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Post by sonorajim on Mar 1, 2021 16:25:30 GMT -7
No more or no less, yet the concern remains, now doesn't it. Love For sure but not for opting out, my concern is the unknown and this organizations ineptitude with fixing the line. Draft picks have not worked and FA's have not worked, our luck has to turn and I'm hoping it will if Slater falls to us at 13. Basically I'd be concerned if we got Brown and I'd be concerned if we got Slater lol! The Telesco Chargers have missed frequently on OL. We can hope that Staley, Lombardi, Smith & Sarrett have a positive impact in that regard in personnel choice, blocking schemes, training and playcalling when we draft a rookie LOT.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 1, 2021 17:27:24 GMT -7
For sure but not for opting out, my concern is the unknown and this organizations ineptitude with fixing the line. Draft picks have not worked and FA's have not worked, our luck has to turn and I'm hoping it will if Slater falls to us at 13. Basically I'd be concerned if we got Brown and I'd be concerned if we got Slater lol! The Telesco Chargers have missed frequently on OL. We can hope that Staley, Lombardi, Smith & Sarrett have a positive impact in that regard in personnel choice, blocking schemes, training and playcalling when we draft a rookie LOT. Maybe those coaches you listed have a positive impact on the OL on roster......perhaps they get Pipkins to play at a top OT level. I suspect Freak will have a heart attack when he reads that......
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 2, 2021 3:33:40 GMT -7
The Telesco Chargers have missed frequently on OL. We can hope that Staley, Lombardi, Smith & Sarrett have a positive impact in that regard in personnel choice, blocking schemes, training and playcalling when we draft a rookie LOT. Maybe those coaches you listed have a positive impact on the OL on roster......perhaps they get Pipkins to play at a top OT level. I suspect Freak will have a heart attack when he reads that...... Don Coryell and Bill Belichick couldn't get top OL play out of Pipkins.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 2, 2021 7:12:34 GMT -7
Maybe those coaches you listed have a positive impact on the OL on roster......perhaps they get Pipkins to play at a top OT level. I suspect Freak will have a heart attack when he reads that...... Don Coryell and Bill Belichick couldn't get top OL play out of Pipkins.  
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Post by sonorajim on Mar 2, 2021 10:53:32 GMT -7
The Telesco Chargers have missed frequently on OL. We can hope that Staley, Lombardi, Smith & Sarrett have a positive impact in that regard in personnel choice, blocking schemes, training and playcalling when we draft a rookie LOT. Maybe those coaches you listed have a positive impact on the OL on roster......perhaps they get Pipkins to play at a top OT level. I suspect Freak will have a heart attack when he reads that...... Pipkins will be a good value for a 2019 3rd if he's decent swing tackle depth. Top OTs are rare after the 1st. The coaches are going to use some hold overs OL.
Staley's influence supposedly will be productive intercommunication between different level coaches & the players. (And the draft team) Get our individuals doing what they do best for the team.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 2, 2021 11:02:19 GMT -7
Maybe those coaches you listed have a positive impact on the OL on roster......perhaps they get Pipkins to play at a top OT level. I suspect Freak will have a heart attack when he reads that...... Pipkins will be a good value for a 2019 3rd if he's decent swing tackle depth. Top OTs are rare after the 1st. The coaches are going to use some hold overs OL.
Staley's influence supposedly will be productive intercommunication between different level coaches & the players. (And the draft team) Get our individuals doing what they do best for the team.
And Poopkins is still under a rookie contract too.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 3, 2021 8:25:27 GMT -7
Maybe those coaches you listed have a positive impact on the OL on roster......perhaps they get Pipkins to play at a top OT level. I suspect Freak will have a heart attack when he reads that...... Pipkins will be a good value for a 2019 3rd if he's decent swing tackle depth. Top OTs are rare after the 1st. The coaches are going to use some hold overs OL.
Staley's influence supposedly will be productive intercommunication between different level coaches & the players. (And the draft team) Get our individuals doing what they do best for the team.
Your comment about 'hold over OL' has me wondering what the mindset is with the Bolt leadership. We clearly have very little information to form much of an opinion on where Staley and staff stand on any of the OL players on roster. We can look at contracts, and cost of walking away, and get an idea about possible moves in that sense. TT has certainly made comments about OL focus, and those comments imply changes coming. My question to all of you is two fold: Which currently rostered OL players make the Opening night roster? How many new OL players (FA and Draft) make the opening night roster?
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 3, 2021 8:28:12 GMT -7
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama is popping up on some mock drafts for us.
But only Freak identified WR as a need for the Chargers, we don't believe him. So what gives. Freak was SO early to this once again. How does he do it ?
I see what I see, and I know what I know.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 3, 2021 9:08:29 GMT -7
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama is popping up on some mock drafts for us. But only Freak identified WR as a need for the Chargers, we don't believe him. So what gives. Freak was SO early to this once again. How does he do it ? I see what I see, and I know what I know. I dunno we've been talking about letting MW walk for awhile now and getting KA some real help... I wouldn't be upset with Waddle if other areas are properly addressed, but I'd still rather go after Smith Schuster.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 3, 2021 9:32:05 GMT -7
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama is popping up on some mock drafts for us. But only Freak identified WR as a need for the Chargers, we don't believe him. So what gives. Freak was SO early to this once again. How does he do it ? I see what I see, and I know what I know. The mocks of today are nothing but click bait....... Using the 13th pick on the best talent available seems wise. The debate will be about whomever is that pick actually being the best talent available....
