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Post by moekid on Jul 28, 2020 21:37:47 GMT -7
Do some field research. Get the infection and see how it goes All I did was post some data. Its out there. Maybe you should look for yourself. Perspective makes a difference. I didn’t mean that to come off the way it probably did to you. The uncertainty is really the most troubling thing about this virus. Some people get and sail through with nary a symptom. Others end up on ventilators or dead. The limitation of the death stats is that it ignores the lingering and sometimes very bad after effects of survivors. Some have lung and heart issues after the threat of death is long gone. For some people that wouldn’t hinder day to day life too much. For a professional athlete losing 10% of lung capacity could be career ending. Who knows? I’m as tired of this shot as anybody. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 29, 2020 3:26:00 GMT -7
All I did was post some data. Its out there. Maybe you should look for yourself. Perspective makes a difference. I didn’t mean that to come off the way it probably did to you. The uncertainty is really the most troubling thing about this virus. Some people get and sail through with nary a symptom. Others end up on ventilators or dead. The limitation of the death stats is that it ignores the lingering and sometimes very bad after effects of survivors. Some have lung and heart issues after the threat of death is long gone. For some people that wouldn’t hinder day to day life too much. For a professional athlete losing 10% of lung capacity could be career ending. Who knows? I’m as tired of this shot as anybody. Nary is Nominated Word of the Day. Genius. I likey nary. You just don't see it like you used to. Oh, say 250 years ago, or so..................
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 29, 2020 3:27:53 GMT -7
6 Patriots and 0 Chargers? That is a surprise! Has anyone picked up Chris Harris Jr and made sure he was at training camp ??
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 29, 2020 3:29:35 GMT -7
Joe, I don't have a handle on this. Does his contract freeze, and then he gets 8 million dollars for next year ? Kind of like 2020 just never happened for him type of scenario ?
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Post by totallybolted on Jul 29, 2020 5:55:53 GMT -7
All I did was post some data. Its out there. Maybe you should look for yourself. Perspective makes a difference. I didn’t mean that to come off the way it probably did to you. The uncertainty is really the most troubling thing about this virus. Some people get and sail through with nary a symptom. Others end up on ventilators or dead. The limitation of the death stats is that it ignores the lingering and sometimes very bad after effects of survivors. Some have lung and heart issues after the threat of death is long gone. For some people that wouldn’t hinder day to day life too much. For a professional athlete losing 10% of lung capacity could be career ending. Who knows? I’m as tired of this shot as anybody. Thanks Moe. that is a fair point on the posts affects. Couldn't agree more on the uncertainty. So many conflicting positions coming from many HCP's and scientists etc. Part of the reason, I started pulling my own stats. Tired we all are.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 29, 2020 10:10:14 GMT -7
Joe, I don't have a handle on this. Does his contract freeze, and then he gets 8 million dollars for next year ? Kind of like 2020 just never happened for him type of scenario ? From overthecap.com: What is the Difference Between the Opt Outs Categories?
The NFL has created two different categories that players can fall into. One is a high risk pool in which the player has been medically diagnosed with an underlying condition that puts him in a much higher risk category if he contracts Covid. The second category is for players with no underlying health condition. This is a voluntary opt out to better insulate themselves and their family from potentially contracting the virus. What happens to the contract of the high risk opt out?A high risk player who opts out from his contract will be paid a stipend of $350,000 for the NFL season. His contract will toll by one season- meaning a player under contract from 2020 to 2023 will now be under contract with the team from 2021 to 2024. All conditions of the contract carry forward so if the 2020 salary is guaranteed, his 2021 salary is now guaranteed. If he has a workout bonus in 2020 he will have a workout bonus in 2021. The only terms not carried over are if the player already earned one time salaries like an offseason roster bonus or a signing bonus. The player also automatically earns an accrued season toward free agency and a credited season to earn the minimum salary raise. Basically, the player is treated as if he spent 6 weeks on the roster which is a pretty big deal for players who were going to be restricted or exclusive rights players at the end of their contracts and may be eligible to move up a class when the contract expires. What happens to the contract of the voluntary opt out?There are a few key differences. The primary difference is that the players are given a $150,000 salary advance versus a stipend. This is money that will be deducted from future salary and/or paid back to the team. Not all players are eligible for the advance- to earn this advance you either had to be on a roster at least 3 weeks in 2019 or drafted in 2020. If you were a free agent all of 2019 but were signed as a tryout you will not receive an advance. Likewise, an undrafted player in 2020 will not receive an advance. The contract of the player will toll in the same manner as the high risk player however no credited or accrued season is earned. overthecap.com/the-impact-of-the-covid-rules-on-the-salary-cap-and-nfl-contracts/
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 29, 2020 11:41:27 GMT -7
Joe, I don't have a handle on this. Does his contract freeze, and then he gets 8 million dollars for next year ? Kind of like 2020 just never happened for him type of scenario ? From overthecap.com: What is the Difference Between the Opt Outs Categories?
