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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 20, 2021 7:04:00 GMT -7
True story: We had the ball around the goaline. 3rd and 4. My son says "What do you think ?" Me: I'm scared. Son: Why ? Me: We have a young QB who is fearless and has not learned to throw the ball away, that's why. Next play Interception in the endzone. Son: How do you do that ? Me: I know our players. That shit has to stop. Coaching has to teach him to throw the ball away. That was a FG gone, which was the difference in the game. Honestly why I don't understand the young coach fad... Seems like common sense, is it even taught anymore? How many of these HC's under 45 have won a Superbowl recently? Folks said the same thing when tom landry and don shula were hired, I think shula was 33 and la dry was 35 at the time. The young coach thing is nothing new I beleive john madden was younger than staley, chuck noll was also 37 when he took over pittsburg
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 20, 2021 7:05:02 GMT -7
True story: We had the ball around the goaline. 3rd and 4. My son says "What do you think ?" Me: I'm scared. Son: Why ? Me: We have a young QB who is fearless and has not learned to throw the ball away, that's why. Next play Interception in the endzone. Son: How do you do that ? Me: I know our players. That shit has to stop. Coaching has to teach him to throw the ball away. That was a FG gone, which was the difference in the game. It was a timing route and keenan got tripped by kearse and the refs didn’t throw a flag, there is no way to throw the ball away on a timing route, he’s throwing the ball to a spot and the receiver is supposed to be there, unless someone trips him and the refs don’t call it. The sideline judge had a clear view of what happened he was less than 25-30 feet away with nothing between him and the trip. A) The big leaguers do it B) Forget that play, he never throws it away. C) It HAS to be taught at this point. Hell he ran straight backwards 50 yards, got a phantom mystery sack called, and he STILL wasn't throwing the ball away. No. When I tell you it's time to be taught, I mean its time to be taught. Not time to type excuses. Time to be taught. Never doubt me.
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Post by NYBOLTFAN1 on Sept 20, 2021 7:06:55 GMT -7
I like Herbert, he's going to be a good QB in the future. But in all honesty, the Chargers should have grabbed Tom Brady. Yeah, he's 44 years old but the guy plays like he's 20 and just flat out wins. This team could have used his leadership, great players elevate teams. We could be in the running for a Superbowl this year. But instead we are now headed for the last place again, after KC beats the Chargers next week that is. The excuses for this organization is old. Second fiddle to the Rams, bunking up in a city that prefers the Raiders. What a complete disaster once again.. Welcome back ? Thanks, I was never really gone. I hang around like the latest Covid variant..
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 20, 2021 7:17:13 GMT -7
It was a timing route and keenan got tripped by kearse and the refs didn’t throw a flag, there is no way to throw the ball away on a timing route, he’s throwing the ball to a spot and the receiver is supposed to be there, unless someone trips him and the refs don’t call it. The sideline judge had a clear view of what happened he was less than 25-30 feet away with nothing between him and the trip. A) The big leaguers do it B) Forget that play, he never throws it away. C) It HAS to be taught at this point. Hell he ran straight backwards 50 yards, got a phantom mystery sack called, and he STILL wasn't throwing the ball away. No. When I tell you it's time to be taught, I mean its time to be taught. Not time to type excuses. Time to be taught. Never doubt me. Yes, on the back peddle phantom sack thing he screwed up for sure, he should’ve thrown it away before the pressure even started because he’d already held for 4-5 seconds by then. It was his 17th game in the NFL and it showed. last week he threw it out of the back ofmthe endzone on a couple of occassions maybe the coaches told him not to give up on plays so soon? Who knows
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 20, 2021 7:33:53 GMT -7
A) The big leaguers do it B) Forget that play, he never throws it away. C) It HAS to be taught at this point. Hell he ran straight backwards 50 yards, got a phantom mystery sack called, and he STILL wasn't throwing the ball away. No. When I tell you it's time to be taught, I mean its time to be taught. Not time to type excuses. Time to be taught. Never doubt me. Yes, on the back peddle phantom sack thing he screwed up for sure, he should’ve thrown it away before the pressure even started because he’d already held for 4-5 seconds by then. It was his 17th game in the NFL and it showed. last week he threw it out of the back ofmthe endzone on a couple of occassions maybe the coaches told him not to give up on plays so soon? Who knows I do.
