. Not perfect, good.
That was a very tough catch in the end zone.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2021 11:27:31 GMT -7
I have no idea where all of this is coming from, but here is what I do know: Johnson on the Chargers is better than Johnson on Jax. Keenan Allen on the Chargers is going to be better than KA on Jax. That's just how it works, sorry you don't know enough about it. I didn't make the drop in the endzone. Guyton did. The goalie would have caught that ball in the endzone. You, Freak, are arguing that the player's talent is better on this team versus that team, which is wrong. The talent is the exact same, it is the ability of differing teams to be able to exploit the talent that changes from team to team.So the concept of being "better" is merely an example of the ability to exploit the players talent..... better. Its more specific than "exploit", which is really broad. You know the factors. Same QB ?, Better Oline, better offense scheme, better RB's like Ekeler to open the passing game, better WR's on the field to take attention away from you, SO many factors.
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 13, 2021 11:38:26 GMT -7
You, Freak, are arguing that the player's talent is better on this team versus that team, which is wrong. The talent is the exact same, it is the ability of differing teams to be able to exploit the talent that changes from team to team.So the concept of being "better" is merely an example of the ability to exploit the players talent..... better.Its more specific than "exploit", which is really broad. You know the factors. Same QB ?, Better Oline, better offense scheme, better RB's like Ekeler to open the passing game, better WR's on the field to take attention away from you, SO many factors. Absolutely...... The goalie's talent in stopping the puck is a constant in that sea of variables, all of which impact the results.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2021 12:29:28 GMT -7
OUR WAY !!!!
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2021 12:44:46 GMT -7
When Asante Samuel and Kyzir White are getting after your ass, you are going to cough it up.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 13, 2021 13:00:12 GMT -7
Succinct and to the point.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2021 13:02:12 GMT -7
Justin Herbert had 52 dropbacks yesterday. Here are the pressures allowed by the #Chargers OL: Slater - ZERO!!!! Feiler - 3 (initial report had him at 2 but the final report added one) Linsley - 0 Aboushi - 0 Bulaga - 1 (30 reps) Norton - 1 (22 reps)
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2021 13:03:47 GMT -7
Succinct and to the point. Staley has changed his game. You can just see it. I love what I saw yesterday. MW had 8 catches !! That is a Career High for him !
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 13, 2021 14:24:48 GMT -7
Historical context of the third down conversions yesterday: Some historical context for you: • Herbert is just the fifth QB since 1991 to covert 12 or more third downs through the air in a game. • The Chargers’ 73.68 percent third-down conversion rate is the highest among any team since 1991 to face 19 or more third downs in a single game. Some additional context for you: • Allen actually earned a third-down conversion in the second quarter when he beat Jackson on a whip route and drew a pass interference. This does not show up in the box score but is equally as impactful. “I was in my groove,” Allen said. • The Chargers’ 19th third down of the game was Herbert’s final kneel down. So it was really 14-of-18 on third down. • Allen had an uncharacteristic third-down drop in the second quarter that forced Tristan Vizcaino onto the field for one of his two field goals. When asked about this drop after the game, Allen grabbed and shook the lectern and started growling. “I wanted to start the whole season over,” he joked. The Chargers could have been even more efficient. Said Herbert: “14 of 19 is unheard of.” theathletic.com/2822403/2021/09/12/fourth-quarter-team-4-takeaways-from-chargers-20-16-win-over-washington/
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