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 3, 2021 10:16:06 GMT -7
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama is popping up on some mock drafts for us. But only Freak identified WR as a need for the Chargers, we don't believe him. So what gives. Freak was SO early to this once again. How does he do it ? I see what I see, and I know what I know. The mocks of today are nothing but click bait....... Using the 13th pick on the best talent available seems wise. The debate will be about whomever is that pick actually being the best talent available.... WR doesn't have to be first round either. FA and other rounds are available. I just know we need one. A good one.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 3, 2021 10:44:31 GMT -7
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama is popping up on some mock drafts for us. But only Freak identified WR as a need for the Chargers, we don't believe him. So what gives. Freak was SO early to this once again. How does he do it ? I see what I see, and I know what I know. I dunno we've been talking about letting MW walk for awhile now and getting KA some real help... I wouldn't be upset with Waddle if other areas are properly addressed, but I'd still rather go after Smith Schuster. That devil MW really creates a problem. As I have already explained, he's not a WR2, sorry he's just not. But if he leaves it creates ANOTHER hole towards the top of our WR Corp. My initial thought was go get a really good WR and force MW to play up into the WR3, because there is real crap playing behind him. The trouble is he is now due his "big" contract. I am going to give you insight right now that no one else on here will. Not Joe McRugmoderator, not Goalies, no one. Keep this under your cap: For you MW negotiations followers----don't be surprised if TT really tries to make something happen. TT and Company spent an early first round pick on MW. That is really hard for them to walk away from. Its a failure that they don't want to admit to. If they can keep him at reasonable money, they will. It would not shock me if they let him test the open market and then bring him back home. Me ? I would let him go. FA Schuster or Corey Davis. Then spent a second round on a WR. OT-1st WR-2nd CB-3rd RB-our other 3rd round pick Center-4th
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Post by sonorajim on Mar 3, 2021 11:36:02 GMT -7
Pipkins will be a good value for a 2019 3rd if he's decent swing tackle depth. Top OTs are rare after the 1st. The coaches are going to use some hold overs OL.
Staley's influence supposedly will be productive intercommunication between different level coaches & the players. (And the draft team) Get our individuals doing what they do best for the team.
Your comment about 'hold over OL' has me wondering what the mindset is with the Bolt leadership. We clearly have very little information to form much of an opinion on where Staley and staff stand on any of the OL players on roster. We can look at contracts, and cost of walking away, and get an idea about possible moves in that sense. TT has certainly made comments about OL focus, and those comments imply changes coming. My question to all of you is two fold: Which currently rostered OL players make the Opening night roster? How many new OL players (FA and Draft) make the opening night roster? Good question!  Take out the FAs, RFA, ERFA and reserve we have Quis, Turner, Bulaga, Norton, Pipkins and Tevi under contract. I'd cut Turner. That leaves 1 starter, RT Bulaga and 4 potential backups. My current thought is #13 at LT, FA Corey Linsley at C, RT Bulaga. I expect strong competition for OG to include FA, draft, UDFA. 4 new starters. Bulaga is back. We keep at least 1 of Tevi, Pipkins, Norton as swing OT depth. Maybe give Tevi a look at OG.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 3, 2021 11:53:32 GMT -7
Your comment about 'hold over OL' has me wondering what the mindset is with the Bolt leadership. We clearly have very little information to form much of an opinion on where Staley and staff stand on any of the OL players on roster. We can look at contracts, and cost of walking away, and get an idea about possible moves in that sense. TT has certainly made comments about OL focus, and those comments imply changes coming. My question to all of you is two fold: Which currently rostered OL players make the Opening night roster? How many new OL players (FA and Draft) make the opening night roster? Those are impossible questions right now...........Bulaga is not going anywhere. His contract prevents that $$$ What about Guard Lamp ? He is an UFA. That can be an easy bye-bye. But wait. He played all 16 games last year with 1174 snaps !!!!!!! They have their work cut out figuring out that OL. No doubt about it.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 3, 2021 12:31:54 GMT -7
I dunno we've been talking about letting MW walk for awhile now and getting KA some real help... I wouldn't be upset with Waddle if other areas are properly addressed, but I'd still rather go after Smith Schuster. That devil MW really creates a problem. As I have already explained, he's not a WR2, sorry he's just not. But if he leaves it creates ANOTHER hole towards the top of our WR Corp. My initial thought was go get a really good WR and force MW to play up into the WR3, because there is real crap playing behind him. The trouble is he is now due his "big" contract. I am going to give you insight right now that no one else on here will. Not Joe McRugmoderator, not Goalies, no one. Keep this under your cap: For you MW negotiations followers----don't be surprised if TT really tries to make something happen. TT and Company spent an early first round pick on MW. That is really hard for them to walk away from. Its a failure that they don't want to admit to. If they can keep him at reasonable money, they will. It would not shock me if they let him test the open market and then bring him back home. Me ? I would let him go. FA Schuster or Corey Davis. Then spent a second round on a WR. OT-1st WR-2nd CB-3rd RB-our other 3rd round pick Center-4th Agree with this 100% I'd be curious if a quality 1st round grade CB falls in the 2nd and grab him there, then take Wr/Rb with those 3rds. But either way, I think it would be a good move. This is also saying Joe Reed and Joshua Kelley were bad picks, which I think they were.... But of course give them more time.
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Take out the FAs, RFA, ERFA and reserve we have Quis, Turner, Bulaga, Norton, Pipkins and Tevi under contract. I'd cut Turner. That leaves 1 starter, RT Bulaga and 4 potential backups. My current thought is #13 at LT, FA Corey Linsley at C, RT Bulaga.