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Post by afboltfan on Feb 27, 2021 6:02:22 GMT -7
The manner in which he has become available is the big question mark for me, just doesn't sit right. Our track record for FA oline is no better than draft, but the FA cost more and have a bigger impact when not available IMHO. Maybe Brown would be a great player, perhaps he is different than the rest, I guess we'll see... There is no would be because he already is. So was Trai Turner.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 27, 2021 8:07:21 GMT -7
Been busy lately.....
I agree with the view of drafting and building an OL group that develops with Herbert. That said, I would certainly consider FA's, especially an OC.
Give me an OC and OG through FA.....draft a new LOT and a possible ROT to replace Bulaga in a year.
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 27, 2021 11:44:59 GMT -7
The manner in which he has become available is the big question mark for me, just doesn't sit right. Our track record for FA oline is no better than draft, but the FA cost more and have a bigger impact when not available IMHO. Maybe Brown would be a great player, perhaps he is different than the rest, I guess we'll see... There is no would be because he already is. for another team in the past. He is not a great Chargers OL.
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 27, 2021 12:13:19 GMT -7
Been busy lately..... I agree with the view of drafting and building an OL group that develops with Herbert. That said, I would certainly consider FA's, especially an OC. Give me an OC and OG through FA.....draft a new LOT and a possible ROT to replace Bulaga in a year. My best case is #13 LT, an OG/C by rd 4, a FA OG/C and a sprinkling of late rd, UDFA OL. We need to give the coaches some guys who are legit competition for starting slots. There will be a quality OT available at 13. Spend draft capital on a long term LT, cap $ on Henry & FA OG/C.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 28, 2021 4:47:35 GMT -7
There is no would be because he already is.for another team in the past. He is not a great Chargers OL. He did not write Chargers sir.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 28, 2021 8:34:37 GMT -7
Been busy lately..... I agree with the view of drafting and building an OL group that develops with Herbert. That said, I would certainly consider FA's, especially an OC. Give me an OC and OG through FA.....draft a new LOT and a possible ROT to replace Bulaga in a year. My best case is #13 LT, an OG/C by rd 4, a FA OG/C and a sprinkling of late rd, UDFA OL. We need to give the coaches some guys who are legit competition for starting slots. There will be a quality OT available at 13. Spend draft capital on a long term LT, cap $ on Henry & FA OG/C.
13th pick is going to be interesting in that it will be difficult to pass on what many will perceive as better available talent to take the LOT that the Bolts so desperately need. For me, if Slater is there, you take him. If Slater is gone, and best LOT is Darrisaw, then TT must look at the other available talent on the board, and maybe go in a different direction than OT. Regardless of position, the 13th pick needs to be a starter that is on the field, and impacting play.
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 28, 2021 11:36:08 GMT -7
My best case is #13 LT, an OG/C by rd 4, a FA OG/C and a sprinkling of late rd, UDFA OL. We need to give the coaches some guys who are legit competition for starting slots. There will be a quality OT available at 13. Spend draft capital on a long term LT, cap $ on Henry & FA OG/C.
13th pick is going to be interesting in that it will be difficult to pass on what many will perceive as better available talent to take the LOT that the Bolts so desperately need. For me, if Slater is there, you take him. If Slater is gone, and best LOT is Darrisaw, then TT must look at the other available talent on the board, and maybe go in a different direction than OT. Regardless of position, the 13th pick needs to be a starter that is on the field, and impacting play. Totally agree.
I believe that there are OTs in the draft that would be better starting left tackles for the Chargers in 2021 over Tevi, Pipkins, Norton or Bulaga. One will be there.
We could get a vet LT via FA that involves considerably greater cap and comes with few guarantees. I prefer one of Sewell, Slater, Darrisaw, Vera-Tucker.
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 28, 2021 11:43:27 GMT -7
Has been for another team in the past. He is not a great Chargers OL. He did not write Chargers sir.. Somebody mentioned them.That aside, the fact remains that he was regarded as a great OT in a past season on a team that was not the Chargers
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 28, 2021 11:47:21 GMT -7
13th pick is going to be interesting in that it will be difficult to pass on what many will perceive as better available talent to take the LOT that the Bolts so desperately need. For me, if Slater is there, you take him. If Slater is gone, and best LOT is Darrisaw, then TT must look at the other available talent on the board, and maybe go in a different direction than OT. Regardless of position, the 13th pick needs to be a starter that is on the field, and impacting play. Totally agree.
I believe that there are OTs in the draft that would be better starting left tackles for the Chargers in 2021 over Tevi, Pipkins, Norton or Bulaga. One will be there.
