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Post by afboltfan on May 31, 2021 19:26:00 GMT -7
Reason #1: .....Team probably not going to Superbowl due to playing Chiefs 2 or 3 times. If we're probably not getting past KC with Jones, why bother? Julio's clock is ticking. Chiefs are mortal again, I'm honestly not impressed with them.
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Post by jwr10x on May 31, 2021 20:08:50 GMT -7
I don't see us getting Jones. He has said wherever he is traded to he expects to get a new contract.
I would rather see us use our funds left to pickup talent that ends up being cut from the other teams due to salary cap or lack of space to get to 53 and build some extra depth on the OL/DL to fill in for the injuries that will come in a 17 game season.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 1, 2021 2:56:41 GMT -7
Very interesting, for teams that are not Atlanta, did you know the Chargers are in third place for betting where JJ will go ?? Patriots +450 Titans +500 Chargers +550 Hey CMB, honouring Memorial Day. I've seen the Chargers odds of acquiring Julio Jones ranked as high as #5 and more recently #9. We are definitely a Dark Horse team. Regardless, I like our Bolts chances as the ideal trade partner for several reasons: 1. Team not in your division (check), Team not in your conference (check), Team probably not going to Superbowl due to playing Chiefs 2 or 3 times (check). 2. We have the money to do this as Chargers rank #4 in Cap space. If we don't spend some on Julio in 2021, then perhaps Davante Adams in 2022. Win. Win. 3. Some have mentioned that TT wouldn't give up a high draft pick in a trade, but that couldn't be further from the truth. How many times have we traded up for a player...let alone an unproven player? 4. Hype and Homerism aside, I'm expecting the Chargers 2022 1st rounder to be in the low-mid 20s. That's Bust Territory IMHO. Give me a proven Julio Jones in a trade all day even if the asking price is a 1st. 5. If need be, Chargers have a decent stable of young WRs they can package in a deal (excluding Mike Williams who will cost too much): Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, K.J. Hill, Joe Reed, Jason Moore, John Hurst, Eli Stove. Perhaps my favorite reason: 6. Why isn't there more talk about New Head Coach Brandon Staley who came over from the Rams organization who love acquiring proven "Superstars". Hello...JULIO JONES, is there a bigger proven Superstar to go get? Lesser reasons: 7. Like Tim Tebow, the NFL will appreciate Julio's new jersey sales wherever he goes, but let's be honest. Our Bolts have THE BEST LOOKING JERSEY IN ALL OF SPORTS. 8. Side note, WR Jason Moore currently wears #11. P Lachlan Edwards currently wears #8 which is the number Julio wore in college at Alabama. Let's all imagine #11 or #8 in powder blue...with JONES on the back. I'll end with this. Most are expecting the Patriots (AFC), Ravens (AFC), Titans (AFC), Raiders (AFC), 49ers (NFC), Packers (NFC), Seahawks (NFC) as the landing spot for Julio. Ask yourselves, aren't our Bolts the true "WOW!!!" choice for this trade? I say let's have a "memorial" season with Justin Herbert throwing 50 TDs to Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jared Cook, Donald Parham, Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, Josh Palmer and Austin Ekeler out the backfield. Didn't see that coming... Well thought out post.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 1, 2021 2:59:45 GMT -7
I don't see us getting Jones. He has said wherever he is traded to he expects to get a new contract. I would rather see us use our funds left to pickup talent that ends up being cut from the other teams due to salary cap or lack of space to get to 53 and build some extra depth on the OL/DL to fill in for the injuries that will come in a 17 game season. "Most are expecting the Patriots (AFC), Ravens (AFC), Titans (AFC), 49ers (NFC), Packers (NFC), Seahawks (NFC) as the landing spot for Julio. " What separates us from them ? They pursue players like Julio Jones each year, while we pursue other teams cuts for line depth.
