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Post by cthommes on Sept 28, 2020 16:39:50 GMT -7
Probably more about the cracked ribs being very painful, and some sort of reluctance to getting a shot for the pain. Going back to Taylor would be beyond stupid. Herbert is the path forward. i'm thinking, that after the debacle with the injection, they are letting his ribs heal instead of pushing it. NO MO SHOTS! If Herbert puts up another 300 yd performance, how can you go back? Even if its a loss, the learning curve looks to be quick IMO Let's not go crazy here, didn't dude turnover the ball 3 times? |
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Post by totallybolted on Sept 28, 2020 17:25:57 GMT -7
i'm thinking, that after the debacle with the injection, they are letting his ribs heal instead of pushing it. NO MO SHOTS! If Herbert puts up another 300 yd performance, how can you go back? Even if its a loss, the learning curve looks to be quick IMOLet's not go crazy here, didn't dude turnover the ball 3 times? not crazy. point was if all the signs show as up each week, you probably find yourself in a tough spot to go back. You are right though. He had thrown stupid int's. so to your point, maybe you go back because he needs to learn slower. and you want wins. Hopefully, on the change TT give it
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Post by cthommes on Sept 28, 2020 17:41:38 GMT -7
Let's not go crazy here, didn't dude turnover the ball 3 times? not crazy. point was if all the signs show as up each week, you probably find yourself in a tough spot to go back. You are right though. He had thrown stupid int's. so to your point, maybe you go back because he needs to learn slower. and you want wins. Hopefully, on the change TT give it The reality is as expected. We have a #1 qb that isn't good. We have a #2 qb that isn't ready. We have just concluded 14 years of a top tier iron man qb. We have a fan base calling for everyone's head on a stake after week three. All boxes checked. |
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 30, 2020 6:56:19 GMT -7
not crazy. point was if all the signs show as up each week, you probably find yourself in a tough spot to go back. You are right though. He had thrown stupid int's. so to your point, maybe you go back because he needs to learn slower. and you want wins. Hopefully, on the change TT give it The reality is as expected. We have a #1 qb that isn't good. We have a #2 qb that isn't ready. We have just concluded 14 years of a top tier iron man qb. We have a fan base calling for everyone's head on a stake after week three. All boxes checked. If by #2 QB you are referring to Herbert, I would disagree with the assertion Herbert is not ready, as he clearly is. What isn't good is the OL..... What isn't ready is the game plan........
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 30, 2020 7:14:32 GMT -7
The reality is as expected. We have a #1 qb that isn't good. We have a #2 qb that isn't ready. We have just concluded 14 years of a top tier iron man qb. We have a fan base calling for everyone's head on a stake after week three. All boxes checked. If by #2 QB you are referring to Herbert, I would disagree with the assertion Herbert is not ready, as he clearly is. What isn't good is the OL..... What isn't ready is the game plan........ These are the same two problems that we said were still problems this last off season. It’s almost as if not having a good OL and coaching staff allows one to predict negative results... |
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Post by afboltfan on Sept 30, 2020 9:43:39 GMT -7
Seems pretty obvious to me... Steichen is in over his head and Lynn can't call a game to save his life. Herbert has already thrown for over 300 yards and Ekeler has proven he can run against anyone, its not the talent.
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 30, 2020 12:49:07 GMT -7
Today’s presser: Lynn said that Herbert was practicing as the starter until Taylor comes back. Huh. Sounds like it’s going to be a year full of material for those of us who want to see a new coaching staff.
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Post by totallybolted on Sept 30, 2020 12:54:42 GMT -7
Today’s presser: Lynn said that Herbert was practicing as the starter until Taylor comes back. Huh. Sounds like it’s going to be a year full of material for those of us who want to see a new coaching staff. In all fairness, we have not seen TT at full strength this year. I'll have to cut him some slack playing with cracked ribs. though also to be fair, his history says he is what he is. But if in practice TT is clearly better?
