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Post by lightsout42 on Nov 15, 2021 7:49:03 GMT -7
I hate to be down on Herbert, but he was way off this game... Our defense is a dumpster fire, but outside of RG and RB depth the offense "should" be able to outscore almost anyone. Its like the team is panicking... I don't know. They have no identity. They don’t go out to impose their will on anybody from week to week. It just looks haphazard. So there’s no consistency and no confidence. They look lost. Herbert looks lost. This. While good teams are—at least more often than not—playing fierce and clearly in command against mediocre teams, the Chargers are trying to catch up and win close games with mediocre teams.
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Post by NYBOLTFAN1 on Nov 15, 2021 8:43:28 GMT -7
You do realize that I am probably 1 of 10 active people on this little message board? Do you really want to lose 10% of your boards output? Lol, Seriously though that Bolts from the Blue forum has a ton more people. What would you guys do without me? Preach to the choir I suppose. Quality over quantity. Go over there with your routine and get lost in the sea, its obvious you come here for attention. Quality discussions about a game that has no impact on anything.
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Post by moekid on Nov 15, 2021 8:49:36 GMT -7
How’s everybody enjoying the “easy” part of our schedule? Meanwhile, Belichick with less talent, is again showing what a difference great coaching makes The Patriots are a better team period. This coaching staff has the talk down, but they suck at the walk. Yep, Opie is a juke box hero. Good at press conferences but can’t get it done in games
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 15, 2021 10:45:13 GMT -7
The Patriots are a better team period. This coaching staff has the talk down, but they suck at the walk. Yep, Opie is a juke box hero. Good at press conferences but can’t get it done in games Nominated Smack of the Day. Went double dipping in one short sentence too !!!
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 15, 2021 10:49:57 GMT -7
They have no identity. They don’t go out to impose their will on anybody from week to week. It just looks haphazard. So there’s no consistency and no confidence. They look lost. Herbert looks lost. This. While good teams are—at least more often than not—playing fierce and clearly in command against mediocre teams, the Chargers are trying to catch up and win close games with mediocre teams. My take on what I have seen---------we were guns blazing, ripping offense, to start the season out. But that has gone away. I can't tell you why, but it has. Our passing offense looks nothing like the start of the season. Usually that happens when you lose people to injury, that has not been the case for 2021.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 15, 2021 12:10:31 GMT -7
This. While good teams are—at least more often than not—playing fierce and clearly in command against mediocre teams, the Chargers are trying to catch up and win close games with mediocre teams. My take on what I have seen---------we were guns blazing, ripping offense, to start the season out. But that has gone away. I can't tell you why, but it has. Our passing offense looks nothing like the start of the season. Usually that happens when you lose people to injury, that has not been the case for 2021. The Chargers, and more specifically Staley et al, were an unknown coming out of the start. They are now known, DC/OC's have adjusted......Staley has not. The offence has stayed relatively healthy, but are just stagnant. Wide open, aggressive, go for it... seems like a good approach. The defence is injured, and lacks enough talent. This is the problem, and the reason the Chargers are not a threat. The failure to adjust, change things up, grow.....will be the issue with Staley.
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Post by sonorajim on Nov 15, 2021 13:18:35 GMT -7
My take on what I have seen---------we were guns blazing, ripping offense, to start the season out. But that has gone away. I can't tell you why, but it has. Our passing offense looks nothing like the start of the season. Usually that happens when you lose people to injury, that has not been the case for 2021. The Chargers, and more specifically Staley et al, were an unknown coming out of the start. They are now known, DC/OC's have adjusted......Staley has not. The offence has stayed relatively healthy, but are just stagnant. Wide open, aggressive, go for it... seems like a good approach. The defence is injured, and lacks enough talent. This is the problem, and the reason the Chargers are not a threat. The failure to adjust, change things up, grow.....will be the issue with Staley. I disagree regards degree of impact. Herbert was struggling with composure and when he hit on potentially big plays, the pass was dropped. Mike & Keenan make those catches and it's a different game. O should have carried the day, set the tempo.
