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Post by totallybolted on Sept 11, 2019 14:27:19 GMT -7
The federal lawsuit was months in the making. Rosey & AB knew it was coming. Wonder if they shared that information with BB and Kraft?With 15 million on the table and Kraft out of town at the parlor ?!?!?!?!?!?!
HA. No way.
I don't know. With Kraft he may have actually liked the story. imjustsayin
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 12, 2019 2:32:35 GMT -7
With 15 million on the table and Kraft out of town at the parlor ?!?!?!?!?!?!
HA. No way.
I don't know. With Kraft he may have actually liked the story. imjustsayin Post Freak Approved. I had forgotten................We have Kraft, last years NFL Freak of the Year, with Brown now. Marriage made in Freakville.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 12, 2019 7:23:40 GMT -7
You don't have to be neutral, or picks sides, or anything. You can post your opinion freely on here.
More things that are amiss: You wait until the day he arrives in NE for this to come out ? They both went to college at the same time and had a relationship there. Then years later, they reconnected. The other side of the story is she wanted him to introduce her to the right people for her business to take off. Things went south from there.
Not picking sides, but there is another side here. I know his agent was pretty fast to say he would be cleared.
The federal lawsuit was months in the making. Rosey & AB knew it was coming. Wonder if they shared that information with BB and Kraft?This ended up being a genius question. I guess the media is trying to dig the hell up on this information. Currently BB is giving them the "No comment" business.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 12, 2019 16:46:34 GMT -7
Translation: BB is PO'd while Rosey and AB will hide behind the sleazy "We couldn't tell ya!" pigeon droppings. Sources: Pats unaware AB involved in civil matterJeremy Fowler ESPN Staff Writer Representatives for New England Patriots receiver Antonio Brown and Britney Taylor were in discussions over the past few months, but agreed their communication would remain confidential until the filing of Taylor's civil sexual assault lawsuit, sources told ESPN on Thursday. This, the sources say, is why the Patriots and the Oakland Raiders, who released Brown last weekend, would not have known about the matter unless there was a breach in the confidentiality of those discussions. Though the exact nature of the talks has not been confirmed, it is common practice for settlement talks to occur before a civil filing. Taylor, Brown's former trainer, filed a lawsuit with the Southern District of Florida accusing Brown of sexually assaulting her on three occasions. The discussions help explain why Brown did not notify the Raiders or the Patriots about the matter. Taylor has scheduled a meeting with the NFL for next week, according to a source. The league has the option to place Brown on the commissioner's exempt list -- which would remove him from the team's active list while still being paid -- but might not levy that decision this week. Brown is expected to meet with the league at some point, and the Patriots -- who signed Brown on Monday, two days after his short-lived, messy tenure with Oakland ended -- have stated they take the matter seriously. One high-ranking team source said players are not obligated to notify a team about a civil case before signing a free-agent contract. When it rises to a criminal case, he says, that dynamic obviously changes. www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27602699/pats-unaware-ab-involved-civil-matter |
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 12, 2019 19:29:18 GMT -7
One other note: It has been asked why she waited so long to file the lawsuit. Why? Because none of AB's new contract money was scheduled to be guaranteed until until the eve of the regular season with the Raiders. No doubt that the two set of attorneys were negotiating, and she was getting ready to file the lawsuit after the Raiders money was guaranteed - a mutually agreeable situation. AB and Rosey neglected to give the Raiders a heads up about that little to do, but AB went out and blew it all up on the eve of Game 1. Her attorneys then had to wait for AB to sign with the Patriots before filing the lawsuit after the secret negotiations had ended without an agreement. It would have made no sense to file the lawsuit before AB had contract $$$ secured because that would have made it pretty darned hard for AB to sign any contract (let alone a big $$$ one), so the terrific twosome kept Billy B and Krafty in the dark as well. The Raiduhs are surprisingly breathing a big sigh of relief (then again, maybe not so surprisingly after the last month) while the Patsies are pissed. Personally, there's a bit of a schadenfreude feeling regarding BB's current situation where he is no doubt stewing!!  |
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Post by totallybolted on Sept 12, 2019 19:36:22 GMT -7
hmmm...
