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Post by joemcrugby on May 26, 2020 13:32:48 GMT -7
He's not in the same ballpark as most of the guys you mentioned in the brain-type category (Namath had a sub-.500 record as a starter and Bradshaw wasn't much of a last minute drive type of QB as the great Steeler teams usually dominated and played with a lead). Johnny U was my man when I was a youngster. However, PR had a boatload of pressure-packed last minute drives and big second half comebacks over the years, and it began in his first year as a starter (2006): the two largest back-to-back second half comeback wins in NFL history when they beat the Bengals and Broncos when trailing by 21 and 17 points, respectively. And don't forget all of the great last-minute wins during the 2018 season when the team was mostly intact. The main factor with the frequency of comebacks for PR: the better the oline, the more often they happened. Here's the list of the top 25 Fourth Quarter Comeback Wins for Quarterbacks: A better look at that might be Bradshaw's record when he was down in the last 2 minutes, along with everyone else. What did they do when they did have the opportunity. Terry Bradshaw, believe it or not, is actually Underated. The great defense always gets the credit for them winning 4 Superbowls. But player after player from that team says they never would have won those without Bradshaw. As touted and famous as that defense was, Bradshaw was MVP in two of those Superbowls. I'm not saying that Bradshaw wasn't great as he most definitely earned the HOF induction. However, I'm unsure as to how many games the Steelers were down late in the game where he led them back over the years. They led wire-to-wire in one of the MVP wins (Cowboys) and the Steelers did score the go-ahead TD against the Rams in the 4th quarter with 12 minutes left with the great pass to Stallworth, but he also threw 3 interceptions in the MVP win over the Rams. I know that there are more, but the only real last drive win that springs to mind is The Immaculate Reception which being honest wasn't a "great" comeback win by Bradshaw. It was perhaps the most memorable comeback in history due to its circumstances and outcome, but the 4th and 10 game-winning-pass didn't exactly end up where he intended. ;-) I wouldn't have the resources to research how often they were able to comeback over the course of his careers per opportunity, but it turns out that Bradshaw is tied for 63rd with 15 fourth quarter comeback wins over his 14-year career (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm). One of the guys that he is tied with? Troy Aikman, another QB who played on a dynasty who didn't play from behind all-that-often once he got past the first couple of seasons of his 12-year career.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 27, 2020 2:40:13 GMT -7
A better look at that might be Bradshaw's record when he was down in the last 2 minutes, along with everyone else. What did they do when they did have the opportunity. Terry Bradshaw, believe it or not, is actually Underated. The great defense always gets the credit for them winning 4 Superbowls. But player after player from that team says they never would have won those without Bradshaw. As touted and famous as that defense was, Bradshaw was MVP in two of those Superbowls. I'm not saying that Bradshaw wasn't great as he most definitely earned the HOF induction. However, I'm unsure as to how many games the Steelers were down late in the game where he led them back over the years. They led wire-to-wire in one of the MVP wins (Cowboys) and the Steelers did score the go-ahead TD against the Rams in the 4th quarter with 12 minutes left with the great pass to Stallworth, but he also threw 3 interceptions in the MVP win over the Rams. I know that there are more, but the only real last drive win that springs to mind is The Immaculate Reception which being honest wasn't a "great" comeback win by Bradshaw. It was perhaps the most memorable comeback in history due to its circumstances and outcome, but the 4th and 10 game-winning-pass didn't exactly end up where he intended. ;-) I wouldn't have the resources to research how often they were able to comeback over the course of his careers per opportunity, but it turns out that Bradshaw is tied for 63rd with 15 fourth quarter comeback wins over his 14-year career (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm). One of the guys that he is tied with? Troy Aikman, another QB who played on a dynasty who didn't play from behind all-that-often once he got past the first couple of seasons of his 12-year career. The Bradshaw Aikman situations make me feel sad for Rivers. What could he have accomplished with that kind of support ? I have heard in Pittsburgh they wanted to draft Rivers. We got him, they moved on to Big Ben. What could have been ?
