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Post by frozendisc on Feb 13, 2021 14:59:17 GMT -7
Not sure, but I guess it is the underlying tone of the "good riddance" comment that I feel is unfair. I was against the Pouncy signing from the start. That being said, the Bolts did get solid play from him....when he was not injured. They also got a very good example for their young OC's on exactly 'how' to play the position. I understand the frustration with the injuries, and the perception of how 'wrong' it was for Pouncy to take payment for his final year under contract, but that perception is misplaced. The club should not have signed Pouncy due to injury history, but chose to anyway, and that roll of the dice came up in favor of the player. The earning window is small for these players, as such, I simply cannot be upset with them for taking every dollar owed under the contract. There is a difference between being a skilled negotiator or earning a big contract and fleecing your team by the convenience of an injury... Is TT stupid for letting it happen? yes. Do I still think less of Pouncey? Absolutley... There is nothing unfair about it. Pouncy did not fleece the Bolts.....A contract was agreed to by both sides, with both sides well aware of the injury history. To imply it is dishonest to hold all involved in a contract to the specifics of the agreed upon contract is ridiculous. You are letting the fan in you influence your view of the business.
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Post by jwr10x on Feb 13, 2021 15:52:24 GMT -7
Not sure, but I guess it is the underlying tone of the "good riddance" comment that I feel is unfair. I was against the Pouncy signing from the start. That being said, the Bolts did get solid play from him....when he was not injured. They also got a very good example for their young OC's on exactly 'how' to play the position. I understand the frustration with the injuries, and the perception of how 'wrong' it was for Pouncy to take payment for his final year under contract, but that perception is misplaced. The club should not have signed Pouncy due to injury history, but chose to anyway, and that roll of the dice came up in favor of the player. The earning window is small for these players, as such, I simply cannot be upset with them for taking every dollar owed under the contract. There is a difference between being a skilled negotiator or earning a big contract and fleecing your team by the convenience of an injury... Is TT stupid for letting it happen? yes. Do I still think less of Pouncey? Absolutley... There is nothing unfair about it. I'm sorry but Pouncey did not fleece anybody. He signed the contract that was offered by the team. It is not his fault that the Charger front office never learned it's lesson after they resigned a lineman coming off a major injury in Hardwick.
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Post by moekid on Feb 13, 2021 17:03:18 GMT -7
There is a difference between being a skilled negotiator or earning a big contract and fleecing your team by the convenience of an injury... Is TT stupid for letting it happen? yes. Do I still think less of Pouncey? Absolutley... There is nothing unfair about it. Pouncy did not fleece the Bolts.....A contract was agreed to by both sides, with both sides well aware of the injury history. To imply it is dishonest to hold all involved in a contract to the specifics of the agreed upon contract is ridiculous. You are letting the fan in you influence your view of the business. Would your view change if Pouncey knew he wouldn’t play in 2020 when he offered the Chargers a “team friendly” extension? |
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Post by moekid on Feb 13, 2021 17:04:14 GMT -7
There is a difference between being a skilled negotiator or earning a big contract and fleecing your team by the convenience of an injury... Is TT stupid for letting it happen? yes. Do I still think less of Pouncey? Absolutley... There is nothing unfair about it. I'm sorry but Pouncey did not fleece anybody. He signed the contract that was offered by the team. It is not his fault that the Charger front office never learned it's lesson after they resigned a lineman coming off a major injury in Hardwick. The Chargers made a mistake for sure. I just wonder how much Pouncey knew and didn’t tell them |
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Post by jwr10x on Feb 13, 2021 17:48:37 GMT -7
I'm sorry but Pouncey did not fleece anybody. He signed the contract that was offered by the team. It is not his fault that the Charger front office never learned it's lesson after they resigned a lineman coming off a major injury in Hardwick. The Chargers made a mistake for sure. I just wonder how much Pouncey knew and didn’t tell them Then that is a condemnation of the Chargers Medical Staff
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Post by cthommes on Feb 13, 2021 18:09:33 GMT -7
The Chargers made a mistake for sure. I just wonder how much Pouncey knew and didn’t tell them Then that is a condemnation of the Chargers Medical Staff We can't condemn them, they did us a great service before our week 2 game. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 14, 2021 3:13:32 GMT -7
Not only funny, I could actually see JuJu tell them that. raiders are interested. link Of course they are. Mike Mayock is right underneath me in player evaluation. So I am telling you we can go big league with Schuster, Mike Freaking Mayock himself is telling you too. Do you NEED anything more ? Really really really need anything more ?? Listen. This board has debated me for years on different topics. Its been cute. I always win. But cute. If you trusted nothing else, you have learned to trust my player evaluations. You line up Keenan Freaking Allen on one side, and Schuster on the other, and Herbert at QB, you are playing with fire that defenses cannot deal with. Book it. Book Freak. Book Mayock.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 14, 2021 3:26:25 GMT -7
Mike Pouncey... Good riddance... Not sure, but I guess it is the underlying tone of the "good riddance" comment that I feel is unfair. I was against the Pouncy signing from the start. That being said, the Bolts did get solid play from him....when he was not injured. They also got a very good example for their young OC's on exactly 'how' to play the position. I understand the frustration with the injuries, and the perception of how 'wrong' it was for Pouncy to take payment for his final year under contract, but that perception is misplaced. The club should not have signed Pouncy due to injury history, but chose to anyway, and that roll of the dice came up in favor of the player. The earning window is small for these players, as such, I simply cannot be upset with them for taking every dollar owed under the contract. Great job defending a retired Charger !!!!! The Pouncey Twins have been tremendous. Not only talented with multiple Pro Bowls, they are both Captains of offensive lines. One or both have been team captains too. After their playoff loss this year Big Ben sat on the bench with Pouncey and cried. Not for himself, his best friend told him he was retiring and Ben wanted to win for him. I know for 2 years you have wanted a Center in the draft. BOTH Pouncey's were First Round draft picks. One is pretty good, both twins at the Center position going 1st Round is CRAZY.