maybe the dolphins would be a better pick
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 13, 2019 6:46:27 GMT -7
One other note: It has been asked why she waited so long to file the lawsuit. Why? Because none of AB's new contract money was scheduled to be guaranteed until until the eve of the regular season with the Raiders. No doubt that the two set of attorneys were negotiating, and she was getting ready to file the lawsuit after the Raiders money was guaranteed - a mutually agreeable situation. AB and Rosey neglected to give the Raiders a heads up about that little to do, but AB went out and blew it all up on the eve of Game 1. Her attorneys then had to wait for AB to sign with the Patriots before filing the lawsuit after the secret negotiations had ended without an agreement. It would have made no sense to file the lawsuit before AB had contract $$$ secured because that would have made it pretty darned hard for AB to sign any contract (let alone a big $$$ one), so the terrific twosome kept Billy B and Krafty in the dark as well. The Raiduhs are surprisingly breathing a big sigh of relief (then again, maybe not so surprisingly after the last month) while the Patsies are pissed. Personally, there's a bit of a schadenfreude feeling regarding BB's current situation where he is no doubt stewing!! I suspect the Patriots are being pragmatic about this. Clearly AB had no obligation to notify any perspective club about this issue, and as such, chose not to. The Patriots saw an opportunity to secure a significant talent, and proceeded to do just that. Will the signing end up costing the Patriots anything other than money, probably not. As long as this is a 'civil' case, my guess is the league stays out of it, AB plays, and the Patriots enjoy the benefits of their gamble.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 13, 2019 6:56:17 GMT -7
One other note: It has been asked why she waited so long to file the lawsuit. Why? Because none of AB's new contract money was scheduled to be guaranteed until until the eve of the regular season with the Raiders. No doubt that the two set of attorneys were negotiating, and she was getting ready to file the lawsuit after the Raiders money was guaranteed - a mutually agreeable situation. AB and Rosey neglected to give the Raiders a heads up about that little to do, but AB went out and blew it all up on the eve of Game 1. Her attorneys then had to wait for AB to sign with the Patriots before filing the lawsuit after the secret negotiations had ended without an agreement. It would have made no sense to file the lawsuit before AB had contract $$$ secured because that would have made it pretty darned hard for AB to sign any contract (let alone a big $$$ one), so the terrific twosome kept Billy B and Krafty in the dark as well. The Raiduhs are surprisingly breathing a big sigh of relief (then again, maybe not so surprisingly after the last month) while the Patsies are pissed. Personally, there's a bit of a schadenfreude feeling regarding BB's current situation where he is no doubt stewing!! I suspect the Patriots are being pragmatic about this. Clearly AB had no obligation to notify any perspective club about this issue, and as such, chose not to. The Patriots saw an opportunity to secure a significant talent, and proceeded to do just that. Will the signing end up costing the Patriots anything other than money, probably not. As long as this is a 'civil' case, my guess is the league stays out of it, AB plays, and the Patriots enjoy the benefits of their gamble. That depends. The league meets with the alleged victim next week, and without a criminal case being present they are allowed to fully proceed with an investigation without any worries of interfering with a criminal investigation. In the short term, that could actually work out worse for AB (and the Patriots) than if there was a criminal investigation present. If the league finds the alleged victim's statements to be not credible, then AB will be allowed to play. If she is credible, I see AB going on paid leave and the circus to continue, much to BB and Krafty's chagrin. Yes, the Patsies will only be out of some money, but one thing that BB detests above all others is chaos.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2019 8:14:42 GMT -7
I suspect the Patriots are being pragmatic about this. Clearly AB had no obligation to notify any perspective club about this issue, and as such, chose not to. The Patriots saw an opportunity to secure a significant talent, and proceeded to do just that. Will the signing end up costing the Patriots anything other than money, probably not. As long as this is a 'civil' case, my guess is the league stays out of it, AB plays, and the Patriots enjoy the benefits of their gamble. That depends. The league meets with the alleged victim next week, and without a criminal case being present they are allowed to fully proceed with an investigation without any worries of interfering with a criminal investigation. In the short term, that could actually work out worse for AB (and the Patriots) than if there was a criminal investigation present. If the league finds the alleged victim's statements to be not credible, then AB will be allowed to play. If she is credible, I see AB going on paid leave and the circus to continue, much to BB and Krafty's chagrin. Yes, the Patsies will only be out of some money, but one thing that BB detests above all others is chaos. The league will do nothing. He said/she said. Give the league ratings and revenue. Talent plays. That is all.
