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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 10, 2019 4:05:15 GMT -7
I'm not sure why you are skirting the oline but here is my reply to your GM, Coaches: Knute Rockne and Belichick couldn't make this line great. Telesco, Lynn, Ozzie Newsome, whomever. The line needs replaced. The real zinger is yes the line HAS got to be replaced but maybe not by the same imbeciles that trotted that chinese fire drill out to protect our HOF QB in the first place.New GM new o line? We can discuss whether we think TT should go, but know that they will not fire him. So......... A good Manager knows when to get help. He ignored the oline, so he can change that himself. Then he has a history of suck drafting oline. Go get Ollie Oline Master Scout Draft selector to pick the oline. Whatever it takes. I truly believe that he ignored the oline to draft others, then thought he had great picks that were of draft value, then felt what we had was good enough, it'll change, they will get stronger together. I really don't give a damn what he felt. We are way past all of the talky talk and spin tales of yore. It has failed and failed hard. Over haul, replace, rebuild, whatever you what to call it.
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Post by NYBOLTFAN1 on Nov 10, 2019 4:12:16 GMT -7
Tyrod stinks, I watched that loser every week on TV for Buffalo, that's all I get for games in upstate NY. Tyrod has legs and doesn't throw into double or triple coverage... Old legs and he doesn’t throw into coverage because he can’t throw period. He’s not the answer, change the culture in the organization. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 10, 2019 4:16:59 GMT -7
Why do I picture Ken Whisenhunt on a sunny beach laughing his ass off right now ? After the Packer game, some introspection and soul searching. After the Raider game, 😂 ROTFLMAO 😝 5 INT's (2 were called back on penalties). 5 sacks. The bigger point should not be missed !!! This wasn't the 70's Steel Curtain. The raiders were the last place team in the NFL defending the pass.
Last !!!
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 8:10:56 GMT -7
The real zinger is yes the line HAS got to be replaced but maybe not by the same imbeciles that trotted that chinese fire drill out to protect our HOF QB in the first place.New GM new o line? We can discuss whether we think TT should go, but know that they will not fire him. So......... A good Manager knows when to get help. He ignored the oline, so he can change that himself. Then he has a history of suck drafting oline. Go get Ollie Oline Master Scout Draft selector to pick the oline. Whatever it takes. I truly believe that he ignored the oline to draft others, then thought he had great picks that were of draft value, then felt what we had was good enough, it'll change, they will get stronger together. I really don't give a damn what he felt. We are way past all of the talky talk and spin tales of yore. It has failed and failed hard. Over haul, replace, rebuild, whatever you what to call it. The draft decisions are not made by one person sitting in the room going 'I like this guy, or that guy' to himself. You know there are a ton of people involved in creating the information base used to assign rankings, or big board if you prefer, and even then at pick time there is discussion. It can be debated just whose voice carries the most weight, with TT and Lynn having plenty of influence. My concern is J Spanos, and how vocal he might be in the process, while having literally no ramification for any poor decision made by him. TT is the face of the draft..... Regardless.....the club did not ignore OL, as they chose Pipkins with their 3rd pick. Clearly too little of an investment in an area of huge need. My thought is the coaching staff would not agree with the belief OL was a huge need, and that was a big factor in the decisions this recent draft. The metrics do not lie, and they will tell you the OL has been bad for years. To ignore that is simply stunning to me. Fire the entire coaching staff at year end........infuse as much talent into the OL group as possible by utilizing every avenue available prior to the draft.......
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 8:13:11 GMT -7
After the Packer game, some introspection and soul searching. After the Raider game, 😂 ROTFLMAO 😝 5 INT's (2 were called back on penalties). 5 sacks. The bigger point should not be missed !!! This wasn't the 70's Steel Curtain. The raiders were the last place team in the NFL defending the pass.
Last !!! Playing the Bolts was just what that Raider defence needed......