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Post by headtrip on Jun 1, 2021 6:12:23 GMT -7
I don't see us getting Jones. He has said wherever he is traded to he expects to get a new contract. I would rather see us use our funds left to pickup talent that ends up being cut from the other teams due to salary cap or lack of space to get to 53 and build some extra depth on the OL/DL to fill in for the injuries that will come in a 17 game season. "Most are expecting the Patriots (AFC), Ravens (AFC), Titans (AFC), 49ers (NFC), Packers (NFC), Seahawks (NFC) as the landing spot for Julio. " What separates us from them ? They pursue players like Julio Jones each year, while we pursue other teams cuts for line depth. TT and crew certainly value their draft picks and their discount players. I can’t see us adding Julio but my goodness, Julio outside with KA in the slot would be something to behold.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 2, 2021 12:22:29 GMT -7
Baldinger is a lot higher on Kenneth Murray than our own royalty.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 2, 2021 18:42:55 GMT -7
I'm excited to see K9 playing in HC Staley's defense. Among others. There is serious talent on LAC's D.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 3, 2021 2:58:25 GMT -7
Baldinger is a lot higher on Kenneth Murray than our own royalty. Do I say that's not true, or its a lie ? I'm very high on the guy with hopes. I point out the guy did NOT play up to expectations his rookie year, and you twist that I hate him. MURRAY just said Murray did not play up to expectations in the article YOU posted on here !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love that Murray addressed the elephant in his room that I with genius pointed out to all of you. He says it wasn't his scheme, it wasn't a good role for him, etc. I accept that at face value. Now Staley has given him the green light on what he wanted. Now is go time. Now is the time to show Freak. Isn't it now ? I'm worried about that shoulder surgery. He says he's 100%, but I'm glad the Chargers have not medically cleared him yet. I would give that all the time they can to heal.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 3, 2021 9:05:58 GMT -7
Baldinger is a lot higher on Kenneth Murray than our own royalty. Do I say that's not true, or its a lie ? I'm very high on the guy with hopes. I point out the guy did NOT play up to expectations his rookie year, and you twist that I hate him. MURRAY just said Murray did not play up to expectations in the article YOU posted on here !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love that Murray addressed the elephant in his room that I with genius pointed out to all of you. He says it wasn't his scheme, it wasn't a good role for him, etc. I accept that at face value. Now Staley has given him the green light on what he wanted. Now is go time. Now is the time to show Freak. Isn't it now ? I'm worried about that shoulder surgery. He says he's 100%, but I'm glad the Chargers have not medically cleared him yet. I would give that all the time they can to heal. They put too much on the rookie’s plate in a rookie season that was missing OTA’s, a normal training camp and preseason games by having him make defensive calls right out of the gate. Add in the fact that Bradley was trying to fit a square peg into his defensive scheme’s round hole and you have the recipe for underperformance. As Baldinger pointed out, Murray was much improved in December despite the fact that his shoulder was injured to such an extent that he needed offseason surgery. Yes, Murray underperformed, but IMO he wasn’t a massive disappointment his rookie year and the future looks bright for a square peg who will be plugged into a square hole in Year 2. 🍺
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 3, 2021 9:35:21 GMT -7
Do I say that's not true, or its a lie ? I'm very high on the guy with hopes. I point out the guy did NOT play up to expectations his rookie year, and you twist that I hate him. MURRAY just said Murray did not play up to expectations in the article YOU posted on here !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love that Murray addressed the elephant in his room that I with genius pointed out to all of you. He says it wasn't his scheme, it wasn't a good role for him, etc. I accept that at face value. Now Staley has given him the green light on what he wanted. Now is go time. Now is the time to show Freak. Isn't it now ? I'm worried about that shoulder surgery. He says he's 100%, but I'm glad the Chargers have not medically cleared him yet. I would give that all the time they can to heal. They put too much on the rookie’s plate in a rookie season that was missing OTA’s, a normal training camp and preseason games by having him make defensive calls right out of the gate. Add in the fact that Bradley was trying to fit a square peg into his defensive scheme’s round hole and you have the recipe for underperformance. As Baldinger pointed out, Murray was much improved in December despite the fact that his shoulder was injured to such an extent that he needed offseason surgery. Yes, Murray underperformed, but IMO he wasn’t a massive disappointment his rookie year and the future looks bright for a square peg who will be plugged into a square hole in Year 2. 🍺 That's all I ever said, and the pitchforks came out. Its lonely at the top. Looking ahead, I LOVE TFL. He was a TFL killer at Oklahoma. I need that stat to rise in the NFL. His other gift is sideline to sideline play. I need that to excel. He loves to blitz for sacks, but I honestly don't believe that is a strength of his. Without a Bosa bookend, I fear he will get his wish. They may have to send him more often than I like. I want to see him dominate the second level. I want the offense to rue the fact that there dared to run a play in the second level. I want him to take the second level and shove it down the offense's throat. Do I want Junior Seau's replacement ? Yes, yes I do.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 3, 2021 11:06:14 GMT -7
They put too much on the rookie’s plate in a rookie season that was missing OTA’s, a normal training camp and preseason games by having him make defensive calls right out of the gate. Add in the fact that Bradley was trying to fit a square peg into his defensive scheme’s round hole and you have the recipe for underperformance. As Baldinger pointed out, Murray was much improved in December despite the fact that his shoulder was injured to such an extent that he needed offseason surgery. Yes, Murray underperformed, but IMO he wasn’t a massive disappointment his rookie year and the future looks bright for a square peg who will be plugged into a square hole in Year 2. 🍺 That's all I ever said, and the pitchforks came out. Its lonely at the top. Looking ahead, I LOVE TFL. He was a TFL killer at Oklahoma. I need that stat to rise in the NFL. His other gift is sideline to sideline play. I need that to excel. He loves to blitz for sacks, but I honestly don't believe that is a strength of his. Without a Bosa bookend, I fear he will get his wish. They may have to send him more often than I like. I want to see him dominate the second level. I want the offense to rue the fact that there dared to run a play in the second level. I want him to take the second level and shove it down the offense's throat. Do I want Junior Seau's replacement ? Yes, yes I do. I thought of Jr also. Good luck K9.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 3, 2021 11:51:16 GMT -7
Three teams ready to make playoff run in '21 after missing out in '20 Jim Trotter NFL.com Columnist
While some issues remain outstanding -- like whether Aaron Rodgers will be traded (don't see it) and which team will land Julio Jones (New England) -- many of the league's 32 clubs have locked in their rosters for training camp. Hence, we have a more complete landscape when trying to predict how the 2021 season will play out.
