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Post by moekid on Dec 20, 2019 16:26:10 GMT -7
Fair enough, I never paid attention or forgot about Voldemort's college career... Regardless Burrows is much different. I’m not so sure. I live in SEC country. Burrows was on no one’s radar. He and LSU have had an unbelievable year. The team right around the corner from me, UGA, went into the season with more fanfare and just got slapped around. Heck, Jake Fromm was considered a much more legit prospect a year ago. Now he’s sticking around for his senior year to build his resume. The difference between the two comes down to a few factors. Georgia was built for ground and pound. LSU is about spreading you out and attacking. Next, LSU has the best WR corps in the NCAA. The Bulldogs, the worst I’ve seen in a long time. In fact, UGA just landed 4 of the best WR recruits in the country. Local radio says the pitch is “unlike LSU you can start here right away, plus play with a seasoned QB who will play in the NFL as opposed to breaking in a freshman QB at LSU.”” Burrows may be a great QB at the next level but he won’t have the same talent around him. Not many one hit wonders have had a lot of success in the NFL. Tua is the much safer bet. I also predict that Fromm has a great senior year and will be in the Heisman discussion next year. Alabama and Clemson would likely argue with the bolded.
Burrow has a pretty good pedigree and was highly recruited coming into Ohio State. It didn't work out for him there but he has pretty solid bona fides.
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Post by moekid on Dec 20, 2019 16:27:10 GMT -7
I’m not so sure. I live in SEC country. Burrows was on no one’s radar. He and LSU have had an unbelievable year. The team right around the corner from me, UGA, went into the season with more fanfare and just got slapped around. Heck, Jake Fromm was considered a much more legit prospect a year ago. Now he’s sticking around for his senior year to build his resume. The difference between the two comes down to a few factors. Georgia was built for ground and pound. LSU is about spreading you out and attacking. Next, LSU has the best WR corps in the NCAA. . No they don't. Did you know Alabama has THREE WR's projected to go in the first round ? One of them they think is Top 5 overall. and Clemson is WR U and that OKlahoma kid is pretty good.
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Post by Chargeroo on Dec 20, 2019 18:23:13 GMT -7
Fair enough, I never paid attention or forgot about Voldemort's college career... Regardless Burrows is much different. Nominated Name of the Day. Yup, made me laugh. Ol Voldermort was a one year wonder but he sure looked the part. Many "experts" thought he has better than Manning. I haven't seen any signs that Burrows is a head case like that.
Anyway, I'd be going after the best OT in the draft if I was then GM. Get a FA OT and the best of the draft and we'd see a dramatic difference in the offense next year.
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Post by sdc on Dec 20, 2019 18:43:25 GMT -7
I’m not so sure. I live in SEC country. Burrows was on no one’s radar. He and LSU have had an unbelievable year. The team right around the corner from me, UGA, went into the season with more fanfare and just got slapped around. Heck, Jake Fromm was considered a much more legit prospect a year ago. Now he’s sticking around for his senior year to build his resume. The difference between the two comes down to a few factors. Georgia was built for ground and pound. LSU is about spreading you out and attacking. Next, LSU has the best WR corps in the NCAA. . No they don't. Did you know Alabama has THREE WR's projected to go in the first round ? One of them they think is Top 5 overall. Yes they did. Top two players in the SEC in receptions were Chase and Jefferson from LSU Top two players in the SEC in receiving yards were Chase and Jefferson. Top two players in the SEC in receiving touchdowns were Chase and Jefferson. Alabama has a wealth of talent and they boasted 3 and 4 but coming from SEC country, I know for a fact that LSU WR's were the most feared in the conference. Perhaps, I should have rephrased to state that their starting WR's are the best in the country. Jerry Jeudy was supposed to be the top WR in the SEC but didn't shine. Click on this link and click on the individual players which will take you to their ESPN player page. Check out their stats against top 25 teams. Chase and Jefferson are in a league of their own. www.secsports.com/statistics/football/player/receiving
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Post by sdc on Dec 20, 2019 18:52:45 GMT -7
I’m not so sure. I live in SEC country. Burrows was on no one’s radar. He and LSU have had an unbelievable year. The team right around the corner from me, UGA, went into the season with more fanfare and just got slapped around. Heck, Jake Fromm was considered a much more legit prospect a year ago. Now he’s sticking around for his senior year to build his resume. The difference between the two comes down to a few factors. Georgia was built for ground and pound. LSU is about spreading you out and attacking. Next, LSU has the best WR corps in the NCAA. The Bulldogs, the worst I’ve seen in a long time. In fact, UGA just landed 4 of the best WR recruits in the country. Local radio says the pitch is “unlike LSU you can start here right away, plus play with a seasoned QB who will play in the NFL as opposed to breaking in a freshman QB at LSU.”” Burrows may be a great QB at the next level but he won’t have the same talent around him. Not many one hit wonders have had a lot of success in the NFL. Tua is the much safer bet. I also predict that Fromm has a great senior year and will be in the Heisman discussion next year. Alabama and Clemson would likely argue with the bolded.
