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Post by lightsout42 on Nov 24, 2021 7:46:25 GMT -7
I don’t see us resigning MW, coupon or not. Not too sure I agree.....TT will certainly ask the cost/term MW is seeking. How do you all feel about any perceived MW replacement? Palmer that guy, or not really? Will the answer be found early in the draft? I’m sure they’ll try, but the signals (the public ones, whatever that’s worth) suggest MW’s camp is going to go get a big check. Between his his lack of production over time and health history (he has a knee issue this year) I just don’t see the Chargers offering the contract he can likely get elsewhere. Like Hunter Henry, MW is probably a player they’d like to keep but only at the right price. www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/32008909/nfl-training-camps-updates-fantasy-football-intel-nuggets-cowboys-raiders-chargers-rams-dolphins-visits
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 24, 2021 7:48:08 GMT -7
I don’t see us resigning MW, coupon or not. I just think Coupon Tom is hilarious. Me too, and it fits him. I hope we do sign MW but at a much lesser price... If not let him walk. Palmer could be that guy, but who knows I doubt it. KA is getting old and is dropping way too many passes... It will be time to address our WR corps much sooner than anticipated. TT sucks at team building... Have I told ya'll that before?
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 24, 2021 7:58:53 GMT -7
I just think Coupon Tom is hilarious. At least by my recollection, during TT’s tenure the Chargers have always spent money—the problem isn’t that they’ve been *cheap*, it’s that they’ve too often over-paid for mediocre FAs and re-signed players that are either hurt/unavailable or ultimately don’t produce. Lets have another view of this (which means after I type it, it becomes everyone's view, from a kneeling position.) We only go big when we HAVE to. There are two that come to mind Bosa and Linsley. We drafted Bosa. There is no way in hell we don't give big money to a premium pass rusher that we drafted. HAVE to. You cannot draft a Herbert, and not protect him. Linsley. They have only done it when they HAVE to, AND those two are only of late. There is a sense out there of why not do it more often to put us over the top ? Would a star LB, DL, and RB have us at a better record than 6-4 ? I'll let you figure that out.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 24, 2021 7:59:32 GMT -7
Not too sure I agree.....TT will certainly ask the cost/term MW is seeking. How do you all feel about any perceived MW replacement? Palmer that guy, or not really? Will the answer be found early in the draft? I’m sure they’ll try, but the signals (the public ones, whatever that’s worth) suggest MW’s camp is going to go get a big check. Between his his lack of production over time and health history (he has a knee issue this year) I just don’t see the Chargers offering the contract he can likely get elsewhere. Like Hunter Henry, MW is probably a player they’d like to keep but only at the right price. www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/32008909/nfl-training-camps-updates-fantasy-football-intel-nuggets-cowboys-raiders-chargers-rams-dolphins-visitsIt will be interesting to see the contract he agrees to. Players are funny about contracts, especially if they have achieved financial security......other things can become the 'deciding' factor.....PO team, location, money, term, staying because it is the known environment.....no idea on MW, but I get the talk he is only after big money. Will not surprise me to see a 2nd rd pick get used on WR.
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Post by lightsout42 on Nov 24, 2021 8:07:27 GMT -7
It will be interesting to see the contract he agrees to. Players are funny about contracts, especially if they have achieved financial security......other things can become the 'deciding' factor.....PO team, location, money, term, staying because it is the known environment.....no idea on MW, but I get the talk he is only after big money. Will not surprise me to see a 2nd rd pick get used on WR. That seems very possible. I could see them draft a ROT, Edge, DT, or DB in the first round depending on free agency and their grades of talent at the draft position. WR, RB, and OL/DL seem like places to go round 2.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 24, 2021 8:13:20 GMT -7
It will be interesting to see the contract he agrees to. Players are funny about contracts, especially if they have achieved financial security......other things can become the 'deciding' factor.....PO team, location, money, term, staying because it is the known environment.....no idea on MW, but I get the talk he is only after big money. Will not surprise me to see a 2nd rd pick get used on WR. That seems very possible. I could see them draft a ROT, Edge, DT, or DB in the first round depending on free agency and their grades of talent at the draft position. WR, RB, and OL/DL seem like places to go round 2. Still plenty of needs....ROT is definitely very high on that list, but so is ROG, and DL.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 24, 2021 8:20:30 GMT -7
That seems very possible. I could see them draft a ROT, Edge, DT, or DB in the first round depending on free agency and their grades of talent at the draft position. WR, RB, and OL/DL seem like places to go round 2. Still plenty of needs....ROT is definitely very high on that list, but so is ROG, and DL. The fear, sir, is the continual cycle of not hitting mid and late round draft picks. You can fill those needs there. But TT never has. Is this the year he does ?
