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Post by moekid on Nov 10, 2022 19:36:13 GMT -7
Chargers have waived former 1st round pick Jerry Tillery
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 11, 2022 5:42:02 GMT -7
Good riddance... K9 next.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 11, 2022 6:20:34 GMT -7
Steve Young goes off on the Chargers organization. www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49...s-organizationYoung offers brutally honest opinion on dysfunctional Chargers Apparently dismantling the Los Angeles Chargers once in his career wasn't enough, so Steve Young did so again Wednesday night. The former 49ers quarterback and Pro Football Hall of Famer joined KNBR 680's "Tolbert & Copes" on Wednesday evening, discussing San Francisco's upcoming matchup with Los Angeles on "Sunday Night Football" in Week 10 at Levi's Stadium. He also explained why he believes the Chargers don't pose nearly as much of a threat as other contending AFC teams. "The Chargers are neither fish nor fowl," Young said. "If you think about the top-echelon teams, especially in the AFC, Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati, and the Dolphins now, they are all teams that are well-coached, innovative and are going to throw their way there. And they've got the personnel and they've got the quarterback and the coach, they've got all those things and that's why it's going to be tough. And the Chargers are not that team." Young is all-in on Chargers Pro Bowl quarterback Justin Herbert and believes he is one of the league's elite stars at the position. However, the structure around him leaves much to be desired in Young's eyes. "They don't have the weapons, they don't prepare that way, their offense isn't built that way, they're not a 2022 innovative offense, they're not," Young explained. "They have the guy, Justin Herbert honestly is ... I really do believe he is generational like Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. He is that guy, but I don't believe he's got the help. "He's not getting (the help) philosophically, but he's also not getting it with talent. But also, strategically, who are we? Who are the Chargers? Offensively I mean. Offensively they're ... I don't know." Young goes on to compare the dysfunction of the Chargers to that of the Arizona Cardinals, who many believe to be of the league's most inconsistent teams. "The Chargers show up and they're a little more like the Cardinals," Young added. "I always kind of make fun of the Kliff Kingsbury-Kyler Murray kind of wing-it offense and I feel like the Chargers are that way with less of a plan. You can tell I'm not for the Chargers and I think they're not doing a great job of taking care of a generational talent and I'm worried about that. "I'm worried there are people there who don't understand it, don't understand what needs to happen and they're being lapped by other teams who do." Regardless of how Young might feel about the Chargers, the 49ers certainly are taking them at face value as a 5-3 team that, albeit very injured, still has game-breaking talent on both sides of the ball in Herbert, running back Austin Ekeler and defensive stars Derwin James and Khalil Mack. Young handled the Chargers with ease in Super Bowl XXIX almost 28 years ago, completing 24-of-36 passes for 325 yards and six touchdowns on his way to securing San Francisco's fifth championship, but today's 49ers certainly aren't taking the Chargers lightly. Daaamn !
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 11, 2022 6:30:39 GMT -7
Steve Young is right... Staley is also the type of guy that would let the organization burn before admitting fault.
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Post by amped on Nov 11, 2022 7:29:01 GMT -7
Steve Young is right... Staley is also the type of guy that would let the organization burn before admitting fault. Literally after every Loss Staley says "I have to do better" "its on me" "Its my job to get these guys ready"
Steve Young is a great player but his Superbowl win was the benefit of a legendary coach and an owner that spent like crazy before the salary cap.
He is right because it is obvious. He isn't laying down some knowledge that no one else can see.
Now the script isn't written on this season just yet. If we lose the games that look iffy and win the games that look winnable we will be 10-7 and in a wildcard slot with some of our best players getting healthy to make a run.
If it does all go to crap we have a great coach on the outside that seems to be chomping at the bit to take the reigns. Staley sees that too.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 11, 2022 7:36:52 GMT -7
Steve Young is right... Staley is also the type of guy that would let the organization burn before admitting fault. Literally after every Loss Staley says "I have to do better" "its on me" "Its my job to get these guys ready"
Steve Young is a great player but his Superbowl win was the benefit of a legendary coach and an owner that spent like crazy before the salary cap.
He is right because it is obvious. He isn't laying down some knowledge that no one else can see.
Now the script isn't written on this season just yet. If we lose the games that look iffy and win the games that look winnable we will be 10-7 and in a wildcard slot with some of our best players getting healthy to make a run.
If it does all go to crap we have a great coach on the outside that seems to be chomping at the bit to take the reigns. Staley sees that too.
I agree with your entire statement except the first part. Staley is a motivator, that's it. He says what people want to hear. I don't mean admitting fault in public in front of camera's, I'm talking about his day to day planning, scheming, and game decisions. Regardless if we want to admit it or not, we have been bailed out by luck. Injuries play a part because I know someone will bring that up, but its more than that. If people want to say he is truly a young head coach and needs to learn then fine, I will temper my expectations, someone just let me know...