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 13, 2019 8:28:46 GMT -7
I suspect the Patriots are being pragmatic about this. Clearly AB had no obligation to notify any perspective club about this issue, and as such, chose not to. The Patriots saw an opportunity to secure a significant talent, and proceeded to do just that. Will the signing end up costing the Patriots anything other than money, probably not. As long as this is a 'civil' case, my guess is the league stays out of it, AB plays, and the Patriots enjoy the benefits of their gamble. That depends. The league meets with the alleged victim next week, and without a criminal case being present they are allowed to fully proceed with an investigation without any worries of interfering with a criminal investigation. In the short term, that could actually work out worse for AB (and the Patriots) than if there was a criminal investigation present. If the league finds the alleged victim's statements to be not credible, then AB will be allowed to play. If she is credible, I see AB going on paid leave and the circus to continue, much to BB and Krafty's chagrin. Yes, the Patsies will only be out of some money, but one thing that BB detests above all others is chaos. First off, the league can investigate all they want, criminal or civil actions ongoing inhibit the league in no fashion. That said, I get the usual path is if there is a criminal investigation ongoing, would be to wait and see the outcome before taking any additional actions. There is no such investigation at this point, at least none being reported. So at this point this is a civil case, and I stand by the belief the league takes no action. They will of course do their due diligence, talk to both sides, put on a good look/show.....just in case it blows up in some way. I am thinking BB is no different than any other HC, they all hate distractions.
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 13, 2019 8:46:37 GMT -7
That depends. The league meets with the alleged victim next week, and without a criminal case being present they are allowed to fully proceed with an investigation without any worries of interfering with a criminal investigation. In the short term, that could actually work out worse for AB (and the Patriots) than if there was a criminal investigation present. If the league finds the alleged victim's statements to be not credible, then AB will be allowed to play. If she is credible, I see AB going on paid leave and the circus to continue, much to BB and Krafty's chagrin. Yes, the Patsies will only be out of some money, but one thing that BB detests above all others is chaos. First off, the league can investigate all they want, criminal or civil actions ongoing inhibit the league in no fashion. That said, I get the usual path is if there is a criminal investigation ongoing, would be to wait and see the outcome before taking any additional actions. There is no such investigation at this point, at least none being reported. So at this point this is a civil case, and I stand by the belief the league takes no action. They will of course do their due diligence, talk to both sides, put on a good look/show.....just in case it blows up in some way. I am thinking BB is no different than any other HC, they all hate distractions. They all hate distractions, but BB takes it to a different level - an attribute that describes his coaching style in many different areas. I get the feeling that the alleged victim in this case isn't going away easily, and it depends on what evidence she has accumulated over the years beyond the text messages that are as bad as Tyreek Hill's phone message to his then-wife. At a minimum, gonna be news on the drama every week, and we haven't even gotten into the antics that AB is going to pull once he "settles" into NE unless he has an on/off cra-cra switch in his helmet.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 13, 2019 11:11:52 GMT -7
First off, the league can investigate all they want, criminal or civil actions ongoing inhibit the league in no fashion. That said, I get the usual path is if there is a criminal investigation ongoing, would be to wait and see the outcome before taking any additional actions. There is no such investigation at this point, at least none being reported. So at this point this is a civil case, and I stand by the belief the league takes no action. They will of course do their due diligence, talk to both sides, put on a good look/show.....just in case it blows up in some way. I am thinking BB is no different than any other HC, they all hate distractions. They all hate distractions, but BB takes it to a different level - an attribute that describes his coaching style in many different areas. I get the feeling that the alleged victim in this case isn't going away easily, and it depends on what evidence she has accumulated over the years beyond the text messages that are as bad as Tyreek Hill's phone message to his then-wife. At a minimum, gonna be news on the drama every week, and we haven't even gotten into the antics that AB is going to pull once he "settles" into NE unless he has an on/off cra-cra switch in his helmet. Harder than the devil to install those in a leather helmet.
