|
|
Post by topcat on Mar 3, 2019 21:26:17 GMT -7
Okay, mods, you can merge a lot of the comments from the Josh Rosen thread regarding Lamp's future. I personally feel a lot of people on this board are not giving a fully healed Lamp a true chance to go through TC, preseason games, then the regular season. If, after all this, he still can't beat out any of our O-linemen for a starting job, then I would reluctantly drag out the dreaded "B" word...we (most of us I hope) are rooting for you, Forrest!
|
|
|
|
Post by diehardcharge on Mar 3, 2019 21:30:42 GMT -7
Okay, mods, you can merge a lot of the comments from the Josh Rosen thread regarding Lamp's future. I personally feel a lot of people on this board are not giving a fully healed Lamp a true chance to go through TC, preseason games, then the regular season. If, after all this, he still can't beat out any of our O-linemen for a starting job, then I would reluctantly drag out the dreaded "B" word...we (most of us I hope) are rooting for you, Forrest! Can’t call him a bust when coaches aren’t giving him a “fair” chance to compete. Injuries have plagued him but we’ll see. I want to see him in a game for a full game. |
|
|
|
Post by topcat on Mar 3, 2019 21:36:32 GMT -7
Okay, mods, you can merge a lot of the comments from the Josh Rosen thread regarding Lamp's future. I personally feel a lot of people on this board are not giving a fully healed Lamp a true chance to go through TC, preseason games, then the regular season. If, after all this, he still can't beat out any of our O-linemen for a starting job, then I would reluctantly drag out the dreaded "B" word...we (most of us I hope) are rooting for you, Forrest! Can’t call him a bust when coaches aren’t giving him a “fair” chance to compete. Injuries have plagued him but we’ll see. I want to see him in a game for a full game. Good point...think of it...we have yet to see Lamp play a complete game and people are already calling for him to be traded or cut...and pre-draft, he was considered by a lot of draftniks to be the best O-lineman in the draft...for crying out loud, people, give the dude a chance!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by sonorajim on Mar 3, 2019 21:42:35 GMT -7
I will wait to see if he wins a starting job in 2019.
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Mar 3, 2019 21:57:46 GMT -7
Can’t call him a bust when coaches aren’t giving him a “fair” chance to compete. Injuries have plagued him but we’ll see. I want to see him in a game for a full game. Good point...think of it...we have yet to see Lamp play a complete game and people are already calling for him to be traded or cut...and pre-draft, he was considered by a lot of draftniks to be the best O-lineman in the draft...for crying out loud, people, give the dude a chance!!! Lamp's expectations, or pre draft evaluations by the experts, were all before he suffered a serious ACL injury. Lamp has been fully cleared to play for the back half the most recent season, yet could not supplant poorly playing OG's. So...for crying out loud, the guy has had opportunity each and every week, but nothing. Is the coaching staff to be believed: "we do not want to mess with the chemistry"......what a crock.....talent plays, especially when there is a need. There was a big need.....no Lamp. There is a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with chemistry. For me, it is now an evaluation on is Lamp a reserve, or a bust pick due to injury. TC will decide that. Those of you hoping to see that Lamp talent that was drafted are going to be quite disappointed....in my opinion.
|
|
|
|
Post by lvboltfan on Mar 3, 2019 22:27:02 GMT -7
I think it is more mental than physical Lamp said he wasn't ready to play until the middle of the season. He only played the second half of the last pre-season game against the nuners.
|
|
|
|
Post by afboltfan on Mar 4, 2019 5:44:16 GMT -7
Good point...think of it...we have yet to see Lamp play a complete game and people are already calling for him to be traded or cut...and pre-draft, he was considered by a lot of draftniks to be the best O-lineman in the draft...for crying out loud, people, give the dude a chance!!! Lamp's expectations, or pre draft evaluations by the experts, were all before he suffered a serious ACL injury. Lamp has been fully cleared to play for the back half the most recent season, yet could not supplant poorly playing OG's. So...for crying out loud, the guy has had opportunity each and every week, but nothing. Is the coaching staff to be believed: "we do not want to mess with the chemistry"......what a crock.....talent plays, especially when there is a need. There was a big need.....no Lamp. There is a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with chemistry. For me, it is now an evaluation on is Lamp a reserve, or a bust pick due to injury. TC will decide that. Those of you hoping to see that Lamp talent that was drafted are going to be quite disappointed....in my opinion. /agree with everything frozen says... Except, I still think Lamp can start if he goes in and competes and has a healthy training camp.