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 7, 2020 11:32:04 GMT -7
Damn, 2020 sucks. RIP Reche. 😞
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 7, 2020 12:02:05 GMT -7
Damn, 2020 sucks. RIP Reche. 😞 at 41. Shot and killed on his front lawn. feel for his family.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 7, 2020 15:09:46 GMT -7
A blast from the past: Rick Neuheisel was unbeaten as an NFL scab quarterback for the Chargers in 1987By SAM FARMER JUNE 7, 2020 If they’re playing in empty stadiums, NFL teams will have to get used to noiseless games this season. During the 1987 players strike, all Rick Neuheisel heard was noise. The former UCLA standout was quarterback of the San Diego Chargers scab team — people sneeringly called them the Re-Chargers — and Neuheisel felt the scorn of full-time players he had gotten to know in training camp. “When you’re driving into the stadium and you see all these guys with signs, you see players that were your buddies when you were in training camp,” Neuheisel recalled recently. “They’re giving you dirty looks, and you’re going, ‘Dude, [linebacker] Billy Ray Smith told me to come and play. We’re winning games for you guys right now. Don’t try to tell me what I should or shouldn’t do. If you were on this side of the fence, you’d be doing the same thing.’ I just wanted to play.” Neuheisel, who was most valuable player of the 1984 Rose Bowl in leading UCLA to an upset victory over Illinois, played for the USFL’s San Antonio Gunslingers after college, then made the Chargers in 1987. Sort of. After training camp, Chargers general manager Steve Ortmayer told Neuheisel the team planned to keep him but needed a couple days to make waiver wire moves before bringing him back. Dan Fouts was the starting quarterback, Mark Herrmann was the backup, and the No. 3 was fourth-round rookie Mark Vlasic. But the Chargers had a change of heart on Neuheisel. The decided to hold off and re-sign him to be their replacement quarterback when the regular players went on strike. By that point — two games into the season — Neuheisel had gone home to Los Angeles to return to law school. Still, when the Chargers called, he answered. “When I went back, I was rusty,” he said. “I think I came back four days before our game at Cincinnati.” Nonetheless, Neuheisel led the Charger scabs to victories in each of their three games. He even made a bit of history in the win over the Bengals. “I’m still the answer to one of the great trivia questions of all time,” he said. “Who was the last NFL player to score a one-point conversion without kicking it?” Neuheisel was the holder on that crazy extra point, and the replacement long snapper dribbled the ball back to him with a hard, bouncing snap. The ball caromed off Neuheisel’s hands and into those of kicker Jeff Gaffney. Gaffney started running for the goal line but quickly realized he wasn’t going to make it. Neuheisel was running behind him, yelling, “Pitch it! Pitch it!” So the kicker did. “I start going back the other way, and I see a guy open in the back of the end zone,” Neuheisel recalled. “I don’t throw it to him because I realize he’s wearing a 60-number, so he’s not an eligible receiver. I have to run for it, and I dive in. I make the one point ... and we wind up winning that game, 10-9.” It was one of the many enjoyable memories Neuheisel has of that confusing time. “Because we were considered a bunch of no-names, it was a blast,” said Neuheisel, who stayed with the team for two games after the strike although the regular players refused to talk to him. “The replacements stuck together.” www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/story/2020-06-07/rick-neuheisel-nfl-scab-quarterback-chargers-1987 |
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 9, 2020 22:58:00 GMT -7
We need some football...
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Post by ohioboltfan on Jun 10, 2020 7:27:43 GMT -7
Soooo totally true TB! I've been thinking the SAME thing for days.
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 10, 2020 8:15:49 GMT -7
Soooo totally true TB! I've been thinking the SAME thing for days. normally, we would be getting some mini camp news, interviews, etc?
i wouldn't be surprised to see some crazy results in some games due to teams ability or inability to manage under a pandemic state.
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Post by moekid on Jun 10, 2020 8:47:40 GMT -7
Soooo totally true TB! I've been thinking the SAME thing for days. normally, we would be getting some mini camp news, interviews, etc?
i wouldn't be surprised to see some crazy results in some games due to teams ability or inability to manage under a pandemic state.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 10, 2020 12:23:11 GMT -7
Sounds like training camp will start on time unless there’s an intervening event (which is possible in lost-its-mind 2020).
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 12, 2020 9:19:14 GMT -7
Sounds like training camp will start on time unless there’s an intervening event (which is possible in lost-its-mind 2020). according to harbaugh the NFL has already lost its mind.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 14, 2020 16:01:31 GMT -7
Sounds like training camp will start on time unless there’s an intervening event (which is possible in lost-its-mind 2020). according to harbaugh the NFL has already lost its mind. Which Harbaugh???
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 14, 2020 19:10:25 GMT -7
according to harbaugh the NFL has already lost its mind. Which Harbaugh??? John. link
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 15, 2020 11:14:52 GMT -7
In the words of Shammy: "Linky not worky".
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 15, 2020 12:44:40 GMT -7
In the words of Shammy: "Linky not worky". it was a sports ill article. Follow us on Twitter: @falconssi Like and Follow Falcon Report on Facebook 1
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