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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 28, 2021 20:36:24 GMT -7
Watching some film today it looked to me on one play that Herbert looked right past a wide open Guyten to toss one to KA in traffic. The trust is there with Keenan. Guyton hasn’t earned it.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 28, 2021 20:52:27 GMT -7
Watching some film today it looked to me on one play that Herbert looked right past a wide open Guyten to toss one to KA in traffic. The trust is there with Keenan. Guyton hasn’t earned it. If he keeps dropping TDs, herbert is going to look away from him a lot more going forward.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 29, 2021 4:57:34 GMT -7
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 5:25:00 GMT -7
I cannot figure out how Palmer dominated preseason and Guyton is getting playing time over him.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 5:29:13 GMT -7
Justin should have kept walking to after Mahomes "I'll see it when I believe it." comment this summer. Screw them. We don't need their fake platitudes. All we need is for them to show up in our second game IN LA and get the shit kicked out of them once more.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 29, 2021 6:18:08 GMT -7
It kinda seems like herbert is avoiding him there, LOL. Not saying he was but it was funny that patrick had to go chase him down like that. Patrick could do with getting knocked down a peg or two, I like the kid, but his arrogance can be tough to swallow. Like when he said, “I guess” I beilieve it, that still doesn’t sound like he’s convinced. He should’ve never said it to begin with, I know herbert would never say something like that. But when he’s confronted after the game he should’ve said “I believe it and I see it” without any guessing involved.
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 29, 2021 6:28:25 GMT -7
I cannot figure out how Palmer dominated preseason and Guyton is getting playing time over him. I’ve been wondering the same.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 29, 2021 6:44:05 GMT -7
I cannot figure out how Palmer dominated preseason and Guyton is getting playing time over him. They’re giving palmer time to learn the system, ironically the mistakes that the team might’ve feared palmer might make are being committed by guyton right now. I say put him in over guyton and let him start developing under fire. It would be nice if palmer is more ‘seasoned’ come playoff time and I’d rather he gets time over guyton now rather than getting put in because someone is injured. I say he should start biting into guyton’s reps more or just replace him altogether.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 29, 2021 6:44:08 GMT -7
I cannot figure out how Palmer dominated preseason and Guyton is getting playing time over him. I’ve been wondering the same. Crazier still: Herbert throwing it to Guyton on the most important play of the game (4th & 9 with a minute left) where an incompletion / drop gives Mahomes the ball near midfield in a tie game. Justin must have a screw loose to have any more confidence in him than our esteemed board does. My guess is that any non-decision between Guyton & Palmer is likely due to Palmer having played the MDub position (i.e., the Michael Thomas position) during the preseason. Perhaps they are working with Palmer at the #3 slot in practice should Guyton continue the drops. 🤷♂️
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Post by totallybolted on Sept 29, 2021 6:46:07 GMT -7
It was only a difficult contested catch because Guyton misplayed it His adjustment to the ball was atrocious, if he doesn’t stop and scrunch up to receive impact he could have curled in to his left and #49 would’ve missed him entirely by half a yard while he himself would’ve been lined up correctly with the ball. His receiver instincts and hand use during the catch really call in to question what his overall potential will be. I’ve seen guys improve in those departments before but he’s in year what, 3 or 4? You’d like to see him be further along by now. I’m not saying he’s a coward, but he doesn’t seem to have that dawg in him. He doesn’t fight for balls talk about arm chair....there are several too. The bolts won a very contested game verse a very good football team, IN THEIR HOUSE. And what do we do? bitch about 1 play and 1 player as if we really know him, the play, the responsibility, all happening in seconds, and all better than the coaching staff. he is playing for a reason. I would bet it isn't because the coaches don't see what you see, or because they are hoping for potential to show up. I get that one play changes the outcome. but that outcome is only the final score. there is a lot more to happy about than there is to moan. No Freak. not that moan.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 29, 2021 7:03:23 GMT -7