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Post by totallybolted on Nov 10, 2019 9:35:32 GMT -7
We can discuss whether we think TT should go, but know that they will not fire him. So......... A good Manager knows when to get help. He ignored the oline, so he can change that himself. Then he has a history of suck drafting oline. Go get Ollie Oline Master Scout Draft selector to pick the oline. Whatever it takes. I truly believe that he ignored the oline to draft others, then thought he had great picks that were of draft value, then felt what we had was good enough, it'll change, they will get stronger together. I really don't give a damn what he felt. We are way past all of the talky talk and spin tales of yore. It has failed and failed hard. Over haul, replace, rebuild, whatever you what to call it. The draft decisions are not made by one person sitting in the room going 'I like this guy, or that guy' to himself. You know there are a ton of people involved in creating the information base used to assign rankings, or big board if you prefer, and even then at pick time there is discussion. It can be debated just whose voice carries the most weight, with TT and Lynn having plenty of influence. My concern is J Spanos, and how vocal he might be in the process, while having literally no ramification for any poor decision made by him. TT is the face of the draft..... Regardless.....the club did not ignore OL, as they chose Pipkins with their 3rd pick. Clearly too little of an investment in an area of huge need. My thought is the coaching staff would not agree with the belief OL was a huge need, and that was a big factor in the decisions this recent draft. The metrics do not lie, and they will tell you the OL has been bad for years. To ignore that is simply stunning to me. Fire the entire coaching staff at year end........infuse as much talent into the OL group as possible by utilizing every avenue available prior to the draft....... IMO J Spanos is not Al Davis. Al knew football and players. Spanos is not Jerry Jones. He is not part of the decision making process. if anything, he might want to hear about FA's and voice concerns but that is it. The final decision should be by the GM. He owns it. As to the draft last year, there wasn't enough depth or talent. So I get picking BPA.
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Post by boltgang74 on Nov 10, 2019 10:09:19 GMT -7
We can discuss whether we think TT should go, but know that they will not fire him. So......... A good Manager knows when to get help. He ignored the oline, so he can change that himself. Then he has a history of suck drafting oline. Go get Ollie Oline Master Scout Draft selector to pick the oline. Whatever it takes. I truly believe that he ignored the oline to draft others, then thought he had great picks that were of draft value, then felt what we had was good enough, it'll change, they will get stronger together. I really don't give a damn what he felt. We are way past all of the talky talk and spin tales of yore. It has failed and failed hard. Over haul, replace, rebuild, whatever you what to call it. The draft decisions are not made by one person sitting in the room going 'I like this guy, or that guy' to himself. You know there are a ton of people involved in creating the information base used to assign rankings, or big board if you prefer, and even then at pick time there is discussion. It can be debated just whose voice carries the most weight, with TT and Lynn having plenty of influence. My concern is J Spanos, and how vocal he might be in the process, while having literally no ramification for any poor decision made by him. TT is the face of the draft..... Regardless.....the club did not ignore OL, as they chose Pipkins with their 3rd pick. Clearly too little of an investment in an area of huge need. My thought is the coaching staff would not agree with the belief OL was a huge need, and that was a big factor in the decisions this recent draft. The metrics do not lie, and they will tell you the OL has been bad for years. To ignore that is simply stunning to me. Fire the entire coaching staff at year end........infuse as much talent into the OL group as possible by utilizing every avenue available prior to the draft....... Agreed 100% No more of this definition of insanity F.O. crap.If there isnt a drastic overhaul coming very soon then maybe the spaznos want to move to London.It aint like they really give two shits where they take their team as long as the money is good. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 10, 2019 10:36:37 GMT -7