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Post by ohioboltfan on Nov 11, 2022 8:27:39 GMT -7
Where was this iron fist in pre-season when we could've made a move for another player instead of keeping this bum on the team? I disliked drafting this guy- especially in the first round- and tried to put on my homer face ( which is an upside-down lightning bolt smile) but he never won me over. I'm glad he's gone, I just wish it was a sooner and smarter decision.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 11, 2022 8:39:39 GMT -7
Where was this iron fist in pre-season when we could've made a move for another player instead of keeping this bum on the team? I disliked drafting this guy- especially in the first round- and tried to put on my homer face ( which is an upside-down lightning bolt smile) but he never won me over. I'm glad he's gone, I just wish it was a sooner and smarter decision. last year on a rookie contract on a line they revamped. They gave him a shot. He failed, waive him. I wonder if this wasn't a team chemistry waive also. That guy isn't very teamy.
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Post by moekid on Nov 11, 2022 8:40:43 GMT -7
Where was this iron fist in pre-season when we could've made a move for another player instead of keeping this bum on the team? I disliked drafting this guy- especially in the first round- and tried to put on my homer face ( which is an upside-down lightning bolt smile) but he never won me over. I'm glad he's gone, I just wish it was a sooner and smarter decision. last year on a rookie contract on a line they revamped. They gave him a shot. He failed, waive him. I wonder if this wasn't a team chemistry waive also. That guy isn't very teamy. Raiders also waived their 2019 1st round pick Jonathan Abram |
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 11, 2022 10:48:22 GMT -7
Where was this iron fist in pre-season when we could've made a move for another player instead of keeping this bum on the team? I disliked drafting this guy- especially in the first round- and tried to put on my homer face ( which is an upside-down lightning bolt smile) but he never won me over. I'm glad he's gone, I just wish it was a sooner and smarter decision. last year on a rookie contract on a line they revamped. They gave him a shot. He failed, waive him. I wonder if this wasn't a team chemistry waive also. That guy isn't very teamy. Had to be something in addition to his play on the field that led to him being waived after there was reported interest in him from several teams at the trade deadline. After missing the Falcons game due to injuring his back lifting weights, he was listed as missing practice this week due to personal issues. “The team announced the move on Thursday night, which came after Tillery had missed the past two days of practice due to personal reasons.” www.nfl.com/news/chargers-waive-2019-first-round-pick-dt-jerry-tillery |
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 11, 2022 13:36:53 GMT -7
‘Dicker the Kicker’ awarded another shot for Chargers against 49ers Jeff Miller Nov. 10, 2022 On Tuesday, he received recognition from the NFL for his performance in the Chargers’ most recent victory. The accomplishment became even more notable Thursday when Cameron Dicker described his first experience with football this way: “I hated it.” Born in Hong Kong, Dicker grew up mostly in Shanghai, his father working abroad as a supply chain manager. When he was in fifth grade, Dicker was introduced to football in a loosely organized league put together by several local parents. Until that point, he had played mostly soccer. Unsure what position would fit him in this new sport, Dicker ended up on the offensive line. He didn’t play football again until more than a year later, after his family moved to Austin, Texas. On the first day of practice for his middle-school team, he found himself in a familiar spot. “They had me on the O-line again,” Dicker recalled. “I was like, ‘This just sucks. This is not for me.’ ” Halfway through that season, Dicker told the coaches he wanted to try kicking, a decision that eventually would net him a nickname, recognition in high school and a scholarship to the University of Texas. “Dicker the Kicker” came from a science teacher Dicker had in middle school. “Mr. G,” he said. “Mr. Gonzales. He was the man.” A rookie, Dicker began his NFL career kicking and punting against the Chargers. With the Rams in training camp, he handled both duties when L.A.’s NFL teams met to open the preseason in August. Dicker finished the preseason with Baltimore before making his regular-season debut in Week 5 as an injury replacement for Philadelphia. When the Chargers lost Dustin Hopkins to a hamstring issue and Taylor Bertolet to a quadriceps injury, Dicker joined the team last week and kicked Sunday in Atlanta. In both of his NFL appearances to date, Dicker made a deciding field goal in the final two minutes for a 20-17 victory for his team. Both times he was named his conference’s Special Teams Player of the Week. Now, he’s preparing for this third career game, Sunday night when the Chargers visit San Francisco. “It’s kind of nuts that I’m in the position I’m in,” Dicker said, “and have been able to do what I’ve been able to do.” It’s kind of nuts, too, what has happened to the Chargers at the kicking position this year. Since moving to Los Angeles, they’ve used 13 kickers, including five during the 2017 season. Until this year, however, the issue was finding a kicker. Now, the Chargers keep finding them. Their threesome is a combined 14 of 15 on field goals and 20 of 20 on extra points. Only three teams — Seattle, Las Vegas and Chicago — have enjoyed better field-goal accuracy. The consistency is admirable given how inconsistent the position has been for this team from one Sunday to the next. “It’s a testament to these guys,” special teams coordinator Ryan Ficken said. “God has blessed these guys with a talented leg and the mindset to go ahead and be successful. It’s a testament to how they compete.” Hopkins, Bertolet and Dicker have made 30 consecutive kicks, the only miss on the season being