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Post by moekid on Sept 20, 2021 7:53:54 GMT -7
We need an RB.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 20, 2021 8:02:42 GMT -7
Ekeler averaged 6 yards a carry on 9 carries jackson averaged 5.2 yards a carry on 4 carries roundtree got one carry for -1 yards we could’ve had LT yesterday for all the good it would’ve done if our OC gives him only 14 carries for 74 yards. I’m old school, if a team can’t stop your run game you keep running until they do I think our backs did their job on limited opportunities and inside the ten they didn’t get to run one in, why? Staley himself alluded to this in the presser.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 20, 2021 8:04:19 GMT -7
pretty nice having Elliot AND Pollard, eh ? I was attacked all summer long for saying so. I remember. They hide now. REACT TO HIDING !!!!!
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 20, 2021 8:11:17 GMT -7
pretty nice having Elliot AND Pollard, eh ? I was attacked all summer long for saying so. I remember. They hide now. REACT TO HIDING !!!!! Our nacks combined for 74yarss on 14 carries 5.3 yard average, zeke by himself got 16 touches for 71 yards and 4.4 yard average. So the question wasn’t quality yesterday, it was quantity. our RBs were not given enough opportunities to run
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 20, 2021 8:42:37 GMT -7
pretty nice having Elliot AND Pollard, eh ? I was attacked all summer long for saying so. I remember. They hide now. REACT TO HIDING !!!!! Our nacks combined for 74yarss on 14 carries 5.3 yard average, zeke by himself got 16 touches for 71 yards and 4.4 yard average. So the question wasn’t quality yesterday, it was quantity. our RBs were not given enough opportunities to run Sounds like excuses for where we are clearly lacking. If Ekeler is out, we are out. Gotta have two. The winners did.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 20, 2021 8:45:27 GMT -7
pretty nice having Elliot AND Pollard, eh ? I was attacked all summer long for saying so. I remember. They hide now. REACT TO HIDING !!!!! Our nacks combined for 74yarss on 14 carries 5.3 yard average, zeke by himself got 16 touches for 71 yards and 4.4 yard average. So the question wasn’t quality yesterday, it was quantity. our RBs were not given enough opportunities to run Since you love averages, Roundtree average negative 1 yard.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 20, 2021 9:02:13 GMT -7
Our nacks combined for 74yarss on 14 carries 5.3 yard average, zeke by himself got 16 touches for 71 yards and 4.4 yard average. So the question wasn’t quality yesterday, it was quantity. our RBs were not given enough opportunities to run Since you love averages, Roundtree average negative 1 yard. And ekeler averaged 6 yards and was only given 9 carries and jackson averaged 5.2 and only got 4 carries had our RBs not been effective I could understand the let’s go get a RB thing but they were effective and just didn’t get the opportunities even tho they clearly ‘earned’ the right to carry more times. why did the OC go away from the run game? we weren’t down by 30, our two top backs were getting over 5 yards a carry, and neither guy fumbled. This was clearly a playcalling issue, lombardi like a lot of new OCs overthink it and don’t maintain balance in the offense. running the ball an additional ten times might’ve resulted in a win and perhaps kept herbert from getting hit so many times
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 20, 2021 9:09:54 GMT -7
I thought lombardi came up with a really nice plan for the washington game, but for dallas, I think he really botched it, he put too much on herbert and didn’t help norton as much as they should’ve, it’s almost as if he got complacent because dallas was missing it’s two defensive ends. Norton should not have faced parson alone, maybe once or twice but once it was obvious he couldn’t handle his quickness then the plan should’ve been modified to help norton. Herbert took a beating out there
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Post by afboltfan on Sept 20, 2021 9:12:57 GMT -7
We need a RT and we need to give the RB more carries, Staley and Lombardi is relying on Herbert's arm way too much...
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 20, 2021 9:13:21 GMT -7
I don’t disagree with you guys that this team could use a premier back and should feature ekeler as a change of pace guy like sproles was to LT back in the day. But the backs actually had a good game yesterday, they just didn’t get used so basically they weren’t the problem against dallas.
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