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 14, 2021 5:55:11 GMT -7
Pouncey played 1 season and 5 games for us... Zero games last year. Yea, good riddance! He fleeced this team last year and TT is an idiot for letting it happen. Sorry not sorry, that's my take.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 14, 2021 8:55:50 GMT -7
Pouncy did not fleece the Bolts.....A contract was agreed to by both sides, with both sides well aware of the injury history. To imply it is dishonest to hold all involved in a contract to the specifics of the agreed upon contract is ridiculous. You are letting the fan in you influence your view of the business. Would your view change if Pouncey knew he wouldn’t play in 2020 when he offered the Chargers a “team friendly” extension? No....I firmly believe the onus is on both sides to know what they are agreeing to, and with whom. I would not have signed him in the first place because I did not trust the injury history. I sure as heck would not have extended him. The Bolts gambled because of need, and they lost. The need is now found across the entire OL, with two of them (Turner and Bulaga) injury magnets.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 14, 2021 9:04:10 GMT -7
Not sure, but I guess it is the underlying tone of the "good riddance" comment that I feel is unfair. I was against the Pouncy signing from the start. That being said, the Bolts did get solid play from him....when he was not injured. They also got a very good example for their young OC's on exactly 'how' to play the position. I understand the frustration with the injuries, and the perception of how 'wrong' it was for Pouncy to take payment for his final year under contract, but that perception is misplaced. The club should not have signed Pouncy due to injury history, but chose to anyway, and that roll of the dice came up in favor of the player. The earning window is small for these players, as such, I simply cannot be upset with them for taking every dollar owed under the contract. Great job defending a retired Charger !!!!! The Pouncey Twins have been tremendous. Not only talented with multiple Pro Bowls, they are both Captains of offensive lines. One or both have been team captains too. After their playoff loss this year Big Ben sat on the bench with Pouncey and cried. Not for himself, his best friend told him he was retiring and Ben wanted to win for him. I know for 2 years you have wanted a Center in the draft. BOTH Pouncey's were First Round draft picks. One is pretty good, both twins at the Center position going 1st Round is CRAZY. Really difficult to pass on a better talent in round 1 in order to take a lesser talent that fills an OL need, but TT is there at this point. Say Surtain, Parsons and Slater are all on the board when TT picks, hard to get mad at TT if he takes the CB or ILB, but the glaring need is the OT.
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Post by moekid on Feb 14, 2021 11:34:44 GMT -7
raiders are interested. linkOf course they are. Mike Mayock is right underneath me in player evaluation. So I am telling you we can go big league with Schuster, Mike Freaking Mayock himself is telling you too. Do you NEED anything more ? Really really really need anything more ?? Listen. This board has debated me for years on different topics. Its been cute. I always win. But cute. If you trusted nothing else, you have learned to trust my player evaluations. You line up Keenan Freaking Allen on one side, and Schuster on the other, and Herbert at QB, you are playing with fire that defenses cannot deal with. Book it. Book Freak. Book Mayock. Post reported for Mayock being right underneath you. The Raiders do like to gather WR’s. Ty Will didn’t work out. Maybe Juju will? I think you have a geographical bias about Juju |
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 15, 2021 1:34:06 GMT -7
Of course they are. Mike Mayock is right underneath me in player evaluation. So I am telling you we can go big league with Schuster, Mike Freaking Mayock himself is telling you too. Do you NEED anything more ? Really really really need anything more ?? Listen. This board has debated me for years on different topics. Its been cute. I always win. But cute. If you trusted nothing else, you have learned to trust my player evaluations. You line up Keenan Freaking Allen on one side, and Schuster on the other, and Herbert at QB, you are playing with fire that defenses cannot deal with. Book it. Book Freak. Book Mayock. Post reported for Mayock being right underneath you. The Raiders do like to gather WR’s. Ty Will didn’t work out. Maybe Juju will? I think you have a geographical bias about Juju Smith-Schuster is the holder of several NFL records, including being the youngest player ever to reach 2,500 career receiving yards and the first player to have two offensive touchdowns of at least 97 yards. That's not geograph. bias, that's wanting to win bias.
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