Burrow has a pretty good pedigree and was highly recruited coming into Ohio State. It didn't work out for him there but he has pretty solid bona fides.
Clemson has a complex playing in the crappy ACC. Dabo is up there with Saban and Urban Meyer as being the best in this generation in preparing their teams fof big games, especially with extra time. That being said, I don't know how well Clemson would fare in the big bad SEC where weekly top 10 matchups are commonplace. Justin Fields lost out to Jake Fromm. So did Jacob Eason.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 20, 2019 19:48:29 GMT -7
If the demand for QB's goes as you say, then Burrows, Herbert and Tua' could all be gone before the Bolts pick. Bolts might end up with a very very talented OT sitting there waiting to hear his name called. Resigning Rivers would be very wise, regardless of how the QB's fall in the draft. Don't realistically expect that OT to make us instant Superbowl contenders over night. Several first round OT's have had to grow into their position, Eric Fisher for example... PR doesn't have that sort of time. Rather than waste my time explaining it all to you, I will just share a post from Freak, who seems to actually get it. "I'm sure that goes into the decision making Sign Rivers, and then just let the draft come to you. QB you like, draft him. QB's gone, check the next box."
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 21, 2019 3:06:17 GMT -7
Nominated Name of the Day. Yup, made me laugh. Ol Voldermort was a one year wonder but he sure looked the part. Many "experts" thought he has better than Manning. I haven't seen any signs that Burrows is a head case like that.
Anyway, I'd be going after the best OT in the draft if I was then GM. Get a FA OT and the best of the draft and we'd see a dramatic difference in the offense next year.
There is nothing wrong with your draft plan. We could really be in position to get a top tier Tackle. Its exciting to think about. I like your FA wishes for our OL as well. We got Okung in free agency. If we are able to, I'd like to flip positions this cycle. Draft Tackle, and go Guards in free agency. (they cost less LOL).