a 49-yard field-goal attempt by Hopkins in the season opener. Each of the three has been awarded a game ball following a victory. All of this has signaled quite a departure from 2017 when, while he was warming up on the sideline to be an injury placement during a game in Dallas, punter Drew Kaser’s kick completely missed the practice net. “The history of kicking here, that doesn’t really faze me,” Ficken said. “That’s something where we turn the page … a completely different coaching staff. … Hats off to these players for taking ownership of it and helping our team win.” Etc. Wide receiver Keenan Allen (hamstring) and right tackle Trey Pipkins III (knee) again both missed practice Thursday, a sign that neither is likely to play against the 49ers. The Chargers also will be without wide receiver Mike Williams (ankle). Defensive lineman Jerry Tillery missed his second consecutive practice for what the Chargers have deemed a “personal” reason. ... Edge rusher Chris Rumph II (knee) and tight end Tre’ McKitty (hamstring) were limited in practice. www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/story/2022-11-10/dicker-the-kicker-chargers-49ers |
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 11, 2022 14:25:15 GMT -7
No surprise. 😌
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Post by moekid on Nov 11, 2022 15:29:29 GMT -7
Done with Keenan. Out since week 1-1st half- with a tweaked hamstring? Just running out for a pattern? We are in week 10. That’s crazy. Does he not want to play? |
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 11, 2022 21:18:43 GMT -7
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 11, 2022 21:59:57 GMT -7
The timing of this move speaks volumes about what transpired. Defensive lineman Austin Johnson suffered a season-ending knee injury Sunday in Atlanta. The Chargers need more interior defensive line depth, not less, after losing one of their starters and best run defenders. But the situation with Tillery had reached a breaking point, and it unraveled to an untenable place this week. Tillery and the Chargers coaching staff and front office had philosophical differences about his role on the team. Tillery’s role had diminished significantly after the Chargers made several moves on the interior of the defensive line this offseason, signing Johnson, Sebastian Joseph-Day and Morgan Fox in free agency and drafting Otito Ogbonnia in the fifth round. Tillery was no longer a featured player on run downs. Instead, the Chargers were trying to elevate his skill set by using him in more passing situations. Tillery is a decent pass rusher. He’s a liability in run defense. This was a logical way to get the most out of the player. But a byproduct of that was decreased playing time. Tillery played 79 percent of the defensive snaps last season. Through nine games this year, Tillery — who missed the Week 9 win over the Falcons with a back injury — had played 43 percent of the defensive snaps. “Competing visions for the role moving forward,” Staley said Friday when asked about the decision to move on from Tillery. “It just became clear that it wasn’t going to be a fit anymore. Where we’re headed as a team wasn’t going to be compatible with Jerry and where he is trying to go. So we felt like it was best to move forward.” Why didn’t those visions align? “He probably expects more for himself,” Staley said. “I think that where we’re at as a team and what we see, they’re two different places. That happens sometimes in the NFL. When you get to that point, you got to do what’s best for the team and what’s best for the player. That’s what we did here.” As recently as Sunday in Atlanta, the Chargers still had plans for Tillery as a depth piece on their defensive line. That is why they didn’t actively try to trade Tillery before the deadline earlier this month. Defensive line depth is key for a team down the homestretch and into the postseason. But Tillery was not happy with that role. After Johnson was placed on injured reserve, the Chargers signed defensive lineman Breiden Fehoko to their active roster. They expect to elevate defensive lineman Joe Gaziano to the active roster Saturday. Staley said Friday that Tillery was “not necessarily” going to take on a bigger role with Johnson out. The Chargers trust Fehoko and Gaziano more as run defenders, and Tillery’s role was unlikely to change much in Johnson’s absence. Tillery’s response this week forced the Chargers to make a move. There was friction with teammates. There was friction with the coaching staff. The situation became unsalvageable in the early part of this week. Tillery did not practice Wednesday or Thursday because of what the team called “personal reasons.” The Chargers informed Tillery of his release Thursday afternoon. “We felt like we were going to give Bre and Joe G a chance to compete,” Staley said. “Where we’re at and what we’re trying to do with our team on the defensive line, our defense, our whole team, we’re trying to create competition and have guys earn their roles. That’s what we want to be here. That’s what we want to do. When those things didn’t line up, we had to make a change.” The Chargers declined Tillery’s fifth-year option in May, meaning 2022 was the final year of his rookie deal. That decision set this deterioration in motion. Tillery could have gone one of two ways. He could have played well in his role and earned an extension. Instead, he went the other way, handling the declined option and diminished role in a way that precluded the Chargers from keeping him on the roster and in the building. “A lot of it is how you approach it,” Staley said when asked about a player handling a declined fifth-year option. “You try to approach it that way that, hey, when business decisions happen, you’re still pouring into each other, you’re still trying to make things work and create a vision for someone’s role. But sometimes it happens like that, and sometimes it happens like this. At the end of the day, you got to do what’s best for your team, and that’s what we did.” theathletic.com/3846441/2022/11/11/chargers-jerry-tillery-49ers/ |
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