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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 9, 2024 8:32:33 GMT -7
FanDuel as of June 16th 2024
San Francisco 49ers: +600 (bet $10 to win $70 total)
Kansas City Chiefs: +600 (bet $10 to win $70 total)
Baltimore Ravens: +950 (bet $10 to win $105 total)
Detroit Lions: +1300 (bet $10 to win $140 total)
Cincinnati Bengals: +1400 (bet $10 to win $150 total)
Philadelphia Eagles: +1400 (bet $10 to win $150 total)
Buffalo Bills: +1500 (bet $10 to win $160 total)
Houston Texans: +1600 (bet $10 to win $170 total)
Dallas Cowboys: +1600 (bet $10 to win $170 total)
Green Bay Packers: +1900 (bet $10 to win $200 total)
New York Jets: +2000 (bet $10 to win $210 total)
Miami Dolphins: +2400 (bet $10 to win $250 total)
Atlanta Falcons: +2400 (bet $10 to win $250 total)
Los Angeles Rams: +3000 (bet $10 to win $310 total)
Cleveland Browns: +4000 (bet $10 to win $410 total)
Los Angeles Chargers: +4000 (bet $10 to win $410 total)
Chicago Bears: +4000 (bet $10 to win $410 total)
Jacksonville Jaguars: +4500 (bet $10 to win $460 total)
Pittsburgh Steelers: +5000 (bet $10 to win $510 total)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: +5500 (bet $10 to win $560 total)
Indianapolis Colts: +5500 (bet $10 to win $560 total)
Seattle Seahawks: +6500 (bet $10 to win $660 total)
Arizona Cardinals: +8000 (bet $10 to win $810 total)
Minnesota Vikings: +8000 (bet $10 to win $810 total)
New Orleans Saints: +9000 (bet $10 to win $910 total)
Las Vegas Raiders: +10000 (bet $10 to win $1,010 total)
Washington Commanders: +12000 (bet $10 to win $1,210 total)
Tennessee Titans: +15000 (bet $10 to win $1,510 total)
New York Giants: +15000 (bet $10 to win $1,510 total)
Denver Broncos: +18000 (bet $10 to win $1,810 total)
New England Patriots: +25000 (bet $10 to win $2,510 total)
Carolina Panthers: +30000 (bet $10 to win $3,010 total)
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 9, 2024 8:35:59 GMT -7
If I wanted to go crazy...........Jets at 20-1. Pittsburgh at 50-1. I think Cleveland at 40-1 is too high as well.
All told, I would name Pittsburgh at 50-1 the longshot bet to make. It has to be that high because it is the toughest division in the NFL (because I said it is). It is the tougher Conf, just to win it all to go through.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 9, 2024 16:43:00 GMT -7
So where does a 40-1 odds put them relative to all the other clubs? Just above middle I would assume..... Smack dab in the middle: 16th. One must assume the oddsmakers realize the Chargers hired Horitz and Harbaugh, and clearly included those hires in their calculus. Just imagine where the Chargers might be listed if Staley had been retained...... Clearly this roster is not that talented. Harbaugh and rabbits out of the hat......
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 9, 2024 16:56:44 GMT -7
Smack dab in the middle: 16th. One must assume the oddsmakers realize the Chargers hired Horitz and Harbaugh, and clearly included those hires in their calculus. Just imagine where the Chargers might be listed if Staley had been retained...... Clearly this roster is not that talented. Harbaugh and rabbits out of the hat...... You assume too much Puck. But I stand accused of same. They're just going to have to show us.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 9, 2024 17:50:15 GMT -7
One must assume the oddsmakers realize the Chargers hired Horitz and Harbaugh, and clearly included those hires in their calculus. Just imagine where the Chargers might be listed if Staley had been retained...... Clearly this roster is not that talented. Harbaugh and rabbits out of the hat...... You assume too much Puck. But I stand accused of same. They're just going to have to show us. The oddsmakers earn their living by not breaking the bank....so one must believe to an extent. I made my living evaluating ice hockey players, so don't trust me at all..... As I have said, Harbaugh might create 5-6 new probowl players, and win more than any expect. The unknown.....why they play the games.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 9, 2024 17:56:04 GMT -7
Smack dab in the middle: 16th. One must assume the oddsmakers realize the Chargers hired Horitz and Harbaugh, and clearly included those hires in their calculus. Just imagine where the Chargers might be listed if Staley had been retained...... Clearly this roster is not that talented. Harbaugh and rabbits out of the hat...... Clearly I think you're the only one who believes that.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 10, 2024 5:11:51 GMT -7
Smack dab in the middle: 16th. One must assume the oddsmakers realize the Chargers hired Horitz and Harbaugh, and clearly included those hires in their calculus. Just imagine where the Chargers might be listed if Staley had been retained...... Clearly this roster is not that talented. Harbaugh and rabbits out of the hat...... We finished about 27th last year. So for them to have us at 16th, it is def. the Harbaugh effect, and it should be. We ain't winning no 5 games this year. If he has to skin players on the field that is not happening.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 10, 2024 5:14:00 GMT -7
Look at it this way, if they are projecting us around 16th, 14 teams make the playoffs ...................................
