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Post by frozendisc on Jan 28, 2023 9:07:47 GMT -7
Never said move on from KA... Freak tried to make it about money on drafting a WR and I showed him otherwise. You may very well be right about what's available at 21 or you could be wrong... Justin Jefferson was a 22nd pick. If Robinson is the only pick @ RB you would go with then that tells me you're not up to date on the talent available in the draft. Pacheco was a 7th rounder, Ekeler was undrafted. There is more out there than just Robinson. Ekeler might have wear but that is any back... Plus he is ONLY 27... Kelley is coming into his own. Nice try though. Rountree is trash and Spiller will be in his second year (although also likley trash) Ekeler's 12 TD's tell me it was playcalling MOSTLY. CB? That's fine if its BPA. What else do you guys got? I asked if you were moving on from KA.....of course you did not answer. Money plays a part in the decision.....so are you moving on from KA? Player evaluation is always tainted by personal bias, which is why clubs build a file with diverse evaluations on a prospect, and being wrong is a constant in scouting. My stated preference for the only RB I would choose with the 21st pick is simply my evaluation. Robinson makes the grade, the others do not. I know, I am wrong because history is littered with examples of late round super stars..... Reference the previous statement on being wrong as a scout. I am not 'trying' anything with my comment on Ekeler, it is simply something to take into consideration. You discard the concern, I consider it...... The reserve RB's are not the answer, they are simply reserve RB's. I think play calling, and scheme, were the primary drivers of the 30th ranking results. You are good with CB, "That's fine if its BPA", but conveniently have that caveat of "BPA"...... So stop being vague.....you are pushing for WR.....who is your pick at 21st?
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Post by sdc on Jan 28, 2023 9:28:52 GMT -7
Here's how it's going to play out. There's a good amount of first round QB talent that's not top 5. A QB or two will drop to 21, and a team that picked BPA or didn't have their first round pick (Denver) trades to get back into the first round to snag their QB. In return we get their high second round pick plus their third and fifth round picks. We use that high second to draft Darnell Washington. We use our second round pick, our third round pick plus their third round pick to add speed at WR a bruising RB and interior oline help. In a league that is built on talent we don't shuttle any of ours (Keenan, Joey et. al.). We add lots of young talent to insert or groom, giving us a bunch or cap friendly rookie deals in anticipation of big bucks going to Justin.
While Everett is serviceable, he is not dynamic in any way. Washington is a monster both in the running game and in the passing game. Washington should be a first rounder but sharing the field with Brock Bowers who is the best TE prospect of his generation, cut into is stats. Fix the running game, add a big time weapon at TE, a vertical threat at WR. And do it all while getting 4 impact players on small rookie contracts.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 28, 2023 9:53:24 GMT -7
Never said move on from KA... Freak tried to make it about money on drafting a WR and I showed him otherwise. You may very well be right about what's available at 21 or you could be wrong... Justin Jefferson was a 22nd pick. If Robinson is the only pick @ RB you would go with then that tells me you're not up to date on the talent available in the draft. Pacheco was a 7th rounder, Ekeler was undrafted. There is more out there than just Robinson. Ekeler might have wear but that is any back... Plus he is ONLY 27... Kelley is coming into his own. Nice try though. Rountree is trash and Spiller will be in his second year (although also likley trash) Ekeler's 12 TD's tell me it was playcalling MOSTLY. CB? That's fine if its BPA. What else do you guys got? I asked if you were moving on from KA.....of course you did not answer. Money plays a part in the decision.....so are you moving on from KA? Player evaluation is always tainted by personal bias, which is why clubs build a file with diverse evaluations on a prospect, and being wrong is a constant in scouting. My stated preference for the only RB I would choose with the 21st pick is simply my evaluation. Robinson makes the grade, the others do not. I know, I am wrong because history is littered with examples of late round super stars..... Reference the previous statement on being wrong as a scout. I am not 'trying' anything with my comment on Ekeler, it is simply something to take into consideration. You discard the concern, I consider it...... The reserve RB's are not the answer, they are simply reserve RB's. I think play calling, and scheme, were the primary drivers of the 30th ranking results. You are good with CB, "That's fine if its BPA", but conveniently have that caveat of "BPA"...... So stop being vague.....you are pushing for WR.....who is your pick at 21st? No I would not move on from KA.
No I'm not being vague at all, there is no other way for me to spell it out over the last several posts. You're just not comprehending.
Quentin Johnston Zay Flowers Jordan Addison Josh Downs JSN
I'd like us to move up and grab Johnston.
To be more specific... Trade our 4th for Johnston, Kincaid TE in the 2nd and whatever else 5-7... Get ya'lls RB in the 3rd I guess.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 29, 2023 7:06:34 GMT -7
RB Robinson can play WR too! Lmao. You can’t make this stuff up.
Robinson's talent level is what many NFL offenses build around. Even the biggest running back haters here at PFF recognize the value he brings to the table. I wrote all about exactly why that is earlier this season. The SparkNotes version: He has ideal size, breaks tackles at a rate we’ve never seen and can pass as a wide receiver in a pinch.
Bijan is simply capable of things other running backs in this class can only dream of. The way he sinks out of his cuts is reminiscent of a race car banking around a turn. He finished with 104 broken tackles this season — a PFF college record.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 29, 2023 7:26:33 GMT -7
If he is there at 21 and there as been a run at WR then by all means I hope they take him. Esp if he is BPA... Maybe we can get a free agent WR to help us out, this WR class is not as deep as RB.
Robinson, Kincaid or Washington at TE would be a nice consolation...