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Post by moekid on Sept 13, 2019 13:11:23 GMT -7
That depends. The league meets with the alleged victim next week, and without a criminal case being present they are allowed to fully proceed with an investigation without any worries of interfering with a criminal investigation. In the short term, that could actually work out worse for AB (and the Patriots) than if there was a criminal investigation present. If the league finds the alleged victim's statements to be not credible, then AB will be allowed to play. If she is credible, I see AB going on paid leave and the circus to continue, much to BB and Krafty's chagrin. Yes, the Patsies will only be out of some money, but one thing that BB detests above all others is chaos. The league will do nothing. He said/she said. Give the league ratings and revenue. Talent plays. That is all. Tyreek Hill broke his kids arm and got nothing.
Consensual sex with some nasty follow up DM's. Every day in the NFL
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 17, 2019 20:45:54 GMT -7
Antonio Brown interview becomes the key piece of the NFL’s investigation Mike Florio 12 mins ago The NFL reportedly has secured 10 hours of information from Britney Taylor, the woman who has accused Patriots receiver Antonio Brown of sexual assault and rape. Eventually, the league will talk to Brown. And that interview will becomes a key piece of the investigation. The extent to which league investigators found Taylor credible isn’t known — and it won’t be known until the NFL begins to make decisions about whether to place Brown on paid leave or to punish him with a suspension or a banishment. If her story seems believable to the league, Brown’s story will need to be more believable. And there’s a chance that Brown simply won’t be a good witness, regardless of whether he’s telling the truth. Brown has navigated his way through plenty of delicate situations by relying heavily on a broad, electric smile. He’ll need more to persuade the league that he didn’t do what he is accused of doing, especially in light of messages sent to Taylor that, on their face, seem to corroborate portions of her allegations. How will he explain those? Will he be combative or belligerent when challenged with tough questions, or will he concede what he needs to concede in order to be believed as to the most important questions regarding whether he sexually assaulted or raped Taylor? Last Tuesday night, Brown’s lawyer issued a sweeping denial of all allegations in the civil complaint filed by Taylor. That’s an unrealistic, and technically untrue, characterization of the lawsuit. While Taylor may not be telling the truth as to the most critical aspects of the lawsuit, there surely is plenty of truth contained in the complaint as it is written. If Brown is wired to simply deny everything Taylor says, the league will need to corroborate only portions of her allegations with objective evidence to justify a full and complete rejection of his story. He’ll need to be able to set aside the frustration inherent to being accused of something he believes he didn’t do, and to provide calm, reasoned, and factually accurate answers. And make no mistake about it — the league’s investigators are trained to assess credibility as to small issues in order to get a feel for credibility as to big issues. If he can be caught in a lie as to facts that don’t go to the heart of the matter, it becomes far easier to assume he’s not telling the truth as to the allegations that go to the core of the case. It therefore will be incumbent on Brown’s camp to get him prepared to face the interrogation to come. He’s not a lawyer but a witness, and when the time comes to answer questions he needs to answer them clearly, directly, and dispassionately. If he strays into becoming an advocate for his position, he runs the risk of engaging in swordplay with the person who is questioning him instead of simply submitting to the process. The challenge for the league becomes assessing Taylor’s story from the perspective of whether she has provided enough proof to convince the Commissioner that Brown “may have violated” the Personal Conduct Policy. If she has, the league will be justified in placing Brown on paid leave while the investigation proceeeds. It’s also possible that, before doing so, the league will conduct a preliminary interview with Brown aimed at confirming any suspicion that he “may have violated” the policy, with a more exacting session happening after the Commissioner exercises his broad powers to take Brown off the field pending the completion of the league’s work. Regardless of how it plays out, the fact that the league devoted so much time on Monday to talking to Brown’s accuser shows that the matter is being taken seriously. Which suggests that the league realizes the potential damage