|
|
|
|
Post by woodeye on Mar 4, 2019 7:13:40 GMT -7
Lamp's expectations, or pre draft evaluations by the experts, were all before he suffered a serious ACL injury. Lamp has been fully cleared to play for the back half the most recent season, yet could not supplant poorly playing OG's. So...for crying out loud, the guy has had opportunity each and every week, but nothing. Is the coaching staff to be believed: "we do not want to mess with the chemistry"......what a crock.....talent plays, especially when there is a need. There was a big need.....no Lamp. There is a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with chemistry. For me, it is now an evaluation on is Lamp a reserve, or a bust pick due to injury. TC will decide that. Those of you hoping to see that Lamp talent that was drafted are going to be quite disappointed....in my opinion. /agree with everything frozen says... Except, if he goes in and competes and has a healthy training camp.
LOL...ie you disagree with everything frozen is saying. |
|
|
|
Post by topcat on Mar 4, 2019 9:17:07 GMT -7
So far, 6 "no" votes and ZERO "yes" votes--so looks like NOBODY thinks Lamp is a bust...looks like nobody wants to go on record calling him a bust until after TC, preseason and at least a few regular season games...which is what I've been saying from the get-go--give the guy a chance...
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Mar 4, 2019 9:31:55 GMT -7
So far, 6 "no" votes and ZERO "yes" votes--so looks like NOBODY thinks Lamp is a bust...looks like nobody wants to go on record calling him a bust until after TC, preseason and at least a few regular season games...which is what I've been saying from the get-go--give the guy a chance... Your poll is a bit scripted to garner a certain outcome. Should the Bolts release Lamp today ? Nope. Should Lamp be penciled in as a starter today ? Nope. Should Lamp be penciled in as a definite reserve player today ? Nope. Should the Bolts wait and see how Lamp does in TC 2019 before making any decisions ? Yes. The poll I just wrote above does the exact same thing. It is the problem with most polls. I think Lamp is a bust pick due to injury, and have had that position for a good while. What I think has zero bearing on this. The Bolts have no reason to release Lamp, and every reason to give him another TC. If I added the following question to my fake poll from above, do you think there would be a splitting of the vote ? * Should Lamp be considered a bust pick if he is only a reserve player his entire career ?
|
|
|
|
Post by diehardcharge on Mar 4, 2019 9:40:39 GMT -7
I guess you can say that Lamp is a bust based on the round he was picked in associated with his inability to get on to the field but as a player it is yet to be determined. People call Clowney a bust after two years of injury but look at him now. This could be Lamps year to showcase his skills and beat out Schofield.
|
|
|
|
Post by Chargeroo on Mar 4, 2019 10:46:11 GMT -7
I've never thought a player is bust because he was injured playing for the team. I think a "bust" is a guy that simply doesn't have the ability to play in the NFL. As for those saying he couldn't crack the starting lineup even though our OG's were not playing well. That's NOT what Lynn said - he said he didn't want to take a chance on messing up the chemistry of the OL late in the season. You could make a point by saying Lynn over estimated that chemistry - but that's not Lamps fault.
Now, if he can't make it into thew starting lineup this year - then, I'd say he is a bust, but I'm betting he'll take over one of the Guard spots and play well.
|
|
|
|
Post by superpowers on Mar 4, 2019 10:54:24 GMT -7
My expectations are as low as they can be for someone we drafted in the second round. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he has a lot to prove. He will need to play--emphasis on "play"--like a third-year pro with glimpses of a player who will be in the league for a while. Did I mention that he needs to "play"? If he doesn't, or his quality of play is not that of a third-year pro, he's a bust. One more year.
|
|
|
|
Post by woodeye on Mar 4, 2019 11:27:29 GMT -7
My expectations are as low as they can be for someone we drafted in the second round. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he has a lot to prove. He will need to play--emphasis on "play"--like a third-year pro with glimpses of a player who will be in the league for a while. Did I mention that he needs to "play"? If he doesn't, or his quality of play is not that of a third-year pro, he's a bust. One more year. There are huge differences in the argumentation on this subject. pacstud/frozendisc. Experienced in the fields of personnel, coaching, claim that they can tell Lamp is a bust. It is self-evident they say, based upon their previous experiences. Others are willing to wait and see. In my case, it is based upon studying meticulously Lamp's movements in the limited snaps he received in the 2018 regular season, and comparing that to his college tape. Do you trust the intuition of the mystics, or do you listen to wood, with his famous scout's eye ?
|
|
|
|
Post by sdc on Mar 4, 2019 11:45:28 GMT -7
If you were to ask me that question two months ago, I would have said no. Now I would say that he is a bust. The fact that he hasn't accomplished anything in 2019 is very alarming.
|
|