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 21, 2019 3:15:40 GMT -7
No they don't. Did you know Alabama has THREE WR's projected to go in the first round ? One of them they think is Top 5 overall. Yes they did. Top two players in the SEC in receptions were Chase and Jefferson from LSU Top two players in the SEC in receiving yards were Chase and Jefferson. Top two players in the SEC in receiving touchdowns were Chase and Jefferson. Alabama has a wealth of talent and they boasted 3 and 4 but coming from SEC country, I know for a fact that LSU WR's were the most feared in the conference. Perhaps, I should have rephrased to state that their starting WR's are the best in the country. Jerry Jeudy was supposed to be the top WR in the SEC but didn't shine. Click on this link and click on the individual players which will take you to their ESPN player page. Check out their stats against top 25 teams. Chase and Jefferson are in a league of their own. www.secsports.com/statistics/football/player/receiving Did you even see where I wrote THREE WR'S from Alabama are projected in the 1ST ROUND, or were your eyeballs busy spinning around in circles. I don't see any LSU WR projected in the first round of the draft. Did I miss one, or does Burrows make them look good ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA We are talking NFL grades. Primetime. The Big Leagues. The next level. At LSU they like your vocals But that's LSU dog Your ass is local
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Post by sdc on Dec 21, 2019 6:20:43 GMT -7
Yes they did. Top two players in the SEC in receptions were Chase and Jefferson from LSU Top two players in the SEC in receiving yards were Chase and Jefferson. Top two players in the SEC in receiving touchdowns were Chase and Jefferson. Alabama has a wealth of talent and they boasted 3 and 4 but coming from SEC country, I know for a fact that LSU WR's were the most feared in the conference. Perhaps, I should have rephrased to state that their starting WR's are the best in the country. Jerry Jeudy was supposed to be the top WR in the SEC but didn't shine. Click on this link and click on the individual players which will take you to their ESPN player page. Check out their stats against top 25 teams. Chase and Jefferson are in a league of their own. www.secsports.com/statistics/football/player/receivingDid you even see where I wrote THREE WR'S from Alabama are projected in the 1ST ROUND, or were your eyeballs busy spinning around in circles. I don't see any LSU WR projected in the first round of the draft. Did I miss one, or does Burrows make them look good ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA We are talking NFL grades. Primetime. The Big Leagues. The next level. At LSU they like your vocals But that's LSU dog Your ass is local Sigh....spoken like a guy who thinks the NCAA is merely an NFL farm system. Keep letting Todd McShay and Mel Kiper form your opinions for you. I’ll stick with what my eyeballs tell me.
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Post by sonorajim on Dec 21, 2019 12:14:24 GMT -7
No they don't. Did you know Alabama has THREE WR's projected to go in the first round ? One of them they think is Top 5 overall. Yes they did. Top two players in the SEC in receptions were Chase and Jefferson from LSU Top two players in the SEC in receiving yards were Chase and Jefferson. Top two players in the SEC in receiving touchdowns were Chase and Jefferson. Alabama has a wealth of talent and they boasted 3 and 4 but coming from SEC country, I know for a fact that LSU WR's were the most feared in the conference. Perhaps, I should have rephrased to state that their starting WR's are the best in the country. Jerry Jeudy was supposed to be the top WR in the SEC but didn't shine. Click on this link and click on the individual players which will take you to their ESPN player page. Check out their stats against top 25 teams. Chase and Jefferson are in a league of their own. www.secsports.com/statistics/football/player/receiving The claim was best WRs in the NCAA. Not according to the vast majority of draft sites. I'm no expert but the consensus among alleged 'spurts has Jeudy & Ruggs II Ala the top pair in this draft, contending with Cee Cee Lamb -OK for #1 WR in the 2020 draft. Your guys may be a steal with where they are currently ranked but are not getting top acclaim. It appears that most believe Burrows was working with less talented WRs than Tua, never mind Herbert, whose WRs are well downstream.
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Post by sdc on Dec 21, 2019 13:35:29 GMT -7
Yes they did. Top two players in the SEC in receptions were Chase and Jefferson from LSU Top two players in the SEC in receiving yards were Chase and Jefferson. Top two players in the SEC in receiving touchdowns were Chase and Jefferson. Alabama has a wealth of talent and they boasted 3 and 4 but coming from SEC country, I know for a fact that LSU WR's were the most feared in the conference. Perhaps, I should have rephrased to state that their starting WR's are the best in the country. Jerry Jeudy was supposed to be the top WR in the SEC but didn't shine. Click on this link and click on the individual players which will take you to their ESPN player page. Check out their stats against top 25 teams. Chase and Jefferson are in a league of their own. www.secsports.com/statistics/football/player/receivingThe claim was best WRs in the NCAA. Not according to the vast majority of draft sites. I'm no expert but the consensus among alleged 'spurts has Jeudy & Ruggs II Ala the top pair in this draft, contending with Cee Cee Lamb -OK for #1 WR in the 2020 draft. Your guys may be a steal with where they are currently ranked but are not getting top acclaim. It appears that most believe Burrows was working with less talented WRs than Tua, never mind Herbert, whose WRs are well downstream.
