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Post by ohioboltfan on Mar 19, 2021 7:32:39 GMT -7
I'm not a college football or draft expert but occasionally my news feed hits on someone that I get super intrigued with. The latest example of this (Pitts was the first this year) is Teven Jenkins, Offensive Tackle from Oklahoma State.
Has anyone else seen this guy? Thoughts?
Looks like he started out out as a late 2nd rounder but has now climbed into the first round of mock drafts.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 19, 2021 8:05:40 GMT -7
I'm not a college football or draft expert but occasionally my news feed hits on someone that I get super intrigued with. The latest example of this ( Pitts was the first this year) is Teven Jenkins, Offensive Tackle from Oklahoma State. Has anyone else seen this guy? Thoughts? Looks like he started out out as a late 2nd rounder but has now climbed into the first round of mock drafts. YouTube clip: He has been on my OT radar for a good bit, with the hope he would be a great 2nd round pick by TT. Sadly, as you have noted, he is getting plenty of attention and could end up going 1st round. They cannot all go in round one, so fingers crossed on him still.
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 22, 2021 6:20:02 GMT -7
This mock brings up a good point and one that I have been thinking about... Likely none of the top OT candidates will be left on the board @ 13. Too many teams ahead of us have let go of oline talent, besides we have likely addressed the oline for the season. So it does leave the window open for a great player at other positions we still need filled... www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierlein-2021-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-how-does-the-first-wave-of-free-agency-imI'll take our pick of edge or secondary help. I'd honestly be annoyed with a WR in the first and just don't see it. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 22, 2021 6:27:45 GMT -7
This mock brings up a good point and one that I have been thinking about... Likely none of the top OT candidates will be left on the board @ 13. Too many teams ahead of us have let go of oline talent, besides we have likely addressed the oline for the season. So it does leave the window open for a great player at other positions we still need filled... www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierlein-2021-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-how-does-the-first-wave-of-free-agency-imI'll take our pick of edge or secondary help. I'd honestly be annoyed with a WR in the first and just don't see it. If Alabama's Devonta Smith dropped to 13, you don't see it ? I've seen mocks where his teammate Waddle should land right around 13.............. REACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 22, 2021 6:29:20 GMT -7
Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech
Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama
We could be staring at both of those names on the board at #13 !!!
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 22, 2021 7:35:55 GMT -7
This mock brings up a good point and one that I have been thinking about... Likely none of the top OT candidates will be left on the board @ 13. Too many teams ahead of us have let go of oline talent, besides we have likely addressed the oline for the season. So it does leave the window open for a great player at other positions we still need filled... www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierlein-2021-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-how-does-the-first-wave-of-free-agency-imI'll take our pick of edge or secondary help. I'd honestly be annoyed with a WR in the first and just don't see it. If there is any type of run on QB's, throw in some OL and WR's, the talent still on the board will be very strong. If Sewell and Slater are gone, I would hope TT doesn't reach in picking Darrisaw, passing on what I view as much better talent. Take that CB, or Edge, or ILB, or.......
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Post by ohioboltfan on Mar 22, 2021 14:25:41 GMT -7
I'm not a college football or draft expert but occasionally my news feed hits on someone that I get super intrigued with. The latest example of this ( Pitts was the first this year) is Teven Jenkins, Offensive Tackle from Oklahoma State. Has anyone else seen this guy? Thoughts? Looks like he started out out as a late 2nd rounder but has now climbed into the first round of mock drafts. YouTube clip: He has been on my OT radar for a good bit, with the hope he would be a great 2nd round pick by TT. Sadly, as you have noted, he is getting plenty of attention and could end up going 1st round. They cannot all go in round one, so fingers crossed on him still. FWIW, in all the mock drafts I've seen this week- yes, all three of them!- Teven Jenkins was in the mid to late first round! I never heard of him a few days ago and now he's risen into unreachable territory for us. And Pitts is long gone before the mock drafts hit double digits, so he's highly unlikely to fall to us. Last and least likely, a lot of mocks have us trading back to around 20. I don't see TT trading back. I'm not against it, but it's not his style.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 22, 2021 15:51:30 GMT -7