We could get a vet LT via FA that involves considerably greater cap and comes with few guarantees. I prefer one of Sewell, Slater, Darrisaw, Vera-Tucker.
If I am using the 13th pick, Slater is the one OT that might be there that I take for certain. Otherwise, with Sewell and Slater gone, I would need to look at the other talented options on the board. I prefer Darrisaw over V-T, but both should be there and both will be good, so....either or. Not a chance I would waste cap on an overpriced LOT from FA.
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 28, 2021 13:01:13 GMT -7
Totally agree.
I believe that there are OTs in the draft that would be better starting left tackles for the Chargers in 2021 over Tevi, Pipkins, Norton or Bulaga. One will be there.
We could get a vet LT via FA that involves considerably greater cap and comes with few guarantees. I prefer one of Sewell, Slater, Darrisaw, Vera-Tucker.
If I am using the 13th pick, Slater is the one OT that might be there that I take for certain. Otherwise, with Sewell and Slater gone, I would need to look at the other talented options on the board. I prefer Darrisaw over V-T, but both should be there and both will be good, so....either or.
Not a chance I would waste cap on an overpriced LOT from FA. Close to 70% or better of all starting NFL left tackles were 1st round picks. Take FA off the table, #13 is really saying LT strongly. We need one and I don't think this is the right time to buck the odds. This isn't a bad group to draw from.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 28, 2021 15:08:16 GMT -7
If I am using the 13th pick, Slater is the one OT that might be there that I take for certain. Otherwise, with Sewell and Slater gone, I would need to look at the other talented options on the board. I prefer Darrisaw over V-T, but both should be there and both will be good, so....either or.
Not a chance I would waste cap on an overpriced LOT from FA.Close to 70% or better of all starting NFL left tackles were 1st round picks. Take FA off the table, #13 is really saying LT strongly. We need one and I don't think this is the right time to buck the odds. This isn't a bad group to draw from. I tend to agree, top 15 pick is perfect for getting a great LOT, and Bolts won't be drafting this high again for a good while if Staley is decent HC. I am not really enamored with any of the other options, good players no doubt, but this really feels like OT pick. I actually hope TT drafts two OT's.....second one 4th or 5th round. He won't.....but the OL group really is that bad, needs serious influx of new players.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 1, 2021 3:03:44 GMT -7
Totally agree.
I believe that there are OTs in the draft that would be better starting left tackles for the Chargers in 2021 over Tevi, Pipkins, Norton or Bulaga. One will be there.
We could get a vet LT via FA that involves considerably greater cap and comes with few guarantees. I prefer one of Sewell, Slater, Darrisaw, Vera-Tucker.
If I am using the 13th pick, Slater is the one OT that might be there that I take for certain. Otherwise, with Sewell and Slater gone, I would need to look at the other talented options on the board. I prefer Darrisaw over V-T, but both should be there and both will be good, so....either or. Not a chance I would waste cap on an overpriced LOT from FA. Do you have any concern that Slater did not play last year ?
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 1, 2021 7:12:19 GMT -7
If I am using the 13th pick, Slater is the one OT that might be there that I take for certain. Otherwise, with Sewell and Slater gone, I would need to look at the other talented options on the board. I prefer Darrisaw over V-T, but both should be there and both will be good, so....either or. Not a chance I would waste cap on an overpriced LOT from FA. Do you have any concern that Slater did not play last year ? No more than I would be for any other player that missed a season due to injury. Slater should be fresh and good to go, even though I admit he will require more conditioning and a full training camp. Rookie linemen are typically not pro bowlers out the gate anyways...
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 1, 2021 7:35:19 GMT -7
If I am using the 13th pick, Slater is the one OT that might be there that I take for certain. Otherwise, with Sewell and Slater gone, I would need to look at the other talented options on the board. I prefer Darrisaw over V-T, but both should be there and both will be good, so....either or. Not a chance I would waste cap on an overpriced LOT from FA. Do you have any concern that Slater did not play last year ? Nope..... My only concerns lie with Slater being a rookie, as such, my evaluations of him are unproven at the NFL level.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 1, 2021 8:11:41 GMT -7
Do you have any concern that Slater did not play last year ? Nope..... My only concerns lie with Slater being a rookie, as such, my evaluations of him are unproven at the NFL level. Fair question by me (glorious question actually) and a fair answer by you. I personally have concerns about that. That is a final year of college knowledge, experience, learning, and football physicality that he has missed. That's a step backwards no matter what. Could be a goodie in year 2-3. Do you want to wait while his snaps are cut and his learning curve is now bigger ? I don't.
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