I’ve been wondering the same. Crazier still: Herbert throwing it to Guyton on the most important play of the game (4th & 9 with a minute left) where an incompletion / drop gives Mahomes the ball near midfield in a tie game. Justin must have a screw loose to have any more confidence in him than our esteemed board does. My guess is that any non-decision between Guyton & Palmer is likely due to Palmer having played the MDub position (i.e., the Michael Thomas position) during the preseason. Perhaps they are working with Palmer at the #3 slot in practice should Guyton continue the drops. 🤷♂️ That’s a great point, I forgot that palmer was the contingency plan to replace MWs, but things have changed since MWs has blossomed under lombardi and is finally fulfilling his potential. So why not pivot and use palmer in a different role now? Is it bad to have him learn multiple positions? Maybe it’s too much to throw at the rookie? IDK but it would be nice to see the best players out there together at the same time.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 7:31:12 GMT -7
I’ve been wondering the same. Crazier still: Herbert throwing it to Guyton on the most important play of the game (4th & 9 with a minute left) where an incompletion / drop gives Mahomes the ball near midfield in a tie game. Justin must have a screw loose to have any more confidence in him than our esteemed board does. My guess is that any non-decision between Guyton & Palmer is likely due to Palmer having played the MDub position (i.e., the Michael Thomas position) during the preseason. Perhaps they are working with Palmer at the #3 slot in practice should Guyton continue the drops. 🤷♂️ It's kind of smart if you think about it. 4th and 9, Guyton is the last guy you are covering....................... There is no way I would have Guyton out there over Palmer. I know the staff knows what they are doing, but c'mon. The kid earned his stripes in pre-season. Our two stars are 7 foot tall and have great hands. Why not have 3 of them out there at the same time ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 7:33:51 GMT -7
His adjustment to the ball was atrocious, if he doesn’t stop and scrunch up to receive impact he could have curled in to his left and #49 would’ve missed him entirely by half a yard while he himself would’ve been lined up correctly with the ball. His receiver instincts and hand use during the catch really call in to question what his overall potential will be. I’ve seen guys improve in those departments before but he’s in year what, 3 or 4? You’d like to see him be further along by now. I’m not saying he’s a coward, but he doesn’t seem to have that dawg in him. He doesn’t fight for balls talk about arm chair....there are several too. The bolts won a very contested game verse a very good football team, IN THEIR HOUSE. And what do we do? bitch about 1 play and 1 player as if we really know him, the play, the responsibility, all happening in seconds, and all better than the coaching staff. he is playing for a reason. I would bet it isn't because the coaches don't see what you see, or because they are hoping for potential to show up. I get that one play changes the outcome. but that outcome is only the final score. there is a lot more to happy about than there is to moan. No Freak. not that moan. I like moaning. Guyton is a hell of a lot more than 1 play. Or else I wouldn't say anything.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 7:41:16 GMT -7
Adderley: I'm a ball hawk free safety. But I'm not getting a ton of throws to pick.
Staff: Just go out there and knock the shit out of the ball carriers.
Adderley: Ok.
SET THE TONE. OUR WAY. Tranquil and Adderley look like assassins out there !!! Our Time.
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 29, 2021 7:41:34 GMT -7
I’ve been wondering the same. Crazier still: Herbert throwing it to Guyton on the most important play of the game (4th & 9 with a minute left) where an incompletion / drop gives Mahomes the ball near midfield in a tie game. Justin must have a screw loose to have any more confidence in him than our esteemed board does. My guess is that any non-decision between Guyton & Palmer is likely due to Palmer having played the MDub position (i.e., the Michael Thomas position) during the preseason. Perhaps they are working with Palmer at the #3 slot in practice should Guyton continue the drops. 🤷♂️ I think Staley’s culture certainly plays a part in that play. But I’m not sure it wasn’t in part need/based—if he didn’t throw it and bet on Guyton, it’s over. 0.01 > 0.
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