Tim Tebow was the best college QB for 3 years in a row. In fact, he was one of the best college QB's ever. How a player projects in the NFL doesn't always correlate to how good the are in college. Statistically, Calvin Johnson was never top 20 WR at GT, but was an amazing pro. Who in the SEC was better this year than Chase and Jefferson? No one. Mecole Hardman was a role player for the Bulldogs but a second round pick. Alshon Jeffery was the best WR in college in 2010 yet went in the draft at the same time. So by your logic is they were equals in college? Measurables are what get you drafted. Draft sites project upward mobility. Anyone who has spent anytime in the corporate world knows the difference between a performance appraisal and a development placement. I'm looking at current performance and you and the Freak are refuting it based on upward mobility projections. Interesting.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 21, 2019 20:48:10 GMT -7
The Cowboys current OC was a pretty good college QB.....some say the best ever. I guess it all depends on just what measuring stick is used....I like wins.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 21, 2019 22:09:30 GMT -7
Don't realistically expect that OT to make us instant Superbowl contenders over night. Several first round OT's have had to grow into their position, Eric Fisher for example... PR doesn't have that sort of time. Rather than waste my time explaining it all to you, I will just share a post from Freak, who seems to actually get it. "I'm sure that goes into the decision making Sign Rivers, and then just let the draft come to you. QB you like, draft him. QB's gone, check the next box." Yea you guys are so smart blah blah blah... That much is obvious, I'd be hoping for a QB but anything Oline that is a credible baller would be nice. TT's tract record for the draft is shaky at best...
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Post by sonorajim on Dec 21, 2019 23:15:25 GMT -7
The claim was best WRs in the NCAA. Not according to the vast majority of draft sites. I'm no expert but the consensus among alleged 'spurts has Jeudy & Ruggs II Ala the top pair in this draft, contending with Cee Cee Lamb -OK for #1 WR in the 2020 draft. Your guys may be a steal with where they are currently ranked but are not getting top acclaim. It appears that most believe Burrows was working with less talented WRs than Tua, never mind Herbert, whose WRs are well downstream.
Tim Tebow was the best college QB for 3 years in a row. In fact, he was one of the best college QB's ever. How a player projects in the NFL doesn't always correlate to how good the are in college. Statistically, Calvin Johnson was never top 20 WR at GT, but was an amazing pro. Who in the SEC was better this year than Chase and Jefferson? No one. Mecole Hardman was a role player for the Bulldogs but a second round pick. Alshon Jeffery was the best WR in college in 2010 yet went in the draft at the same time. So by your logic is they were equals in college? Measurables are what get you drafted. Draft sites project upward mobility. Anyone who has spent anytime in the corporate world knows the difference between a performance appraisal and a development placement. I'm looking at current performance and you and the Freak are refuting it based on upward mobility projections. Interesting. I'm just regurgitating 'spurt appraisals. Absolutely based on projection.
There is no performance film of them vs the Patriots, for example.
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Post by sonorajim on Dec 21, 2019 23:23:01 GMT -7
Rather than waste my time explaining it all to you, I will just share a post from Freak, who seems to actually get it. "I'm sure that goes into the decision making Sign Rivers, and then just let the draft come to you. QB you like, draft him. QB's gone, check the next box." Yea you guys are so smart blah blah blah... That much is obvious, I'd be hoping for a QB but anything Oline that is a credible baller would be nice. TT's tract record for the draft is shaky at best... I think we need a quality young QB. IMO, that's a done deal. 1st rd pick in 2020? OT? Maybe. Depends on talent available when we're on the clock. I hate when we pass on talent for need. Close pushes go to need. Clearly better talent goes to talent.
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