to The Shield that comes from letting Brown play under the cloud of allegations that the league potentially finds to be credible based on a 10-hour interview of the person who is making them. In other words, the league can at any time place Brown on the Commissioner-Exempt list. Likewise, if the Patriots become aware of evidence that gives credence to the allegations made against Brown in a civil lawsuit, the Patriots could decide to sever ties with him, without any advance warning or notice. So even though it seems that the situation has died down, it hasn’t. And the work that currently is happening outside of the view of the public could lead, sooner than later, to major decisions affecting Brown’s ability to continue to play football. profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/17/antonio-brown-interview-becomes-the-key-piece-of-the-nfls-investigation/ |
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 19, 2019 21:44:28 GMT -7
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, here we go. Didn’t I take the under five games? That’s looking better than my pool picks so far! ________ Report: Antonio Brown harasses latest accuser via text messageAntonio Brown may have crossed the line, as far as the NFL and the Patriots are concerned. Robert Klemko of SI.com reports that Brown has sent harassing text messages to the unnamed accuser who shared allegations with Klemko regarding Brown’s behavior after Brown hired her to paint a mural at his house. “I’m on my knees painting the [mural], and he walks up to me butt-ass naked, with a hand cloth covering his [penis] and starts having a conversation with me,” the woman told Klemko. “Unfortunately, I’ve been tried [by men] a lot of times, so I just kept my cool and kept painting. After that, it all ended abruptly.” Brown reportedly has sent a group text message to the woman, accusing her of fabricating a “bull sh-t” story in an effort to “make up some stuff for money.” He also called her a “super broke girl with a lot of kids,” and he encouraged someone to whom Brown refers as “Eric B” to investigate her in order to “see how broke this girl is.” Brown also sent a screen shot of an Instagram photo of the woman’s children, adding that the woman is “awfully broke clearly.” On Thursday night, the woman’s lawyer sent a letter to the NFL explaining that Brown is “intimidating and threatening . . . our client, in violation of the NFL Personal Conduct Policy.” “Our client . . . is understandably frightened by these text messages, which are clearly intended to threaten and intimidate her,” attorney Lisa J. Banks wrote. “While she certainly qualifies as a ‘starving artist,’ she has never approached Mr. Brown, nor will she, about seeking money to compensate her for his sexual misconduct, contrary to his allegations in the text messages.” Amazingly, Brown’s lawyer was included in the group texts. Darren Heitner tells Klemko that Heitner did not advise Brown to communicate with the woman. The league responded to the letter within an hour. Investigators will speak to the woman’s lawyers about the situation. “This sort of intimidation and harassment is the reason victims are often so reluctant to step forward in these cases,” Banks told Klemko. “We have confidence the NFL and the Patriots will step in and end this behavior.” The Personal Conduct Policy expressly prohibits “talking, harassment, or similar forms of intimidation.” The fact that the behavior has been directed at a woman who has made allegations regarding misconduct makes the situation even worse for Brown. Employers routinely take swift and decisive action against employees who are accused of misconduct and who harass or intimidate those who have made the accusations. The Patriots, who like any NFL team wouldn’t have signed Brown if they’d known about the sexual assault and rape lawsuit that was filed last week, likewise have not been inclined to terminate the relationship based solely on uncorroborated allegations in a civil action. If Brown sent these messages to a woman who chimed in with her own allegations of misconduct by Brown, that gives the Patriots a much more tangible basis for severing ties with Brown. Regardless of what the Patriots do, the league can take action against Brown. The aggressive and angry response directed to an accuser could be enough, for example, to cause the Commissioner to believe that Brown “may have violated” the Personal Conduct Policy as to Britney Taylor, justifying immediate placement of Brown on the Commissioner-Exempt list. However it plays out, Brown apparently has committed yet another serious error of judgment, one that has placed his current employment in real jeopardy. profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/20/report-antonio-brown-harasses-latest-accuser-via-text-message/ |
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