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 30, 2020 13:04:15 GMT -7
Today’s presser: Lynn said that Herbert was practicing as the starter until Taylor comes back. Huh. Sounds like it’s going to be a year full of material for those of us who want to see a new coaching staff. In all fairness, we have not seen TT at full strength this year. I'll have to cut him some slack playing with cracked ribs. though also to be fair, his history says he is what he is. But if in practice TT is clearly better? At this point, who cares if TT is marginally better? Herbert is the future, he’s doing quite well (albeit with some rookie mistakes), and the only way for him to improve is to play. If Lynn wants to go backwards because he needs his safety binky Tyrod he should be fired. But he should be fired anyway. |
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Post by cthommes on Sept 30, 2020 20:16:07 GMT -7
The reality is as expected. We have a #1 qb that isn't good. We have a #2 qb that isn't ready. We have just concluded 14 years of a top tier iron man qb. We have a fan base calling for everyone's head on a stake after week three. All boxes checked. If by #2 QB you are referring to Herbert, I would disagree with the assertion Herbert is not ready, as he clearly is. I am, and he clearly is not. Stupid turnovers, missing reads, not seeing open receivers, missing throws, poor decisions. As expected of a rookie forced into a starting role he hasn't been prepared for. I'm not saying he's not good, but if you're not seeing that he's not ready, you're not watching the games (hmm...) The eye test says he's not ready. The coaching staff says he's got a lot to learn. The playbook is very obviously not wide open. The upside is clear. The heart, leadership, and effort is clear. The talent is clear. I'm excited about him. But he's not ready. |
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 30, 2020 21:09:36 GMT -7
A not ready Herbert is just a Herbert that needs more playing time. And a not ready Herbert is better than Taylor. Time to move forward as this season is going to be like last year anyway. Bad coaching staff, bad OL, and injuries.
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Post by totallybolted on Oct 1, 2020 5:39:24 GMT -7
If by #2 QB you are referring to Herbert, I would disagree with the assertion Herbert is not ready, as he clearly is. I am, and he clearly is not. Stupid turnovers, missing reads, not seeing open receivers, missing throws, poor decisions. As expected of a rookie forced into a starting role he hasn't been prepared for. I'm not saying he's not good, but if you're not seeing that he's not ready, you're not watching the games (hmm...) The eye test says he's not ready. The coaching staff says he's got a lot to learn. The playbook is very obviously not wide open. The upside is clear. The heart, leadership, and effort is clear. The talent is clear. I'm excited about him. But he's not ready. solid fair assessment.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 2, 2020 2:38:11 GMT -7
In all fairness, we have not seen TT at full strength this year. I'll have to cut him some slack playing with cracked ribs. though also to be fair, his history says he is what he is. But if in practice TT is clearly better? At this point, who cares if TT is marginally better? Herbert is the future, he’s doing quite well (albeit with some rookie mistakes), and the only way for him to improve is to play. If Lynn wants to go backwards because he needs his safety binky Tyrod he should be fired. But he should be fired anyway. Yeah, when we are using binky for smack, its getting Nominated like every time. POTD.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 2, 2020 2:44:19 GMT -7
If by #2 QB you are referring to Herbert, I would disagree with the assertion Herbert is not ready, as he clearly is. I am, and he clearly is not. Stupid turnovers, missing reads, not seeing open receivers, missing throws, poor decisions. As expected of a rookie forced into a starting role he hasn't been prepared for. I'm not saying he's not good, but if you're not seeing that he's not ready, you're not watching the games (hmm...) The eye test says he's not ready. The coaching staff says he's got a lot to learn. The playbook is very obviously not wide open. The upside is clear. The heart, leadership, and effort is clear. The talent is clear. I'm excited about him. But he's not ready. I think...................which means everyone will automatically think the same way instantaneously, is we have to go through rookie growing pains no matter what. Why not get it out of the way ? "missing reads, not seeing open receivers, missing throws, poor decisions." I haven't seen a lot of that stuff. Let me put it into context for you. He's performing the way he is with Groy and Pipkins blocking while he throws to some Guyton.....................Herbert might be miracle on the turf at that point.............................
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Post by afboltfan on Oct 2, 2020 8:22:40 GMT -7
I am, and he clearly is not. Stupid turnovers, missing reads, not seeing open receivers, missing throws, poor decisions. As expected of a rookie forced into a starting role he hasn't been prepared for. I'm not saying he's not good, but if you're not seeing that he's not ready, you're not watching the games (hmm...) The eye test says he's not ready. The coaching staff says he's got a lot to learn. The playbook is very obviously not wide open. The upside is clear. The heart, leadership, and effort is clear. The talent is clear. I'm excited about him. But he's not ready. I think...................which means everyone will automatically think the same way instantaneously, is we have to go through rookie growing pains no matter what. Why not get it out of the way ? " missing reads, not seeing open receivers, missing throws, poor decisions." I haven't seen a lot of that stuff. Let me put it into context for you. He's performing the way he is with Groy and Pipkins blocking while he throws to some Guyton.....................Herbert might be miracle on the turf at that point............................. Hmmm... Sounds exactly like a future HoF'er Philip Rivers... I have no problem putting Tyrod back in when he is healthy, I personally think he is owed one more game. But if Tyrod can't get it done, Lynn must not stick with him for the sake of Herbert being a rookie and Tyrod being AL's "guy".
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