Truth is, we may think we know what's going to happen, but we don't really know, and that's the beauty of this time of year. You can be bold, because the answers to the test are months away. For now, everyone is right, and no one is wrong.
Rather than attempt to select my favorites to win the Super Bowl, I'm going to identify three teams that, I believe, will make deep postseason runs after missing the playoffs last season. A lot of factors will ultimately come into play, the health of these squads being No. 1, but rather than provide a bunch of disclaimers, let's just play the game without reading the rules. Makes it more interesting, no?
In reverse order:
3. Los Angeles Chargers
REASONS TO BE BULLISH: I know some of you will remind me that I say this every year, but the fact remains that few rosters are as talented as the Chargers'. There simply are no glaring holes. Quarterback Justin Herbert is coming off one of the best rookie seasons ever; the receiving corps is talented, featuring veterans Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and rookie Josh Palmer; the offensive line was upgraded with the addition of first-round draft pick Rashawn Slater and the signing of center Corey Linsley; and the defense has playmakers on every level, from end Joey Bosa to inside linebacker Kenneth Murray Jr. to safety Derwin James. Cornerback Asante Samuel Jr. could also end up being a steal as a second-round pick, as some teams had a first-round grade on him. Also, seven of the Chargers' nine losses last season were by one score, including five by five points or less, with two of those coming in overtime. They won their final four games after a 3-9 start, which reflects a roster filled with character and leadership.
REASONS TO BE SKITTISH: This team often can't get out of its own way. Whether it's dubious game management, breakdowns in execution or injuries to the stars, something always seems to prevent the Chargers from fulfilling their potential. James was voted All-Pro as a rookie in 2018 but has played only five games the past two seasons because of injury. Bosa has played full seasons just twice in five years and has missed 13 games over the past three seasons because of injury. And offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga, the Chargers' priority free-agent signing last year, missed six games with an injury after missing only two in his final two seasons in Green Bay.
So, injury concerns are always front and center with this team. But another unknown is how Brandon Staley will handle his first opportunity as a head coach. He had a fantastic showing last year in his only NFL season as a coordinator, overseeing the Rams' No. 1-ranked defense. But he also is just five years removed from being a coordinator at Division III John Carroll University. The 38-year-old Ohio native might be the next Boy Wonder, but he also might not. It remains to be seen whether it was wise to not bring back key members of the offensive staff, particularly considering the success Herbert had en route to winning Offensive Rookie of the Year.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 3, 2021 12:15:45 GMT -7
"Also, seven of the Chargers' nine losses last season were by one score, including five by five points or less, with two of those coming in overtime. They won their final four games after a 3-9 start, which reflects a roster filled with character and leadership."
I agree with this, and we need to turn those one score losses into wins. We REALLY are that close. I see playoffs this year. Def. goal.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 3, 2021 12:18:04 GMT -7
Looking forward to having a healthy Ek in 2021. He leads the NFL in this category since 2019 despite effectively missing half of the 2020 season with the freakish hamstring tear.
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Post by moekid on Jun 3, 2021 12:57:28 GMT -7
"Also, seven of the Chargers' nine losses last season were by one score, including five by five points or less, with two of those coming in overtime. They won their final four games after a 3-9 start, which reflects a roster filled with character and leadership." I agree with this, and we need to turn those one score losses into wins. We REALLY are that close. I see playoffs this year. Def. goal. Playoffs are realistic IMO. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t get there. But I’m usually disappointed
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