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Post by ltocbolts on Mar 19, 2019 13:20:36 GMT -7
Our only hope is Nwosu grows. He can pass rush, but is weak against the run. I'll pretend Emanuel is average against the run, but can't pass rush. Their currently opposites. PS That was, 20 sacks at Sammy Small School cannot get sacks in the NFL for those of you paying attention. I looked at everything I could find on Nwosu when he was in college and he sure looked promising. My guess is he will take a giant step forward this season. Young players often seem somewhat lost as a rookie and come to life in year two. I think he could do that. - We can all hope for that! I share your optimism. There's a good chance Nwosu really grows into a good NFL Linebacker this year.
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Post by NoMoreChillies on Mar 20, 2019 19:48:48 GMT -7
as for Thomas Davis, i wonder if after 15 seasons does he have any gas left in the tank?
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Post by topcat on Mar 21, 2019 7:49:14 GMT -7
as for Thomas Davis, i wonder if after 15 seasons does he have any gas left in the tank? Davis was playing at a high level last year. In 12 games, he had 79 tackles and 6 passes defensed. 6 passes defensed is 6 more than Emmanuel and Pullard had last year COMBINED...
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Post by pacstud on Mar 22, 2019 6:59:27 GMT -7
as for Thomas Davis, i wonder if after 15 seasons does he have any gas left in the tank? Davis was playing at a high level last year. In 12 games, he had 79 tackles and 6 passes defensed. 6 passes defensed is 6 more than Emmanuel and Pullard had last year COMBINED... 1. I agree regarding your enjoyment of the Davis signing. I like him and his veteranship. 2. This stat is meaningless. Emmanuel and Pullard rarely (Pullard probably never) played passing downs. It's tough to defend passes that don't occur or in situations where you are a pure zone defender (wall defender). So we both like Davis as an upgrade, I don't feel we need to necessarily denigrate the other players. They are who they are. Pullard is just a slow, below-average player. Emmanuel I like better than you. I still think he can do some things. But he is a pure flat defender if he's not pressuring.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 22, 2019 8:10:25 GMT -7
Davis was playing at a high level last year. In 12 games, he had 79 tackles and 6 passes defensed. 6 passes defensed is 6 more than Emmanuel and Pullard had last year COMBINED... 1. I agree regarding your enjoyment of the Davis signing. I like him and his veteranship. 2. This stat is meaningless. Emmanuel and Pullard rarely (Pullard probably never) played passing downs. It's tough to defend passes that don't occur or in situations where you are a pure zone defender (wall defender). So we both like Davis as an upgrade, I don't feel we need to necessarily denigrate the other players. They are who they are. Pullard is just a slow, below-average player. Emmanuel I like better than you. I still think he can do some things. But he is a pure flat defender if he's not pressuring. You mean flat footed. His best day is a body on the field. No pass sacks, can't cover. Ok, maybe that's not his thing. Not enough tackles. Gets washed out in blocks quickly. Burnt into my mind was a NE touchdown run near the endzone. Emanuel got blocked and just went backwards and spun himself halfway around. He ended up yards down away from the play with his back to the offense. Really ?? Hell, smash the blocker if you have to just to look like a player. Arrrrrgggghhhhh
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Post by pacstud on Mar 22, 2019 8:47:51 GMT -7
You mean flat footed. His best day is a body on the field. No pass sacks, can't cover. Ok, maybe that's not his thing. Not enough tackles. Gets washed out in blocks quickly. Burnt into my mind was a NE touchdown run near the endzone. Emanuel got blocked and just went backwards and spun himself halfway around. He ended up yards down away from the play with his back to the offense. Really ?? Hell, smash the blocker if you have to just to look like a player. Arrrrrgggghhhhh And I am in know way defending Emanuel as some sort of good player. He is not. He is average AT BEST. But finding 50 players is tough and when your LBs are dropping like flies, well guys are asked to do things they aren't good at. Doesn't mean we can't use them on our roster at all. Just means we need better players so that guys like Emanuel can just do what they're good at (ST, specific D packages) Pullard is not very good at all. Strictly emergency player imo.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 22, 2019 8:50:38 GMT -7
You mean flat footed. His best day is a body on the field. No pass sacks, can't cover. Ok, maybe that's not his thing. Not enough tackles. Gets washed out in blocks quickly. Burnt into my mind was a NE touchdown run near the endzone. Emanuel got blocked and just went backwards and spun himself halfway around. He ended up yards down away from the play with his back to the offense. Really ?? Hell, smash the blocker if you have to just to look like a player. Arrrrrgggghhhhh And I am in know way defending Emanuel as some sort of good player. He is not. He is average AT BEST. But finding 50 players is tough and when your LBs are dropping like flies, well guys are asked to do things they aren't good at. Doesn't mean we can't use them on our roster at all. Just means we need better players so that guys like Emanuel can just do what they're good at (ST, specific D packages) Pullard is not very good at all. Strictly emergency player imo. Great sensible post. I really enjoyed it after reading frozenfishdinner today. I have no problem with heavy playing time for him when 51 LB's are injured. What were they to do ?? He's just not the answer. He has declined by years of work.