He has been on my OT radar for a good bit, with the hope he would be a great 2nd round pick by TT. Sadly, as you have noted, he is getting plenty of attention and could end up going 1st round. They cannot all go in round one, so fingers crossed on him still. FWIW, in all the mock drafts I've seen this week- yes, all three of them!- Teven Jenkins was in the mid to late first round! I never heard of him a few days ago and now he's risen into unreachable territory for us. And Pitts is long gone before the mock drafts hit double digits, so he's highly unlikely to fall to us. Last and least likely, a lot of mocks have us trading back to around 20. I don't see TT trading back. I'm not against it, but it's not his style. There will be risers, and fallers, but in the end only 32 will be picked in round one. I have hope that Jenkins is a middle round 2 type. Pitts will never reach double digits, he has just too much talent. I would love a trade down......pick up an extra 3rd and draft Darrisaw as the new LOT. I agree it is not TT's norm though.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 23, 2021 2:16:37 GMT -7
FWIW, in all the mock drafts I've seen this week- yes, all three of them!- Teven Jenkins was in the mid to late first round! I never heard of him a few days ago and now he's risen into unreachable territory for us. And Pitts is long gone before the mock drafts hit double digits, so he's highly unlikely to fall to us. Last and least likely, a lot of mocks have us trading back to around 20. I don't see TT trading back. I'm not against it, but it's not his style. There will be risers, and fallers, but in the end only 32 will be picked in round one. I have hope that Jenkins is a middle round 2 type. Pitts will never reach double digits, he has just too much talent. I would love a trade down......pick up an extra 3rd and draft Darrisaw as the new LOT. I agree it is not TT's norm though. The sweet spot for that trade back would be about pick 16 through 19 in draft value. You are welcome.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 23, 2021 9:08:59 GMT -7
This mock brings up a good point and one that I have been thinking about... Likely none of the top OT candidates will be left on the board @ 13. Too many teams ahead of us have let go of oline talent, besides we have likely addressed the oline for the season. So it does leave the window open for a great player at other positions we still need filled... www.nfl.com/news/lance-zierlein-2021-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-how-does-the-first-wave-of-free-agency-imI'll take our pick of edge or secondary help. I'd honestly be annoyed with a WR in the first and just don't see it. If Alabama's Devonta Smith dropped to 13, you don't see it ? I've seen mocks where his teammate Waddle should land right around 13.............. REACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I typed the above yesterday..........Today,,,,, I saw a mock list of various people online. The Bama WR's are starting to populate for the Chargers.......... Devonta Smith is an absolute beast that I do not think will be there at #13. But Waddle is really good too. REACT
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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2021 19:42:18 GMT -7
1. Azeez Ojulari Still a great pick2. Jay Tufele Early but needed 4i traits.3. Hunter Long TE no longer PON.3b. Brady Christensen Still a great pick--good scheme fit--OG ?4. Chase Lucas '22 Draft ! Sub Ambrey Thomas No !5. Tyler Vrabel '22 Draft ? Sub David Moore No !6. James Empey Out of 2021 draft.6b. Master Teague III Out of 2021 draft.7. JaCoby Stevens OK. ST and NDB depth.v1 
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 25, 2021 6:06:05 GMT -7
1. Azeez Ojulari Still a great pick2. Jay Tufele Early but needed 4i traits.3. Hunter Long TE no longer PON.3b. Brady Christensen Still a great pick--good scheme fit--OG ?4. Chase Lucas '22 Draft ! Sub Ambrey Thomas No !5. Tyler Vrabel '22 Draft ? Sub David Moore No !6. James Empey Out of 2021 draft.6b. Master Teague III Out of 2021 draft.7. JaCoby Stevens OK. ST and NDB depth.v1 I wouldn't be salty with Azeez Ojulari, but it depends on who is still on the board.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Mar 25, 2021 15:11:49 GMT -7
It must've been in another thread, but someone asked about our first round cluster of players for pick 13. Here's what I'm thinking: 1) Ruling out ALL quarterbacks no matter how highly ranked they are pre-draft because duh. 2) Ruling out ALL running backs because just not worth a high first round pick (specific to us/compared to greater PON) I guess most other positions are in play so based on rankings or first-round grades these are the players I personally like (and there's some players ranked high but NOT on my list because I don't like them)- - Penei Sewell- If we had the #1 pick this year, I would take Sewell.
- Kyle Pitts- The best receiving threat in the draft and a generational talent. Instant mis-match, and could pair with Herbert for a decade of abusing defenses.
- Rashawn Slater- Didn't Jeremiah rate Slater as better prospect than Sewell? I may not agree, but that says a lot about Slater. And not as a Guard but as the Left Tackle, obvs.
