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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 13, 2021 10:08:58 GMT -7
A little side note about this weekend, if the chargers win at baltimore, our guy herbert will officially become a winning NFL quarterback! He started the season at 6-9 career and with the win against cleveland he pulled even at 10-10.
I’m hoping that the browns match will represent the last time that he has a losing record going into a game for the rest of his NFL career.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 13, 2021 10:50:14 GMT -7
L Jackson was the new toy, all flashy and cool for a year.....then DC's started figuring his game out, and he came plummeting back to earth hard. Now he makes a great play here and there, wins the games he supposed to win, but the tough clubs beat him....literally. He loses his composure, loses the ball, and ultimately loses the game. Chargers can't half effort this game by any means, but a full effort should result in a nice road win! Lamar is 4-1 this year and just went off on MNF. Over 400 yards IN THE AIR, etc. You are not giving him enough credit. The top 10 QB's in the league are good. Where would you place Lamar ? 15th ? 20th ? Such a tough question... As they say, "on any given Sunday". 1. Brady 2. Rogers 3. Mahommes 4. Wilson All 4 of those guys have won SB's (Yes, SB's are team achievements). 5. Herbert 6. Murray 7. Allen 8. Jackson 9. Prescott 10. Stafford/Ryan Jackson and Murray should scare all NFL defenses. Their ability to escape the pocket and hurt you running is a real problem. I hope we figure it out by Sunday...
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Post by ohioboltfan on Oct 13, 2021 10:52:26 GMT -7
You get 100 points for at least answering the question !!!!! Sheesh. Bunch of scaredy cats. Somebody's power rankings isn't the do all QB value. I'll give you my take: First of all, you have to be completely delusional to not call him a top 10 QB. That is easy. 9 th ? I thought of 8ish I would take on my team ahead of him. Number 1 being Herbert of course. I can tell you two good QB's I put behind him. Stafford and Burrows. If you're wanting all of us to weigh in where Lamar Jackson ranks, here's my take: When Lamar Jackson is in my fantasy starting lineup, he ends up being ranked 25th or so. When I put him on the bench, he becomes a top three quarterback. Those rankings are incontrovertible!
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 13, 2021 10:53:28 GMT -7
Lamar is 4-1 this year and just went off on MNF. Over 400 yards IN THE AIR, etc. You are not giving him enough credit. The top 10 QB's in the league are good. Where would you place Lamar ? 15th ? 20th ? Such a tough question... As they say, "on any given Sunday". 1. Brady 2. Rogers 3. Mahommes 4. Wilson All 4 of those guys have won SB's (Yes, SB's are team achievements). 5. Herbert 6. Murray 7. Allen 8. Jackson 9. Prescott 10. Stafford/Ryan Jackson and Murray should scare all NFL defenses. Their ability to escape the pocket and hurt you running is a real problem. I hope we figure it out by Sunday... Wow our list is pretty damn close. One difference is I have Dak ahead of Jackson. How dare you not have Herbert #1. The nerve.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 13, 2021 10:54:03 GMT -7
You get 100 points for at least answering the question !!!!! Sheesh. Bunch of scaredy cats. Somebody's power rankings isn't the do all QB value. I'll give you my take: First of all, you have to be completely delusional to not call him a top 10 QB. That is easy. 9 th ? I thought of 8ish I would take on my team ahead of him. Number 1 being Herbert of course. I can tell you two good QB's I put behind him. Stafford and Burrows. If you're wanting all of us to weigh in where Lamar Jackson ranks, here's my take: When Lamar Jackson is in my fantasy starting lineup, he ends up being ranked 25th or so. When I put him on the bench, he becomes a top three quarterback. Those rankings are incontrovertible! Ranking Approved !
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Post by lazylightning on Oct 13, 2021 10:54:06 GMT -7
Lamar is 4-1 this year and just went off on MNF. Over 400 yards IN THE AIR, etc. You are not giving him enough credit. The top 10 QB's in the league are good. Where would you place Lamar ? 15th ? 20th ? Such a tough question... As they say, "on any given Sunday". 1. Brady 2. Rogers 3. Mahommes 4. Wilson All 4 of those guys have won SB's (Yes, SB's are team achievements). 5. Herbert 6. Murray 7. Allen 8. Jackson 9. Prescott 10. Stafford/Ryan Jackson and Murray should scare all NFL defenses. Their ability to escape the pocket and hurt you running is a real problem. I hope we figure it out by Sunday... I would put D Watson instead of Stafford/Ryan, but does he qualify?
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 13, 2021 10:57:58 GMT -7
Please continue QB rankings and discussion. But my point is well made. The other posters have Lamar as a top 10 QB.
Respect your opponents. It doesn't cost your fandom to do so.
I hope we get 3 fumbles and 3 INT's this week. Bolty Upy.
