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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 29, 2021 7:53:51 GMT -7
I like frozen and believe he adds perspective that I appreciate. I’m just not going to debate the validity of my feelings when the point I’m making is something that’s true to me (i.e. teams can be better than their record/standings and other teams with better record/standings, though the game doesn’t select for that).
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 29, 2021 8:07:33 GMT -7
I like frozen and believe he adds perspective that I appreciate. I’m just not going to debate the validity of my feelings when the point I’m making is something that’s true to me (i.e. teams can be better than their record/standings and other teams with better record/standings, though the game doesn’t select for that). Nobody is demeaning your feelings, nor are they ignored.....as I posted. "The aspect you are embracing is the one that creates interest, fans, debate......sells the game. There are so many cliché statements....'the better team lost today', 'this team is better than its' record' etc etc......"
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 29, 2021 8:17:18 GMT -7
I like frozen and believe he adds perspective that I appreciate. I’m just not going to debate the validity of my feelings when the point I’m making is something that’s true to me (i.e. teams can be better than their record/standings and other teams with better record/standings, though the game doesn’t select for that). Nobody is demeaning your feelings, nor are they ignored.....as I posted. "The aspect you are embracing is the one that creates interest, fans, debate......sells the game. There are so many cliché statements....'the better team lost today', 'this team is better than its' record' etc etc......" I didn’t take your comments as demeaning. I said that my comments were independently valid to me as an expression of my feelings about how to measure the game beyond the game.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 29, 2021 8:25:10 GMT -7
Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled up a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense.
I believe the chargers can and will beat the raiders but it’s going to be a dogfight. Who knows what the final outcome might be, but I’m expecting a nail biter with the chargers pulling out a close game.
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Post by lazylightning on Sept 29, 2021 9:29:18 GMT -7
One thing to keep in mind. It’s easily possible that the Chargers are the best team in the AFC West right now. I bet every one of those teams will have a different ranking at end of regular season.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 29, 2021 10:24:29 GMT -7
Hot headline just came over the wire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The raiders suck No matter how good or bad (hopefully very bad) the Raiduhs are every season, I agree with the sentiment: The Raiduhs suck!!!
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 29, 2021 10:56:04 GMT -7
Hot headline just came over the wire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The raiders suck No matter how good or bad (hopefully very bad) the Raiduhs are every season, I agree with the sentiment: The Raiduhs suck!!! Everything they stand for sucks, but we need to respect the team on the field and I’m sure our players will. And also hopefully this year the refs don’t let crosby give herbert a ‘deacon jones’ type head slap that almost knocked him out of the game again. That dude is a nasty and underrated player but the dirty stuff needs to get flagged! Watch after herbert releases the TD pass to ekeler and you’ll see maxx chop him with his long as arm on the right side of herbert’s head, knocked him silly, it took herbert a moment to get off the ground.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 29, 2021 11:05:28 GMT -7
No matter how good or bad (hopefully very bad) the Raiduhs are every season, I agree with the sentiment: The Raiduhs suck!!! Everything they stand for sucks, but we need to respect the team on the field and I’m sure our players will. And also hopefully this year the refs don’t let crosby give herbert a ‘deacon jones’ type head slap that almost knocked him out of the game again. That dude is a nasty and underrated player but the dirty stuff needs to get flagged! Watch after herbert releases the TD pass to ekeler and you’ll see maxx chop him with his long as arm on the right side of herbert’s head, knocked him silly, it took herbert a moment to get off the ground. The team absolutely needs to respect them. Myself as a fan, not so much! 😛 Hopefully Herbert is edging into the territory where reffing crews are going to be keeping a closer eye out for him in respect to cheap shots as being a valuable NFL asset going forward.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 11:16:18 GMT -7
Everything they stand for sucks, but we need to respect the team on the field and I’m sure our players will. And also hopefully this year the refs don’t let crosby give herbert a ‘deacon jones’ type head slap that almost knocked him out of the game again. That dude is a nasty and underrated player but the dirty stuff needs to get flagged! Watch after herbert releases the TD pass to ekeler and you’ll see maxx chop him with his long as arm on the right side of herbert’s head, knocked him silly, it took herbert a moment to get off the ground. The team absolutely needs to respect them. Myself as a fan, not so much! 😛 Hopefully Herbert is edging into the territory where reffing crews are going to be keeping a closer eye out for him in respect to cheap shots as being a valuable NFL asset going forward. I'm sure Adderley and Tranquil will respect them while they are pile driving their eye patched faces into the turf. I won't. But they might.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 11:18:18 GMT -7
Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled up a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense. I believe the chargers can and will beat the raiders but it’s going to be a dogfight. Who knows what the final outcome might be, but I’m expecting a nail biter with the chargers pulling out a close game. They can go 17-0 and will always suck.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 29, 2021 11:23:53 GMT -7
I like frozen and believe he adds perspective that I appreciate. I’m just not going to debate the validity of my feelings when the point I’m making is something that’s true to me (i.e. teams can be better than their record/standings and other teams with better record/standings, though the game doesn’t select for that). that's right about where I checked out of the post.
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Post by afboltfan on Sept 29, 2021 11:31:27 GMT -7
I like frozen and believe he adds perspective that I appreciate. I’m just not going to debate the validity of my feelings when the point I’m making is something that’s true to me (i.e. teams can be better than their record/standings and other teams with better record/standings, though the game doesn’t select for that). I agree matchups are huge... We "should" have beat Dallas but we "Should" have lost to KC. One thing those win/loss tell me is that Dallas has a better offense than the Chiefs, I truly believe that. Dak Prescott > Patrick Mahomes.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 29, 2021 11:57:07 GMT -7
Everything they stand for sucks, but we need to respect the team on the field and I’m sure our players will. And also hopefully this year the refs don’t let crosby give herbert a ‘deacon jones’ type head slap that almost knocked him out of the game again. That dude is a nasty and underrated player but the dirty stuff needs to get flagged! Watch after herbert releases the TD pass to ekeler and you’ll see maxx chop him with his long as arm on the right side of herbert’s head, knocked him silly, it took herbert a moment to get off the ground. The team absolutely needs to respect them. Myself as a fan, not so much! 😛 Hopefully Herbert is edging into the territory where reffing crews are going to be keeping a closer eye out for him in respect to cheap shots as being a valuable NFL asset going forward.I wouldn’t count on that, Dean is not part of the inner circle of owners with that type of power, I thought that would be the case with Philip and look how that turned out.
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Post by sdc on Sept 29, 2021 14:58:35 GMT -7
Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled up a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense. I believe the chargers can and will beat the raiders but it’s going to be a dogfight. Who knows what the final outcome might be, but I’m expecting a nail biter with the chargers pulling out a close game. Raiders suck.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 30, 2021 5:28:41 GMT -7
Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled up a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense. Emp, the raiders don’t suck. They’re finally playing up to their potential despite having had one of the most unanimously criticized off seasons that I can remember. Gutted their offensive line, signed FA RBs, overdrafted leatherwood, on and on. And yet they are a much better team than last year, plus the signing of bradley despite how much we disliked his late game approach has made their defense respectable which has in turn leveled a team that already had a very good offense. I believe the chargers can and will beat the raiders but it’s going to be a dogfight. Who knows what the final outcome might be, but I’m expecting a nail biter with the chargers pulling out a close game. Raiders suck. You stole my post for the thread today. That's ok. There's always tomorrow.
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