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Post by thannah40 on Dec 1, 2020 23:18:57 GMT -7
MGIII is no longer on the team and that was a dumpster fire that didn't have to happen. I don't fault TT 100% for the MGIII drama, but if they wanted him they would have found a way and not let it get to the point it did. Now we need RB depth and we don't have it... MGIII is not doing so bad in Denver... Herbert is a rookie and was an obvious pick if QB was their priority... Defending TT based off Herbert is reaching big time. We're talking history here... TT's history is shaky at best. But I agree with you guys, there are def worse options out there and we do have a somewhat talented team. Coaching is the real issue and always has been. Spare me the MG revisionist history.....MG was offered 10 mil/yr, passed on it. TT recognized the need, was willing to over pay, but was rebuffed. Drafting has always been somewhat suspect when talking Bolts. To me, it felt as if there were two separate strategies being employed simultaneously, almost a competing visions. I ascribe this to having J Spanos in the mix, and a GM in TT.....cannot prove it, but suspect it. TT has done a very nice job overall, and there is little to justify his firing other than a seeking change for the sake of change. I just do not see that happening. Coaching is a really big issue, and that should get addressed by season conclusion. Fixing the OL is the challenge, and a very difficult challenge apparently. For me, maybe it’s “change for the sake of change”. 8 years is long enough, IMO. A coach gets less than that, but TT is allowed more? I still say he hasn’t addressed the problem that’s been this teams glaring hole since LT left, offense line. Ours is a patchwork every year. Same at interior defense. Maybe it’s just all of the losing and disappointment that comes with my 40+ years as a Bolts fan. Frustrated. Back to my original question though, is there a young up and coming GM out there? You hear about those scenarios with coaches, what about GMs? If AL and Gus get the axe, TT should go too - JMO
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 2, 2020 0:09:29 GMT -7
Doing something for the sake of doing something is irrational. Sometimes doing something is worse than doing nothing.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 2, 2020 2:54:49 GMT -7
Spare me the MG revisionist history.....MG was offered 10 mil/yr, passed on it. TT recognized the need, was willing to over pay, but was rebuffed. Drafting has always been somewhat suspect when talking Bolts. To me, it felt as if there were two separate strategies being employed simultaneously, almost a competing visions. I ascribe this to having J Spanos in the mix, and a GM in TT.....cannot prove it, but suspect it. TT has done a very nice job overall, and there is little to justify his firing other than a seeking change for the sake of change. I just do not see that happening. Coaching is a really big issue, and that should get addressed by season conclusion. Fixing the OL is the challenge, and a very difficult challenge apparently. I'll spare you the MG "revisionist" history if you spare me your J Spanos conspiracy theories... Nominated POTD
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 2, 2020 2:58:54 GMT -7
Justin Herbert. MGIII. Bosa. We can't rule on Tillery and Murray yet. Derwin James getting hurt isn't on Telesco. LOL MGIII is no longer on the team and that was a dumpster fire that didn't have to happen. I don't fault TT 100% for the MGIII drama, but if they wanted him they would have found a way and not let it get to the point it did. Now we need RB depth and we don't have it... MGIII is not doing so bad in Denver... Herbert is a rookie and was an obvious pick if QB was their priority... Defending TT based off Herbert is reaching big time.
We're talking history here... TT's history is shaky at best. But I agree with you guys, there are def worse options out there and we do have a somewhat talented team. Coaching is the real issue and always has been. Slow down now. You are angry, which I actually feed off of. Its ok. I want you to listen and trust me 100% here. Its a great way for you to learn about the NFL. No matter how I try, frozen won't learn from me: Drafting a bad starting QB has fired many a GM. Drafting successfully a franchise QB therefore saves many a GM. Trust your Highness.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 2, 2020 7:32:34 GMT -7
MGIII is no longer on the team and that was a dumpster fire that didn't have to happen. I don't fault TT 100% for the MGIII drama, but if they wanted him they would have found a way and not let it get to the point it did. Now we need RB depth and we don't have it... MGIII is not doing so bad in Denver... Herbert is a rookie and was an obvious pick if QB was their priority... Defending TT based off Herbert is reaching big time.
We're talking history here... TT's history is shaky at best. But I agree with you guys, there are def worse options out there and we do have a somewhat talented team. Coaching is the real issue and always has been. Slow down now. You are angry, which I actually feed off of. Its ok. I want you to listen and trust me 100% here. Its a great way for you to learn about the NFL. No matter how I try, frozen won't learn from me: Drafting a bad starting QB has fired many a GM. Drafting successfully a franchise QB therefore saves many a GM. Trust your Highness. Each team that drafted one of the top 3 QB's this year got extremely lucky. Like you said, drafting a successful QB can save a GM, not disputing TT's job security. With a couple exceptions, TT has been a mediocre GM, our draft history shows it and the shortcomings on the talent side also show it. We traded PR's huge contract for another one in Bosa... Lets see what TT can do before Herbert becomes the highest paid QB in the league.... I'm so not looking forward to that bridge...
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 2, 2020 7:41:43 GMT -7
Slow down now. You are angry, which I actually feed off of. Its ok. I want you to listen and trust me 100% here. Its a great way for you to learn about the NFL. No matter how I try, frozen won't learn from me: Drafting a bad starting QB has fired many a GM. Drafting successfully a franchise QB therefore saves many a GM. Trust your Highness. Each team that drafted one of the top 3 QB's this year got extremely lucky. Like you said, drafting a successful QB can save a GM, not disputing TT's job security. With a couple exceptions, TT has been a mediocre GM, our draft history shows it and the shortcomings on the talent side also show it. We traded PR's huge contract for another one in Bosa... Lets see what TT can do before Herbert becomes the highest paid QB in the league.... I'm so not looking forward to that bridge... Whatever the club does in the next few years in FA signings, they best keep in mind that expensive QB contract you mention.
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