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Post by joemcrugby on Oct 13, 2021 11:12:11 GMT -7
Please continue QB rankings and discussion. But my point is well made. The other posters have Lamar as a top 10 QB. Respect your opponents. It doesn't cost your fandom to do so. I hope we get 3 fumbles and 3 INT's this week. Bolty Upy. Top 10? Yes, I agree. However, Jackson & the Ravens are very beatable with a pass rush similar to the one employed against Mahomes & the Chefs in Week 3 and back in January 2019: keep containment through disciplined pass rushing lanes and make him operate exclusively from the pocket with dime coverage packages. Another key: with Harris returning this week, Staley can turn DJ loose as a seek and destroy joker.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 13, 2021 11:14:37 GMT -7
Such a tough question... As they say, "on any given Sunday". 1. Brady 2. Rogers 3. Mahommes 4. Wilson All 4 of those guys have won SB's (Yes, SB's are team achievements). 5. Herbert 6. Murray 7. Allen 8. Jackson 9. Prescott 10. Stafford/Ryan Jackson and Murray should scare all NFL defenses. Their ability to escape the pocket and hurt you running is a real problem. I hope we figure it out by Sunday... Wow our list is pretty damn close. One difference is I have Dak ahead of Jackson. How dare you not have Herbert #1. The nerve. Yeah, the Dak argument is viable. I give Lamar the edge because of his potential to single-handedly destroy a game. Dak is more steady/dependable. Once Herbert wins a SB... he goes up to #2. If Herbert wins 2 SB's I put him at #1... just to piss off Pats fans. If they want an argument, I've got Sheli in my back pocket... again, just to piss them off.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 13, 2021 11:17:06 GMT -7
Such a tough question... As they say, "on any given Sunday". 1. Brady 2. Rogers 3. Mahommes 4. Wilson All 4 of those guys have won SB's (Yes, SB's are team achievements). 5. Herbert 6. Murray 7. Allen 8. Jackson 9. Prescott 10. Stafford/Ryan Jackson and Murray should scare all NFL defenses. Their ability to escape the pocket and hurt you running is a real problem. I hope we figure it out by Sunday... I would put D Watson instead of Stafford/Ryan, but does he qualify? I agree.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 13, 2021 11:25:24 GMT -7
Please continue QB rankings and discussion. But my point is well made. The other posters have Lamar as a top 10 QB. Respect your opponents. It doesn't cost your fandom to do so. I hope we get 3 fumbles and 3 INT's this week. Bolty Upy. Top 10? Yes, I agree. However, Jackson & the Ravens are very beatable with a pass rush similar to the one employed against Mahomes & the Chefs in Week 3 and back in January 2019: keep containment through disciplined pass rushing lanes and make him operate exclusively from the pocket with dime coverage packages. Another key: with Harris returning this week, Staley can turn DJ loose as a seek and destroy joker. Is Harris on Mark Andrews ? Cuz I would have someone on that TE. I like our set up. Our secondary is just plain crazy. Get the pass rush that you said, and cover the hell out of them. I'd like to see Asanti on Hollywood Brown.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 13, 2021 11:27:28 GMT -7
Such a tough question... As they say, "on any given Sunday". 1. Brady 2. Rogers 3. Mahommes 4. Wilson All 4 of those guys have won SB's (Yes, SB's are team achievements). 5. Herbert 6. Murray 7. Allen 8. Jackson 9. Prescott 10. Stafford/Ryan Jackson and Murray should scare all NFL defenses. Their ability to escape the pocket and hurt you running is a real problem. I hope we figure it out by Sunday... I would put D Watson instead of Stafford/Ryan, but does he qualify? i forgot about Massage Parlor Watson. My little freaky QB...........
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Post by boltnut on Oct 13, 2021 11:51:28 GMT -7
Top 10? Yes, I agree. However, Jackson & the Ravens are very beatable with a pass rush similar to the one employed against Mahomes & the Chefs in Week 3 and back in January 2019: keep containment through disciplined pass rushing lanes and make him operate exclusively from the pocket with dime coverage packages. Another key: with Harris returning this week, Staley can turn DJ loose as a seek and destroy joker. Is Harris on Mark Andrews ? Cuz I would have someone on that TE. I like our set up. Our secondary is just plain crazy. Get the pass rush that you said, and cover the hell out of them. I'd like to see Asanti on Hollywood Brown. LB's are going to have their work cut out for them. Maybe Tranquil on Andrews...? It would be nice to use Derwin as a spy on Lamar. Delayed blitzes to force Lamar into quick decisions while contain his rushing yards...?
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Post by lazylightning on Oct 13, 2021 12:21:42 GMT -7
I would put D Watson instead of Stafford/Ryan, but does he qualify? i forgot about Massage Parlor Watson. My little freaky QB........... Robert Kraft approves this post.
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Post by joemcrugby on Oct 13, 2021 13:23:02 GMT -7
Is Harris on Mark Andrews ? Cuz I would have someone on that TE. I like our set up. Our secondary is just plain crazy. Get the pass rush that you said, and cover the hell out of them. I'd like to see Asanti on Hollywood Brown. LB's are going to have their work cut out for them. Maybe Tranquil on Andrews...? It would be nice to use Derwin as a spy on Lamar. Delayed blitzes to force Lamar into quick decisions while contain his rushing yards...?
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