We can discuss whether we think TT should go, but know that they will not fire him. So......... A good Manager knows when to get help. He ignored the oline, so he can change that himself. Then he has a history of suck drafting oline. Go get Ollie Oline Master Scout Draft selector to pick the oline. Whatever it takes. I truly believe that he ignored the oline to draft others, then thought he had great picks that were of draft value, then felt what we had was good enough, it'll change, they will get stronger together. I really don't give a damn what he felt. We are way past all of the talky talk and spin tales of yore. It has failed and failed hard. Over haul, replace, rebuild, whatever you what to call it. The draft decisions are not made by one person sitting in the room going 'I like this guy, or that guy' to himself. You know there are a ton of people involved in creating the information base used to assign rankings, or big board if you prefer, and even then at pick time there is discussion. It can be debated just whose voice carries the most weight, with TT and Lynn having plenty of influence. My concern is J Spanos, and how vocal he might be in the process, while having literally no ramification for any poor decision made by him. TT is the face of the draft..... Regardless.....the club did not ignore OL, as they chose Pipkins with their 3rd pick. Clearly too little of an investment in an area of huge need. My thought is the coaching staff would not agree with the belief OL was a huge need, and that was a big factor in the decisions this recent draft. The metrics do not lie, and they will tell you the OL has been bad for years. To ignore that is simply stunning to me. Fire the entire coaching staff at year end........infuse as much talent into the OL group as possible by utilizing every avenue available prior to the draft....... TT makes all final draft picks. But let’s explore your error. Spanos, TT, Lynn, etc etc the whole draft team . Someone has to pick the name each round. Who does that. Who who who  ? It’s already common knowledge that it’s Telesco. He and only he makes the final draft call. The only exception is you might hear “I gave Spanos this years sixth pick” or “I gave Bradley this years fifth pick”. Outside of that not even once a year cuteness, Telesco makes the final say. Period. |
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 13:03:25 GMT -7
The draft decisions are not made by one person sitting in the room going 'I like this guy, or that guy' to himself. You know there are a ton of people involved in creating the information base used to assign rankings, or big board if you prefer, and even then at pick time there is discussion. It can be debated just whose voice carries the most weight, with TT and Lynn having plenty of influence. My concern is J Spanos, and how vocal he might be in the process, while having literally no ramification for any poor decision made by him. TT is the face of the draft..... Regardless.....the club did not ignore OL, as they chose Pipkins with their 3rd pick. Clearly too little of an investment in an area of huge need. My thought is the coaching staff would not agree with the belief OL was a huge need, and that was a big factor in the decisions this recent draft. The metrics do not lie, and they will tell you the OL has been bad for years. To ignore that is simply stunning to me. Fire the entire coaching staff at year end........infuse as much talent into the OL group as possible by utilizing every avenue available prior to the draft....... IMO J Spanos is not Al Davis. Al knew football and players. Spanos is not Jerry Jones. He is not part of the decision making process. if anything, he might want to hear about FA's and voice concerns but that is it. The final decision should be by the GM. He owns it. As to the draft last year, there wasn't enough depth or talent. So I get picking BPA. J Spanos is involved in the decision making process to a degree I believe. He came up through the scouting side of the organization, so I find it difficult to envision him sitting quietly while others discuss the traits of possible picks.....clearly I have no idea how strongly he might be expressing his views, or even if he has any eye for talent. TT is certainly the face of these decisions, as a GM should be, regardless of how any decision was arrived at. The draft last year seems like a miss from beginning to end......Tillery, Adderly and Pipkins......can just one of them develop into something.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 13:09:10 GMT -7
The draft decisions are not made by one person sitting in the room going 'I like this guy, or that guy' to himself. You know there are a ton of people involved in creating the information base used to assign rankings, or big board if you prefer, and even then at pick time there is discussion. It can be debated just whose voice carries the most weight, with TT and Lynn having plenty of influence. My concern is J Spanos, and how vocal he might be in the process, while having literally no ramification for any poor decision made by him. TT is the face of the draft..... Regardless.....the club did not ignore OL, as they chose Pipkins with their 3rd pick. Clearly too little of an investment in an area of huge need. My thought is the coaching staff would not agree with the belief OL was a huge need, and that was a big factor in the decisions this recent draft. The metrics do not lie, and they will tell you the OL has been bad for years. To ignore that is simply stunning to me. Fire the entire coaching staff at year end........infuse as much talent into the OL group as possible by utilizing every avenue available prior to the draft....... Agreed 100% No more of this definition of insanity F.O. crap.If there isnt a drastic overhaul coming very soon then maybe the spaznos want to move to London.It aint like they really give two shits where they take their team as long as the money is good. There was a window of time that saw this roster headed in a really good direction. Now not so much...... The Bolts are not moving to London.....
