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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 2, 2021 4:37:31 GMT -7
Careful, you said the new oline would make the RB's look good. You were dead wrong. Face it and admit it. Do you know our 2nd and 3rd string RB's total yards are in the 20"s. 20's !!!! For total yards each. They have a combined number of 20 attempts... are you basing your evaluation on 20 combined attempts...? You wanted a top tier RB (1st/2nd round). Which player would you have forgone...? Slater...? Samuels...? I like 3rd round for RB. I asked for free agent too. It’s a matter of a couple of us wanting RB on here and the rest saying we were fine. We are not.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 2, 2021 7:42:13 GMT -7
How are the Steeler fans enjoying their shiny, new RB... behind that gawd aweful OL...? All of those offensive weapons going to waste. Sad.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 2, 2021 7:47:29 GMT -7
As far as our team...
Better start using Jackson, Roundtree, and Kelly more. Especially in the redzone. We don't have to run them straight up the gut. There are no rules against running an outside zone in the redzone. Let the hogs feed. Keep Eke fresh all season long. Makes no sense to limp into the playoffs.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 2, 2021 7:56:49 GMT -7
As far as our team... Better start using Jackson, Roundtree, and Kelly more. Especially in the redzone. We don't have to run them straight up the gut. There are no rules against running an outside zone in the redzone. Let the hogs feed. Keep Eke fresh all season long. Makes no sense to limp into the playoffs. I am wary of balance just to be......the running has to be strategic. This is clearly a pass first scheme, so just a few running plays at the correct time should suffice wonderfully.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 2, 2021 8:25:01 GMT -7
As far as our team... Better start using Jackson, Roundtree, and Kelly more. Especially in the redzone. We don't have to run them straight up the gut. There are no rules against running an outside zone in the redzone. Let the hogs feed. Keep Eke fresh all season long. Makes no sense to limp into the playoffs. I am wary of balance just to be...... the running has to be strategic. This is clearly a pass first scheme, so just a few running plays at the correct time should suffice wonderfully. I agree. Specifically, I'd like to see more rushing attempts in the redzone. They only ran once (out 13 plays) against the Cowboys. You saw Cowboys LB's and safeties flood passing lanes (in an already condensed redzone area). They ran 5 or 6 times (out of 14-15) in the redzone against the Chiefs. They didn't have a ton of success running the ball in the redzone against the Chiefs... but it brought LB's up and created more space for the plays that they did call passing plays.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 2, 2021 8:36:08 GMT -7
I am wary of balance just to be...... the running has to be strategic. This is clearly a pass first scheme, so just a few running plays at the correct time should suffice wonderfully. I agree. Specifically, I'd like to see more rushing attempts in the redzone. They only ran once (out 13 plays) against the Cowboys. You saw Cowboys LB's and safeties flood passing lanes (in an already condensed redzone area). They ran 5 or 6 times (out of 14-15) in the redzone against the Chiefs. They didn't have a ton of success running the ball in the redzone against the Chiefs... but it brought LB's up and created more space for the plays that they did call passing plays. The change implies a recognition from Lombardi, an adjustment from game to game, but I would like to see the adjustment earlier. Don't be forced into the run game, but don't let the defence overly play the pass.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 7, 2021 8:58:25 GMT -7
Bump.
Chargers scored TD's on all 4 trips to the redzone vs. the Raiders. 7 rushing attempts vs 6 passing attempts. Just saying...
Create more room for your QB... and those passes in the redzone become TD's rather than interceptions, sacks, and false starts.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 7, 2021 9:31:16 GMT -7
Bump. Chargers scored TD's on all 4 trips to the redzone vs. the Raiders. 7 rushing attempts vs 6 passing attempts. Just saying... Create more room for your QB... and those passes in the redzone become TD's rather than interceptions, sacks, and false starts. More time ?
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Post by boltnut on Oct 7, 2021 10:31:34 GMT -7
Bump. Chargers scored TD's on all 4 trips to the redzone vs. the Raiders. 7 rushing attempts vs 6 passing attempts. Just saying... Create more room for your QB... and those passes in the redzone become TD's rather than interceptions, sacks, and false starts. More time ? More room. The LB's have to come up and respect the run. This creates more room (opens passing lanes) behind the LB's. The room available for WR's and TE's in the endzone was remarkably different the Raiders' game vs the Cowboys' game. Staley specifically used the term "more room" in his recent presser. Keeping DL honest inevitably will happen as well... creating "more time" also.
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Post by joemcrugby on Oct 7, 2021 10:50:22 GMT -7
More room. The LB's have to come up and respect the run. This creates more room (opens passing lanes) behind the LB's. The room available for WR's and TE's in the endzone was remarkably different the Raiders' game vs the Cowboys' game. Staley specifically used the term "more room" in his recent presser. Keeping DL honest inevitably will happen as well... creating "more time" also. More room really doesn’t apply to the red zone as room is greatly compressed. I think the reason why they are running more in the red zone is twofold: (1) Not repeating the error in Game 2 where they scored on a pass on first down, then being moved back to the 9 yard line in a game where the run game was struggling all game long whenever it was attempted, and (2) the offensive line is really starting to operate as a run-blocking unit after never playing together during the preseason (three of the starting five didn’t play a snap). Now that the oline is making holes to run through, their playbook opens up in the red zone. If the oline continues to improve as a run blocking unit, the Chargers offense is in an ideal situation: as you have noted, a run game gives the passing game space & time. However, as we learned from the last few years getting stuffed on a run on 1st & 10 or 1st & goal from the 9 puts you in a must pass situation where the dline can tee off. 🍺
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 7, 2021 11:44:51 GMT -7
More room. The LB's have to come up and respect the run. This creates more room (opens passing lanes) behind the LB's. The room available for WR's and TE's in the endzone was remarkably different the Raiders' game vs the Cowboys' game. Staley specifically used the term "more room" in his recent presser. Keeping DL honest inevitably will happen as well... creating "more time" also. More room really doesn’t apply to the red zone as room is greatly compressed. I think the reason why they are running more in the red zone is twofold: (1) Not repeating the error in Game 2 where they scored on a pass on first down, then being moved back to the 9 yard line in a game where the run game was struggling all game long whenever it was attempted, and (2) the offensive line is really starting to operate as a run-blocking unit after never playing together during the preseason (three of the starting five didn’t play a snap). Now that the oline is making holes to run through, their playbook opens up in the red zone. If the oline continues to improve as a run blocking unit, the Chargers offense is in an ideal situation: as you have noted, a run game gives the passing game space & time. However, as we learned from the last few years getting stuffed on a run on 1st & 10 or 1st & goal from the 9 puts you in a must pass situation where the dline can tee off. 🍺 Coach Staley had some great comments about the importance of running the ball. I am paraphrasing, but he talked about the physicality it takes to defend. He said in a pass the defense has to do one thing--tackle the ball carrier. But in the run you have to do two things: take on the blocks AND tackle. Which explains the term "A team gets tired by the end of a game against a running team." Or the term "Pound the rock." I am explaining bad, he explained great, and it was very unique how he put it.
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