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Post by frozendisc on May 24, 2021 11:29:47 GMT -7
While MI is an ex-Bolt, and this is news in the NFL world somewhat, I for one am glad he has moved on.
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Post by joemcrugby on May 24, 2021 20:08:59 GMT -7
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Post by chargerfreak on May 25, 2021 2:04:16 GMT -7
Very interesting, for teams that are not Atlanta, did you know the Chargers are in third place for betting where JJ will go ?? Patriots +450 Titans +500 Chargers +550
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Post by afboltfan on May 25, 2021 6:12:18 GMT -7
TT won't give up a 1st or 2nd, I think we have a snowballs chance in hell.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 25, 2021 7:44:09 GMT -7
TT won't give up a 1st or 2nd, I think we have a snowballs chance in hell. He traded a second AND a third round for Kenneth Murray. But no 2nd for Julio Jones. Analysis Approved.
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Post by joemcrugby on May 25, 2021 10:27:48 GMT -7
TT won't give up a 1st or 2nd, I think we have a snowballs chance in hell. He traded a second AND a third round for Kenneth Murray. But no 2nd for Julio Jones. Analysis Approved. That’s shoddy analysis comparing a trade of an active player to draft pick swaps IMO. TT only “gave up” a 3rd to move up 15 spots. That’s the only draft pick they sacrificed since the extra first round pick replaced the 2nd round pick. If they trade a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Jones, they are down two draft pick selections, not one like with Murray. The big issue is how they would fit Jones’ contract into the squad. It will require cuts or forced contract restructures to do it, and Ed McGuire generally is disdainful of cooking the contract books by forcing restructures that push cap hits on a credit card.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 25, 2021 10:52:19 GMT -7
He traded a second AND a third round for Kenneth Murray. But no 2nd for Julio Jones. Analysis Approved. That’s shoddy analysis comparing a trade of an active player to draft pick swaps IMO. TT only “gave up” a 3rd to move up 15 spots. That’s the only draft pick they sacrificed since the extra first round pick replaced the 2nd round pick. If they trade a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Jones, they are down two draft pick selections, not one like with Murray. The big issue is how they would fit Jones’ contract into the squad. It will require cuts or forced contract restructures to do it, and Ed McGuire generally is disdainful of cooking the contract books by forcing restructures that push cap hits on a credit card. No one said a 2nd and a 3rd for Jones. Stop adding to the equation to fit your narrative. (Freaking lawyers anyway) SURE I'm the crazy one wanting WR's. What would I know, right ? (Palmer in the 3rd, Proehl added later) I know the herd mentality is we are great at WR, but there are two nagging issues...................MY genius, and bookmakers having us as a third odds for getting him, and I mean SLIM third place odds. Now why on earth would they have us there.........Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Crazytalk, right ? REACT AS I FORCE YOU TO EXPLORE WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by afboltfan on May 25, 2021 12:52:35 GMT -7
I would honestly rather have a RB of Julio Jones caliber than a WR named Julio Jones... Any disgruntled RB1's out there???
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Post by chargerfreak on May 25, 2021 13:38:05 GMT -7
I would honestly rather have a RB of Julio Jones caliber than a WR named Julio Jones... Any disgruntled RB1's out there??? Ballage ?
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Post by afboltfan on May 25, 2021 14:00:43 GMT -7
I would honestly rather have a RB of Julio Jones caliber than a WR named Julio Jones... Any disgruntled RB1's out there??? Ballage ?
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Post by headtrip on May 31, 2021 7:20:10 GMT -7
Possibly the best WR in football for a 2? All day long.
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Post by BleuMoon on May 31, 2021 10:44:04 GMT -7
Very interesting, for teams that are not Atlanta, did you know the Chargers are in third place for betting where JJ will go ?? Patriots +450 Titans +500 Chargers +550 Hey CMB, honouring Memorial Day. I've seen the Chargers odds of acquiring Julio Jones ranked as high as #5 and more recently #9. We are definitely a Dark Horse team. Regardless, I like our Bolts chances as the ideal trade partner for several reasons: 1. Team not in your division (check), Team not in your conference (check), Team probably not going to Superbowl due to playing Chiefs 2 or 3 times (check). 2. We have the money to do this as Chargers rank #4 in Cap space. If we don't spend some on Julio in 2021, then perhaps Davante Adams in 2022. Win. Win. 3. Some have mentioned that TT wouldn't give up a high draft pick in a trade, but that couldn't be further from the truth. How many times have we traded up for a player...let alone an unproven player? 4. Hype and Homerism aside, I'm expecting the Chargers 2022 1st rounder to be in the low-mid 20s. That's Bust Territory IMHO. Give me a proven Julio Jones in a trade all day even if the asking price is a 1st. 5. If need be, Chargers have a decent stable of young WRs they can package in a deal (excluding Mike Williams who will cost too much): Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, K.J. Hill, Joe Reed, Jason Moore, John Hurst, Eli Stove. Perhaps my favorite reason: 6. Why isn't there more talk about New Head Coach Brandon Staley who came over from the Rams organization who love acquiring proven "Superstars". Hello...JULIO JONES, is there a bigger proven Superstar to go get? Lesser reasons: 7. Like Tim Tebow, the NFL will appreciate Julio's new jersey sales wherever he goes, but let's be honest. Our Bolts have THE BEST LOOKING JERSEY IN ALL OF SPORTS. 8. Side note, WR Jason Moore currently wears #11. P Lachlan Edwards currently wears #8 which is the number Julio wore in college at Alabama. Let's all imagine #11 or #8 in powder blue...with JONES on the back. I'll end with this. Most are expecting the Patriots (AFC), Ravens (AFC), Titans (AFC), Raiders (AFC), 49ers (NFC), Packers (NFC), Seahawks (NFC) as the landing spot for Julio. Ask yourselves, aren't our Bolts the true "WOW!!!" choice for this trade? I say let's have a "memorial" season with Justin Herbert throwing 50 TDs to Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jared Cook, Donald Parham, Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, Josh Palmer and Austin Ekeler out the backfield. Didn't see that coming...