The NFL has created two different categories that players can fall into. One is a high risk pool in which the player has been medically diagnosed with an underlying condition that puts him in a much higher risk category if he contracts Covid. The second category is for players with no underlying health condition. This is a voluntary opt out to better insulate themselves and their family from potentially contracting the virus. What happens to the contract of the high risk opt out?A high risk player who opts out from his contract will be paid a stipend of $350,000 for the NFL season. His contract will toll by one season- meaning a player under contract from 2020 to 2023 will now be under contract with the team from 2021 to 2024. All conditions of the contract carry forward so if the 2020 salary is guaranteed, his 2021 salary is now guaranteed. If he has a workout bonus in 2020 he will have a workout bonus in 2021. The only terms not carried over are if the player already earned one time salaries like an offseason roster bonus or a signing bonus. The player also automatically earns an accrued season toward free agency and a credited season to earn the minimum salary raise. Basically, the player is treated as if he spent 6 weeks on the roster which is a pretty big deal for players who were going to be restricted or exclusive rights players at the end of their contracts and may be eligible to move up a class when the contract expires. What happens to the contract of the voluntary opt out?There are a few key differences. The primary difference is that the players are given a $150,000 salary advance versus a stipend. This is money that will be deducted from future salary and/or paid back to the team. Not all players are eligible for the advance- to earn this advance you either had to be on a roster at least 3 weeks in 2019 or drafted in 2020. If you were a free agent all of 2019 but were signed as a tryout you will not receive an advance. Likewise, an undrafted player in 2020 will not receive an advance. The contract of the player will toll in the same manner as the high risk player however no credited or accrued season is earned. overthecap.com/the-impact-of-the-covid-rules-on-the-salary-cap-and-nfl-contracts/ you could have just typed yes. Don't give me that high falutin' "Toll" lawyer talk either. $350,000 dollars for not playing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WTH
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 29, 2020 16:51:18 GMT -7
From overthecap.com: What is the Difference Between the Opt Outs Categories?
The NFL has created two different categories that players can fall into. One is a high risk pool in which the player has been medically diagnosed with an underlying condition that puts him in a much higher risk category if he contracts Covid. The second category is for players with no underlying health condition. This is a voluntary opt out to better insulate themselves and their family from potentially contracting the virus. What happens to the contract of the high risk opt out?A high risk player who opts out from his contract will be paid a stipend of $350,000 for the NFL season. His contract will toll by one season- meaning a player under contract from 2020 to 2023 will now be under contract with the team from 2021 to 2024. All conditions of the contract carry forward so if the 2020 salary is guaranteed, his 2021 salary is now guaranteed. If he has a workout bonus in 2020 he will have a workout bonus in 2021. The only terms not carried over are if the player already earned one time salaries like an offseason roster bonus or a signing bonus. The player also automatically earns an accrued season toward free agency and a credited season to earn the minimum salary raise. Basically, the player is treated as if he spent 6 weeks on the roster which is a pretty big deal for players who were going to be restricted or exclusive rights players at the end of their contracts and may be eligible to move up a class when the contract expires. What happens to the contract of the voluntary opt out?There are a few key differences. The primary difference is that the players are given a $150,000 salary advance versus a stipend. This is money that will be deducted from future salary and/or paid back to the team. Not all players are eligible for the advance- to earn this advance you either had to be on a roster at least 3 weeks in 2019 or drafted in 2020. If you were a free agent all of 2019 but were signed as a tryout you will not receive an advance. Likewise, an undrafted player in 2020 will not receive an advance. The contract of the player will toll in the same manner as the high risk player however no credited or accrued season is earned. overthecap.com/the-impact-of-the-covid-rules-on-the-salary-cap-and-nfl-contracts/you could have just typed yes. Don't give me that high falutin' "Toll" lawyer talk either. $350,000 dollars for not playing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WTH Only if you are deemed high risk with a medically diagnosed reason. I haven't heard of a player who has opted out who fits that category, but I'd imagine a guy like Russell Okung would fit that category if he chooses to sit.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 30, 2020 2:35:59 GMT -7
you could have just typed yes. Don't give me that high falutin' "Toll" lawyer talk either. $350,000 dollars for not playing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WTHOnly if you are deemed high risk with a medically diagnosed reason. I haven't heard of a player who has opted out who fits that category, but I'd imagine a guy like Russell Okung would fit that category if he chooses to sit. You would think Okung would be running for the hills.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 30, 2020 6:11:55 GMT -7
6 Patriots and 0 Chargers? That is a surprise! Has anyone picked up Chris Harris Jr and made sure he was at training camp ?? Did Harris opt out? I missed the story.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 30, 2020 9:25:43 GMT -7
Has anyone picked up Chris Harris Jr and made sure he was at training camp ?? Did Harris opt out? I missed the story. He was talking that way at one point. At least, he was talking player safety anyway. Guys a 4 time pro bowler, SB champ, and I want him on the field in our defense. Yes. Yes I do.
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Post by afboltfan on Sept 15, 2020 13:42:45 GMT -7
I know this is about Tom Brady but I was too lazy to make a new thread... Basically Arians aint afraid to get after Brady. This is awesome...
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 15, 2020 14:07:15 GMT -7
I know this is about Tom Brady but I was too lazy to make a new thread... Basically Arians aint afraid to get after Brady. This is awesome... Arians ain’t afraid of going after anybody. Bruce is who he is. 🍺 |
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Post by joemcrugby on Oct 3, 2020 11:24:45 GMT -7
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