- Ja'Marr Chase- He looks to me like the next Julio Jones. I'm not necessarily a fan of drafting a WR too high (thanks Mike Williams) but Chase is best in class.
- Patrick Surtain-
- Jaycee Horn- I'm not sure which of these three DBs is better, but opting out of the season AND having surgery a few days ago puts Farley third in my book. Being the son of Joe Horn is a huge plus to me, but Surtain seems like the legit #1.
- Caleb Farley-
- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah- Yes, I have him above Micah Parsons, the consensus best LB in this draft. Why? Because you can't teach SPEED!
- Christian Darrisaw- Because Left Tackle is (currently) our biggest PON.
- Micah Parsons- Very highly rated LB... a position we can't seem to have enough of during a season.
- Teven Jenkins- He has the temperament of my mother-in-law so I know he'll bring a coveted nastiness to the O-line.
- Gregory Rousseau- Freakish size and athleticism, but not much experience makes this a real risk-reward pick.
- Azeez Ojulari- If Woodeye has this guy at the top of his list, that's good enough for me!
I made a cluster (list) of 13 players in the order I'd take them. 13 because that's where we pick and at least one of them has to be there.
I know several at the top of my list are super unlikely to be there at 13 so don't waste a reply to say something like "Sewell won't fall to 13"... I know. But he's still at the top of my list. And maybe, just maybe, we trade up for once??
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 25, 2021 16:05:06 GMT -7
It must've been in another thread, but someone asked about our first round cluster of players for pick 13. Here's what I'm thinking: 1) Ruling out ALL quarterbacks no matter how highly ranked they are pre-draft because duh. 2) Ruling out ALL running backs because just not worth a high first round pick (specific to us/compared to greater PON) I guess most other positions are in play so based on rankings or first-round grades these are the players I personally like (and there's some players ranked high but NOT on my list because I don't like them)- - Penei Sewell- If we had the #1 pick this year, I would take Sewell.
- Kyle Pitts- The best receiving threat in the draft and a generational talent. Instant mis-match, and could pair with Herbert for a decade of abusing defenses.
- Rashawn Slater- Didn't Jeremiah rate Slater as better prospect than Sewell? I may not agree, but that says a lot about Slater. And not as a Guard but as the Left Tackle, obvs.
- Ja'Marr Chase- He looks to me like the next Julio Jones. I'm not necessarily a fan of drafting a WR too high (thanks Mike Williams) but Chase is best in class.
- Patrick Surtain-
- Jaycee Horn- I'm not sure which of these three DBs is better, but opting out of the season AND having surgery a few days ago puts Farley third in my book. Being the son of Joe Horn is a huge plus to me, but Surtain seems like the legit #1.
- Caleb Farley-
- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah- Yes, I have him above Micah Parsons, the consensus best LB in this draft. Why? Because you can't teach SPEED!
- Christian Darrisaw- Because Left Tackle is (currently) our biggest PON.
- Micah Parsons- Very highly rated LB... a position we can't seem to have enough of during a season.
- Teven Jenkins- He has the temperament of my mother-in-law so I know he'll bring a coveted nastiness to the O-line.
- Gregory Rousseau- Freakish size and athleticism, but not much experience makes this a real risk-reward pick.
- Azeez Ojulari- If Woodeye has this guy at the top of his list, that's good enough for me!
I made a cluster (list) of 13 players in the order I'd take them. 13 because that's where we pick and at least one of them has to be there.
I know several at the top of my list are super unlikely to be there at 13 so don't waste a reply to say something like "Sewell won't fall to 13"... I know. But he's still at the top of my list. And maybe, just maybe, we trade up for once??
Yes
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Post by woodeye on Mar 25, 2021 19:21:12 GMT -7
Hello everyone.
To clarify, hot magenta was to have another look at whether my ideas from early January held up. This was before FA and before gaining better understanding of Staley's concepts.
We now have Fackrell w/Nwosu & Bosa. Ojulari will be a great pick for someone in the 20s. He has bend, surprising strength, explosion...great traits.
Oline developments shock me (I must adjust and be pleasantly surprised) but that area has been stabilized. Now we can help OLT with TE/RB chipping.
I do not expect OL early in this draft ! I expect LAC to go DB early and often !
Mid rounds, new, young OL MUST be introduced. Along with Pipkins, Norton, St. Louis, and Quessenberry, there should be two draftees. Here's the new crew for us to be eternally patient with as they slowly develop.
Have a great day all !
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