Either way, when KA and MW inevitably miss games next year, the "I told you so" will be fun.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 29, 2023 7:27:28 GMT -7
I asked if you were moving on from KA.....of course you did not answer. Money plays a part in the decision.....so are you moving on from KA? Player evaluation is always tainted by personal bias, which is why clubs build a file with diverse evaluations on a prospect, and being wrong is a constant in scouting. My stated preference for the only RB I would choose with the 21st pick is simply my evaluation. Robinson makes the grade, the others do not. I know, I am wrong because history is littered with examples of late round super stars..... Reference the previous statement on being wrong as a scout. I am not 'trying' anything with my comment on Ekeler, it is simply something to take into consideration. You discard the concern, I consider it...... The reserve RB's are not the answer, they are simply reserve RB's. I think play calling, and scheme, were the primary drivers of the 30th ranking results. You are good with CB, "That's fine if its BPA", but conveniently have that caveat of "BPA"...... So stop being vague.....you are pushing for WR.....who is your pick at 21st? No I would not move on from KA.
No I'm not being vague at all, there is no other way for me to spell it out over the last several posts. You're just not comprehending.
Quentin Johnston Zay Flowers Jordan Addison Josh Downs JSN
I'd like us to move up and grab Johnston.
To be more specific... Trade our 4th for Johnston, Kincaid TE in the 2nd and whatever else 5-7... Get ya'lls RB in the 3rd I guess.
If TT restructures KA's contract, we both know WR won't be the pick in round 1.......
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 29, 2023 7:29:08 GMT -7
If he is there at 21 and there as been a run at WR then by all means I hope they take him. Esp if he is BPA... Maybe we can get a free agent WR to help us out, this WR class is not as deep as RB. Robinson, Kincaid or Washington at TE would be a nice consolation... Either way, when KA and MW inevitably miss games next year, the "I told you so" will be fun. Just watch......TT will go defence....CB or DL....maybe Edge
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 29, 2023 8:33:14 GMT -7
If he is there at 21 and there as been a run at WR then by all means I hope they take him. Esp if he is BPA... Maybe we can get a free agent WR to help us out, this WR class is not as deep as RB. Robinson, Kincaid or Washington at TE would be a nice consolation... Either way, when KA and MW inevitably miss games next year, the "I told you so" will be fun. You don’t have the Notre Dame TE as top 3 TE in the draft ?? |
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 29, 2023 10:35:35 GMT -7
No I would not move on from KA.
No I'm not being vague at all, there is no other way for me to spell it out over the last several posts. You're just not comprehending.
Quentin Johnston Zay Flowers Jordan Addison Josh Downs JSN
I'd like us to move up and grab Johnston.
To be more specific... Trade our 4th for Johnston, Kincaid TE in the 2nd and whatever else 5-7... Get ya'lls RB in the 3rd I guess.
If TT restructures KA's contract, we both know WR won't be the pick in round 1....... What's your reasoning for that?
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 29, 2023 10:38:06 GMT -7
If he is there at 21 and there as been a run at WR then by all means I hope they take him. Esp if he is BPA... Maybe we can get a free agent WR to help us out, this WR class is not as deep as RB. Robinson, Kincaid or Washington at TE would be a nice consolation... Either way, when KA and MW inevitably miss games next year, the "I told you so" will be fun. You don’t have the Notre Dame TE as top 3 TE in the draft ?? I think Kincaid is a better receiver.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 29, 2023 10:49:45 GMT -7
If TT restructures KA's contract, we both know WR won't be the pick in round 1....... What's your reasoning for that? Well I think with KA restructured (if that gets done), MW and Palmer already under contract, TT will use his first round pick elsewhere. As I posted earlier..... CB, DL and or Edge seem to be a TT direction. TT could surprise, going TE, WR or RB, but I do not see it. I wonder how comfortable the Chargers are with Jackson's rehab.....will he still be the player they hoped for? If not, CB round 1 for sure.
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Post by sdc on Jan 29, 2023 14:10:49 GMT -7
You don’t have the Notre Dame TE as top 3 TE in the draft ?? I think Kincaid is a better receiver. If we draft a TE in the first round, he needs to impact the running game as much as being a go to guy for Justin.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 29, 2023 15:58:48 GMT -7
I think Kincaid is a better receiver. If we draft a TE in the first round, he needs to impact the running game as much as being a go to guy for Justin. Agreed. I was thinking Kincaid/Washington in the second. If we took Mayer in the first because he was BPA weapon for Herbert, I wouldn't be mad. I could also see TT totally surprising all of us and doing what frozen said and drafting a CB because Jackson is likely done.
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Post by sdc on Jan 29, 2023 17:25:15 GMT -7
If we draft a TE in the first round, he needs to impact the running game as much as being a go to guy for Justin. Agreed. I was thinking Kincaid/Washington in the second. If we took Mayer in the first because he was BPA weapon for Herbert, I wouldn't be mad. I could also see TT totally surprising all of us and doing what frozen said and drafting a CB because Jackson is likely done.
I'm on the record being a huge Washington fan. I think he will be a better pro and he was pretty damn good at UGA. Drafting a CB seems highly likely, even if JC makes a full recovery. Staley loves him some DB's.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 30, 2023 5:52:26 GMT -7
If we draft a TE in the first round, he needs to impact the running game as much as being a go to guy for Justin. Agreed. I was thinking Kincaid/Washington in the second. If we took Mayer in the first because he was BPA weapon for Herbert, I wouldn't be mad. I could also see TT totally surprising all of us and doing what frozen said and drafting a CB because Jackson is likely done.
Glad I could help you.
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