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Post by lazylightning on Nov 24, 2021 8:32:45 GMT -7
I just think Coupon Tom is hilarious. Me too, and it fits him. I hope we do sign MW but at a much lesser price... If not let him walk. Palmer could be that guy, but who knows I doubt it. KA is getting old and is dropping way too many passes... It will be time to address our WR corps much sooner than anticipated. TT sucks at team building... Have I told ya'll that before? I like Mike and want to keep him at the right price. Otherwise bolts should get a comp pick in '23. I think MW will take the money and run, and he should. I believe Palmer was drafted to be MW's replacement. It is concerning to me that Guyton is getting more snaps/targets than Palmer. "TT sucks at team building..." His record paints the picture. TT led bolts for nine years, made the playoffs twice. On his third head coach. IMO, TT and Staley will exit the building together at the end of season '23 or lead us to the promised land.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 24, 2021 8:34:30 GMT -7
Still plenty of needs....ROT is definitely very high on that list, but so is ROG, and DL. The fear, sir, is the continual cycle of not hitting mid and late round draft picks. You can fill those needs there. But TT never has. Is this the year he does ? Certainly 'hitting' on mid round picks is the best way to improve the depth needed to become a serious contender. FA's, you know those guys that did not do much on the club that drafted them, but are viewed as a perfect fit by Staley, and are not very expensive is another way. TT needs to be successful in both approaches is my thought.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 24, 2021 8:40:05 GMT -7
It will be interesting to see the contract he agrees to. Players are funny about contracts, especially if they have achieved financial security......other things can become the 'deciding' factor.....PO team, location, money, term, staying because it is the known environment.....no idea on MW, but I get the talk he is only after big money. Will not surprise me to see a 2nd rd pick get used on WR. That seems very possible. I could see them draft a ROT, Edge, DT, or DB in the first round depending on free agency and their grades of talent at the draft position. WR, RB, and OL/DL seem like places to go round 2. I think that makes sense too... Will be a hot debate on what position gets drafted in the first next year! So many holes to fill, and new cracks forming...
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Post by sdc on Nov 24, 2021 10:44:15 GMT -7
At this point, I believe that most of the bitching and belly-aching that I constantly see from Chargers fans, win or lose, comes down to one dynamic. The working class resents management. Most of these low IQ, low income fans hate their lives and hate their jobs. I saw a motivational speaker once at a conference whose total message was basically; "if your life sucks, its because you suck. Do something about it." Instead of following this sage advice, they would rather blame someone else. Who better to blame than their bosses? But no, there is risk involved with that. You won't see them on the internet calling their boss "Budget Bob" for the world to see. So, they target management of their favorite sports teams. The irony of ridiculing people that have success beyond their wildest dreams is completely lost on them. I am glad that at an early age I chose to be the steward of my own success and happiness so that I don't have to live such an hollow bitter existence.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 24, 2021 12:26:12 GMT -7
At this point, I believe that most of the bitching and belly-aching that I constantly see from Chargers fans, win or lose, comes down to one dynamic. The working class resents management. Most of these low IQ, low income fans hate their lives and hate their jobs. I saw a motivational speaker once at a conference whose total message was basically; "if your life sucks, its because you suck. Do something about it." Instead of following this sage advice, they would rather blame someone else. Who better to blame than their bosses? But no, there is risk involved with that. You won't see them on the internet calling their boss "Budget Bob" for the world to see. So, they target management of their favorite sports teams. The irony of ridiculing people that have success beyond their wildest dreams is completely lost on them. I am glad that at an early age I chose to be the steward of my own success and happiness so that I don't have to live such an hollow bitter existence. Oh poo poo. It's a picture with funny words for heavens sake. Lighten up a little. On the bright side when you manage to type a bigger ego than someone who thinks they are an Emperor, you automatically get Post of the Day.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 24, 2021 12:33:51 GMT -7
At this point, I believe that most of the bitching and belly-aching that I constantly see from Chargers fans, win or lose, comes down to one dynamic. The working class resents management. Most of these low IQ, low income fans hate their lives and hate their jobs. I saw a motivational speaker once at a conference whose total message was basically; "if your life sucks, its because you suck. Do something about it." Instead of following this sage advice, they would rather blame someone else. Who better to blame than their bosses? But no, there is risk involved with that. You won't see them on the internet calling their boss "Budget Bob" for the world to see. So, they target management of their favorite sports teams. The irony of ridiculing people that have success beyond their wildest dreams is completely lost on them. I am glad that at an early age I chose to be the steward of my own success and happiness so that I don't have to live such an hollow bitter existence. That is probably the most ignorant statement I've ever heard on any forum ever. You're hilarious.
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Post by sonorajim on Nov 24, 2021 12:41:36 GMT -7
LAC is a playoff caliber team today. Being that consistently with some AFC Championship / Super Bowl appearances, hopefully a Lombardi Trophy is the current goal. Failure to be a factor in the playoffs 2021- 2023 would very likely result in GM, etc turnover. Staley's vision and the teamwork between he & Telesco re draft, FA, coaching staff acquisitions will be key moving forward. So far we have an incomplete sample of season 1 Telesco / Staley. Telesco drafted Herbert, hired Staley, drafted & signed a much improved OL and off we go. To be determined.
If you are done,,,,,,,I need to know if I need 3 more wins or 4 more wins to have a playoff team of my lovey dovey Chargers ? Actually? TBD. Best case, win all 7. Let the losers sort themselves out. I'd be comfortable with 5 W's. 4 vs AFCW, & Cincy or Hou. Denver is the most important currently.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 24, 2021 13:02:01 GMT -7
If you are done,,,,,,,I need to know if I need 3 more wins or 4 more wins to have a playoff team of my lovey dovey Chargers ? Actually? TBD. Best case, win all 7. Let the losers sort themselves out. I'd be comfortable with 5 W's. 4 vs AFCW, & Cincy or Hou. Denver is the most important currently.
So we need 11 wins to get in ?
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