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Post by topcat on Mar 22, 2019 14:57:01 GMT -7
Davis was playing at a high level last year. In 12 games, he had 79 tackles and 6 passes defensed. 6 passes defensed is 6 more than Emmanuel and Pullard had last year COMBINED... 1. I agree regarding your enjoyment of the Davis signing. I like him and his veteranship. 2. This stat is meaningless. Emmanuel and Pullard rarely (Pullard probably never) played passing downs. It's tough to defend passes that don't occur or in situations where you are a pure zone defender (wall defender). So we both like Davis as an upgrade, I don't feel we need to necessarily denigrate the other players. They are who they are. Pullard is just a slow, below-average player. Emmanuel I like better than you. I still think he can do some things. But he is a pure flat defender if he's not pressuring. Oh, I've seen Emmanuel out on coverage a lot, enough to post several times that he's a liability in coverage. And Pullard, agree, not used in coverage as much as Emmanuel, but have you forgotten this?
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 22, 2019 15:31:53 GMT -7
1. I agree regarding your enjoyment of the Davis signing. I like him and his veteranship. 2. This stat is meaningless. Emmanuel and Pullard rarely (Pullard probably never) played passing downs. It's tough to defend passes that don't occur or in situations where you are a pure zone defender (wall defender). So we both like Davis as an upgrade, I don't feel we need to necessarily denigrate the other players. They are who they are. Pullard is just a slow, below-average player. Emmanuel I like better than you. I still think he can do some things. But he is a pure flat defender if he's not pressuring. Oh, I've seen Emmanuel out on coverage a lot, enough to post several times that he's a liability in coverage. And Pullard, agree, not used in coverage as much as Emmanuel, but have you forgotten this?
seems to me Edleman did that to everyone
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Post by woodeye on Mar 22, 2019 15:38:38 GMT -7
Oh, I've seen Emmanuel out on coverage a lot, enough to post several times that he's a liability in coverage. And Pullard, agree, not used in coverage as much as Emmanuel, but have you forgotten this?
seems to me Edleman did that to everyone The question becomes, what is the strategy for trying to defend these modern passing attacks ? In my view, this involves... --pressure up front, both inside and outside. --speedy, instinctive LBs who can tackle...see Thomas Davis, mentoring Kyzir White and Jatavis Brown. --big, zone DBs, also instinctive , and also who can tackle. Any ideas Sir ?...this is a tough one.
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Post by moekid on Mar 22, 2019 15:44:00 GMT -7
Oh, I've seen Emmanuel out on coverage a lot, enough to post several times that he's a liability in coverage. And Pullard, agree, not used in coverage as much as Emmanuel, but have you forgotten this?
seems to me Edleman did that to everyone That’s not Edelman |
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Post by moekid on Mar 22, 2019 15:45:45 GMT -7
seems to me Edleman did that to everyone The question becomes, what is the strategy for trying to defend these modern passing attacks ? In my view, this involves... --pressure up front, both inside and outside. --speedy, instinctive LBs who can tackle...see Thomas Davis, mentoring Kyzir White and Jatavis Brown. --big, zone DBs, also instinctive , and also who can tackle. Any ideas Sir ?...this is a tough one. Press coverage. Have to be able to keep receivers from getting off the line quick and. Lean which disrupts the timing and makes the AB hood the ball and not be as decisive. |
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Post by woodeye on Mar 22, 2019 16:01:29 GMT -7
The question becomes, what is the strategy for trying to defend these modern passing attacks ? In my view, this involves... --pressure up front, both inside and outside. --speedy, instinctive LBs who can tackle...see Thomas Davis, mentoring Kyzir White and Jatavis Brown. --big, zone DBs, also instinctive , and also who can tackle. Any ideas Sir ?...this is a tough one. Press coverage. Have to be able to keep receivers from getting off the line quick and. Lean which disrupts the timing and makes the AB hood the ball and not be as decisive. I definitely agree with you, moe. It is hard to picture gusD doing it this way, though.
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Post by moekid on Mar 22, 2019 17:32:31 GMT -7
Press coverage. Have to be able to keep receivers from getting off the line quick and. Lean which disrupts the timing and makes the AB hood the ball and not be as decisive. I definitely agree with you, moe. It is hard to picture gusD doing it this way, though. Oh. I thought we play modern defense? |
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Post by woodeye on Mar 22, 2019 17:35:15 GMT -7
I definitely agree with you, moe. It is hard to picture gusD doing it this way, though. Oh. I thought we play modern defense? In the Front 7. At DB it's old fashioned Legion of Gloom. LOL. moe so snarky. We play modern defense.
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