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Post by sonorajim on May 31, 2021 11:33:24 GMT -7
Reason #1: .....Team probably not going to Superbowl due to playing Chiefs 2 or 3 times.
If we're probably not getting past KC with Jones, why bother? Julio's clock is ticking.
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Post by headtrip on May 31, 2021 14:46:25 GMT -7
Very interesting, for teams that are not Atlanta, did you know the Chargers are in third place for betting where JJ will go ?? Patriots +450 Titans +500 Chargers +550 Hey CMB, honouring Memorial Day. I've seen the Chargers odds of acquiring Julio Jones ranked as high as #5 and more recently #9. We are definitely a Dark Horse team. Regardless, I like our Bolts chances as the ideal trade partner for several reasons: 1. Team not in your division (check), Team not in your conference (check), Team probably not going to Superbowl due to playing Chiefs 2 or 3 times (check). 2. We have the money to do this as Chargers rank #4 in Cap space. If we don't spend some on Julio in 2021, then perhaps Davante Adams in 2022. Win. Win. 3. Some have mentioned that TT wouldn't give up a high draft pick in a trade, but that couldn't be further from the truth. How many times have we traded up for a player...let alone an unproven player? 4. Hype and Homerism aside, I'm expecting the Chargers 2022 1st rounder to be in the low-mid 20s. That's Bust Territory IMHO. Give me a proven Julio Jones in a trade all day even if the asking price is a 1st. 5. If need be, Chargers have a decent stable of young WRs they can package in a deal (excluding Mike Williams who will cost too much): Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, K.J. Hill, Joe Reed, Jason Moore, John Hurst, Eli Stove. Perhaps my favorite reason: 6. Why isn't there more talk about New Head Coach Brandon Staley who came over from the Rams organization who love acquiring proven "Superstars". Hello...JULIO JONES, is there a bigger proven Superstar to go get? Lesser reasons: 7. Like Tim Tebow, the NFL will appreciate Julio's new jersey sales wherever he goes, but let's be honest. Our Bolts have THE BEST LOOKING JERSEY IN ALL OF SPORTS. 8. Side note, WR Jason Moore currently wears #11. P Lachlan Edwards currently wears #8 which is the number Julio wore in college at Alabama. Let's all imagine #11 or #8 in powder blue...with JONES on the back. I'll end with this. Most are expecting the Patriots (AFC), Ravens (AFC), Titans (AFC), Raiders (AFC), 49ers (NFC), Packers (NFC), Seahawks (NFC) as the landing spot for Julio. Ask yourselves, aren't our Bolts the true "WOW!!!" choice for this trade? I say let's have a "memorial" season with Justin Herbert throwing 50 TDs to Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jared Cook, Donald Parham, Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, Josh Palmer and Austin Ekeler out the backfield. Didn't see that coming... well done
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Post by headtrip on May 31, 2021 18:27:50 GMT -7
Very interesting, for teams that are not Atlanta, did you know the Chargers are in third place for betting where JJ will go ?? Patriots +450 Titans +500 Chargers +550 Hey CMB, honouring Memorial Day. I've seen the Chargers odds of acquiring Julio Jones ranked as high as #5 and more recently #9. We are definitely a Dark Horse team. Regardless, I like our Bolts chances as the ideal trade partner for several reasons: 1. Team not in your division (check), Team not in your conference (check), Team probably not going to Superbowl due to playing Chiefs 2 or 3 times (check). 2. We have the money to do this as Chargers rank #4 in Cap space. If we don't spend some on Julio in 2021, then perhaps Davante Adams in 2022. Win. Win. 3. Some have mentioned that TT wouldn't give up a high draft pick in a trade, but that couldn't be further from the truth. How many times have we traded up for a player...let alone an unproven player? 4. Hype and Homerism aside, I'm expecting the Chargers 2022 1st rounder to be in the low-mid 20s. That's Bust Territory IMHO. Give me a proven Julio Jones in a trade all day even if the asking price is a 1st. 5. If need be, Chargers have a decent stable of young WRs they can package in a deal (excluding Mike Williams who will cost too much): Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, K.J. Hill, Joe Reed, Jason Moore, John Hurst, Eli Stove. Perhaps my favorite reason: 6. Why isn't there more talk about New Head Coach Brandon Staley who came over from the Rams organization who love acquiring proven "Superstars". Hello...JULIO JONES, is there a bigger proven Superstar to go get? Lesser reasons: 7. Like Tim Tebow, the NFL will appreciate Julio's new jersey sales wherever he goes, but let's be honest. Our Bolts have THE BEST LOOKING JERSEY IN ALL OF SPORTS. 8. Side note, WR Jason Moore currently wears #11. P Lachlan Edwards currently wears #8 which is the number Julio wore in college at Alabama. Let's all imagine #11 or #8 in powder blue...with JONES on the back. I'll end with this. Most are expecting the Patriots (AFC), Ravens (AFC), Titans (AFC), Raiders (AFC), 49ers (NFC), Packers (NFC), Seahawks (NFC) as the landing spot for Julio. Ask yourselves, aren't our Bolts the true "WOW!!!" choice for this trade? I say let's have a "memorial" season with Justin Herbert throwing 50 TDs to Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jared Cook, Donald Parham, Jalen Guyton, Tyron Johnson, Josh Palmer and Austin Ekeler out the backfield. Didn't see that coming... well done
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