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 13:12:42 GMT -7
The draft decisions are not made by one person sitting in the room going 'I like this guy, or that guy' to himself. You know there are a ton of people involved in creating the information base used to assign rankings, or big board if you prefer, and even then at pick time there is discussion. It can be debated just whose voice carries the most weight, with TT and Lynn having plenty of influence. My concern is J Spanos, and how vocal he might be in the process, while having literally no ramification for any poor decision made by him. TT is the face of the draft..... Regardless.....the club did not ignore OL, as they chose Pipkins with their 3rd pick. Clearly too little of an investment in an area of huge need. My thought is the coaching staff would not agree with the belief OL was a huge need, and that was a big factor in the decisions this recent draft. The metrics do not lie, and they will tell you the OL has been bad for years. To ignore that is simply stunning to me. Fire the entire coaching staff at year end........infuse as much talent into the OL group as possible by utilizing every avenue available prior to the draft....... TT makes all final draft picks. But let’s explore your error. Spanos, TT, Lynn, etc etc the whole draft team . Someone has to pick the name each round. Who does that. Who who who  ? It’s already common knowledge that it’s Telesco. He and only he makes the final draft call. The only exception is you might hear “I gave Spanos this years sixth pick” or “I gave Bradley this years fifth pick”. Outside of that not even once a year cuteness, Telesco makes the final say. Period. Your "common knowledge" is nothing but club perpetuated crap...... TT is the GM, as such, he is the face of club decisions regardless of how those decisions were determined.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 10, 2019 14:41:52 GMT -7
TT makes all final draft picks. But let’s explore your error. Spanos, TT, Lynn, etc etc the whole draft team . Someone has to pick the name each round. Who does that. Who who who ? It’s already common knowledge that it’s Telesco. He and only he makes the final draft call. The only exception is you might hear “I gave Spanos this years sixth pick” or “I gave Bradley this years fifth pick”. Outside of that not even once a year cuteness, Telesco makes the final say. Period. Your "common knowledge" is nothing but club perpetuated crap...... TT is the GM, as such, he is the face of club decisions regardless of how those decisions were determined. waiting to hear The Who. If it’s not the GM, then who is it ? |
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Post by moekid on Nov 10, 2019 15:31:14 GMT -7
Your "common knowledge" is nothing but club perpetuated crap...... TT is the GM, as such, he is the face of club decisions regardless of how those decisions were determined. waiting to hear The Who. If it’s not the GM, then who is it ? Speaking of The Who, I won’t get fooled again by this second tier outfit. I’m now from Missouri, the show me state. Call me Missouri Moekid |
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 10, 2019 16:02:19 GMT -7
Your "common knowledge" is nothing but club perpetuated crap...... TT is the GM, as such, he is the face of club decisions regardless of how those decisions were determined. waiting to hear The Who. If it’s not the GM, then who is it ? Tune into any decent classic rock station.......
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Post by cthommes on Nov 10, 2019 17:59:23 GMT -7
Well the other LA team was even more of an offensive shitshow than we were. So I guess there's that.
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? It’s already common knowledge that it’s Telesco. He and only he makes the final draft call. The only exception is you might hear “I gave Spanos this years sixth pick” or “I gave Bradley this years fifth pick”. Outside of that not even once a year cuteness, Telesco makes the final say. Period. 