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 10, 2024 5:59:52 GMT -7
One must assume the oddsmakers realize the Chargers hired Horitz and Harbaugh, and clearly included those hires in their calculus. Just imagine where the Chargers might be listed if Staley had been retained...... Clearly this roster is not that talented. Harbaugh and rabbits out of the hat...... Clearly I think you're the only one who believes that. Well, me and whomever are the 'oddsmakers'......
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 10, 2024 6:00:48 GMT -7
Look at it this way, if they are projecting us around 16th, 14 teams make the playoffs ................................... Like I have said several times, 2025 is the season to have expectations.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 10, 2024 7:22:49 GMT -7
Look at it this way, if they are projecting us around 16th, 14 teams make the playoffs ................................... Like I have said several times, 2025 is the season to have expectations. I agree with that and I will up the ante on Forecasts to new heights for you right here !!!!!!! Another year of free agency where we will have lots of Cap space, and we get to draft again. The Chargers will be in the Super Bowl for the 2025 Season !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 10, 2024 8:28:06 GMT -7
Like I have said several times, 2025 is the season to have expectations. I agree with that and I will up the ante on Forecasts to new heights for you right here !!!!!!! Another year of free agency where we will have lots of Cap space, and we get to draft again. The Chargers will be in the Super Bowl for the 2025 Season !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, they will have lost the contracts they needed to lose in 2024, for the most part at least. Harbaugh will have implemented his raising of the standards in 2024, and by the off season he will know who else needs to go. Horitz will have a ton of available Cap space, and another draft, making the 2025 season one of higher expectations. Will they make the Super Bowl? Well there are always 4-6 clubs that are right there, so getting the previously mentioned right bounces will determine who is in, eh
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 10, 2024 9:50:48 GMT -7
My general response is this: to start a culture of winning, Harbaugh does not intend to start by losing. To win he intends to install a TEAM culture that does not depend solely on top rated individuals, rather position groups that play complementary TEAM football for each other. We have a scattering of elite football talent along with promising young athletes, an elite leader at HC and carefully selected assistants.
Whatever conventional thinking says is likely is unlikely when applied to the very unconventional Jim Harbaugh.
IMO this is a one of a kind situation. Harbaugh's plan for 2025 is for that to be his second Super Bowl with the Chargers.
His good luck will be the product of faith, hard work, extraordinary planning and football experience.
A wildcard is the absolute floor for this team. We are NOT last year's Chargers recycled. Screw a bunch of pre 2024 Chargers records.
The odds makers are comfortable with promising $8,000 for $20 if we win the SB because they want your $20. We really are a long shot to be the SB winner. That said, it's a gamble, We really are going for it and Harbaugh has beaten the odds before.
Get ready for some fun.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 10, 2024 10:59:39 GMT -7
My general response is this: to start a culture of winning, Harbaugh does not intend to start by losing. To win he intends to install a TEAM culture that does not depend solely on top rated individuals, rather position groups that play complementary TEAM football for each other. We have a scattering of elite football talent along with promising young athletes, an elite leader at HC and carefully selected assistants. Whatever conventional thinking says is likely is unlikely when applied to the very unconventional Jim Harbaugh. IMO this is a one of a kind situation. Harbaugh's plan for 2025 is for that to be his second Super Bowl with the Chargers. His good luck will be the product of faith, hard work, extraordinary planning and football experience. A wildcard is the absolute floor for this team. We are NOT last year's Chargers recycled. Screw a bunch of pre 2024 Chargers records. The odds makers are comfortable with promising $8,000 for $20 if we win the SB because they want your $20. We really are a long shot to be the SB winner. That said, it's a gamble, We really are going for it and Harbaugh has beaten the odds before. Get ready for some fun. $800 for $20.
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 10, 2024 15:54:25 GMT -7
My general response is this: to start a culture of winning, Harbaugh does not intend to start by losing. To win he intends to install a TEAM culture that does not depend solely on top rated individuals, rather position groups that play complementary TEAM football for each other. We have a scattering of elite football talent along with promising young athletes, an elite leader at HC and carefully selected assistants. Whatever conventional thinking says is likely is unlikely when applied to the very unconventional Jim Harbaugh. IMO this is a one of a kind situation. Harbaugh's plan for 2025 is for that to be his second Super Bowl with the Chargers. His good luck will be the product of faith, hard work, extraordinary planning and football experience. A wildcard is the absolute floor for this team. We are NOT last year's Chargers recycled. Screw a bunch of pre 2024 Chargers records. The odds makers are comfortable with promising $8,000 for $20 if we win the SB because they want your $20. We really are a long shot to be the SB winner. That said, it's a gamble, We really are going for it and Harbaugh has beaten the odds before. Get ready for some fun. $800 for $20. No wonder I don't bet. 
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