Vikes played well on offense, we didn't.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 15, 2021 13:39:47 GMT -7
The Chargers, and more specifically Staley et al, were an unknown coming out of the start. They are now known, DC/OC's have adjusted......Staley has not. The offence has stayed relatively healthy, but are just stagnant. Wide open, aggressive, go for it... seems like a good approach. The defence is injured, and lacks enough talent. This is the problem, and the reason the Chargers are not a threat. The failure to adjust, change things up, grow.....will be the issue with Staley. I disagree regards degree of impact. Herbert was struggling with composure and when he hit on potentially big plays, the pass was dropped. Mike & Keenan make those catches and it's a different game. O should have carried the day, set the tempo.
Vikes played well on offense, we didn't. He had 8 catches for 98 yards off limited practice ?
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 15, 2021 13:52:13 GMT -7
Spread the offense and its different game...
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 15, 2021 14:04:25 GMT -7
Chargers have been relatively healthy compared to most teams but the injuries still feel massive. Depth behind starters is lacking (that's why ST is bad) and that's a product of bad late-round drafting
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Post by lazylightning on Nov 15, 2021 14:08:13 GMT -7
The Chargers, and more specifically Staley et al, were an unknown coming out of the start. They are now known, DC/OC's have adjusted......Staley has not. The offence has stayed relatively healthy, but are just stagnant. Wide open, aggressive, go for it... seems like a good approach. The defence is injured, and lacks enough talent. This is the problem, and the reason the Chargers are not a threat. The failure to adjust, change things up, grow.....will be the issue with Staley. I disagree regards degree of impact. Herbert was struggling with composure and when he hit on potentially big plays, the pass was dropped. Mike & Keenan make those catches and it's a different game. O should have carried the day, set the tempo.
Vikes played well on offense, we didn't. Teams know to run early & often because the bolt's run defense sucks. Control the clock and keep Herbert off the field. Same as last year, the defense was costing the team wins. Some receivers are having a hard time catching the 'heaters' that Herbert throws. I see it more on the receivers to adapt than Herbert to lay off the heat. Other teams know to overload pressure on the right side to get to Herbert. Herbert looks like he is getting rattled after taking a few hits. On the plus side, the two mid-season additions have really helped the special teams improve.
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Post by lightsout42 on Nov 15, 2021 14:09:55 GMT -7
Chargers have been relatively healthy compared to most teams but the injuries still feel massive. Depth behind starters is lacking (that's why ST is bad) and that's a product of bad late-round drafting Going on ten years of that drafting. TT needs to get it together this coming offseason or be let go.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 15, 2021 14:33:44 GMT -7
Agreed, thats what I'm saying... TT is the constant factor in our inability to progress as a franchise. Yes our owner sucks, but TT is the GM and needs to make better decisions, and no I'm not buying the Spanos Jr. bologna...
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 15, 2021 14:34:48 GMT -7
The Chargers, and more specifically Staley et al, were an unknown coming out of the start. They are now known, DC/OC's have adjusted......Staley has not. The offence has stayed relatively healthy, but are just stagnant. Wide open, aggressive, go for it... seems like a good approach. The defence is injured, and lacks enough talent. This is the problem, and the reason the Chargers are not a threat. The failure to adjust, change things up, grow.....will be the issue with Staley. I disagree regards degree of impact. Herbert was struggling with composure and when he hit on potentially big plays, the pass was dropped. Mike & Keenan make those catches and it's a different game. O should have carried the day, set the tempo.
Vikes played well on offense, we didn't. Struggling with composure, or with catching the ball makes little difference now, as that game is over and in the loss column.
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Post by moekid on Nov 15, 2021 14:48:07 GMT -7
I disagree regards degree of impact. Herbert was struggling with composure and when he hit on potentially big plays, the pass was dropped. Mike & Keenan make those catches and it's a different game. O should have carried the day, set the tempo.
Vikes played well on offense, we didn't. He had 8 catches for 98 yards off limited practice ? Keenan didn’t have drops against the Vikings. Ek, MW and Guyton did
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