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Post by sdc on Aug 22, 2021 18:28:29 GMT -7
F-ing Bulaga His fat ass is still hurt? Will he play three games this year?What a joke Are you drunk posting? This worked up over a pre season game where no starters are playing isn’t healthy.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 22, 2021 21:23:23 GMT -7
Many of the forum members here were previously members of the now shut down Charger Message Board (CMB). I think I remember you and others from there. We had an off-topic section there that would accommodate such discussion as this. Unfortunately, this concept has not taken off here. I agree that those who visit this forum for strictly football-related discussion should not be spammed with off-topic stuff, but off-topic discussion should have its place somewhere. Indeed. I was once a member of the CMB (mainly a lurker, but occasional poster; I think that goes back to the early/mid 2000s). I’m all for off topic conversations in off topic spaces. There is an implicit social contract in forums in that we agree to respect the topic of the space, and also the thread. I understand that strictly regulating that would make for a boring and limited discussion that eventually would die. On the other hand, and I suspect others may feel similarly, I am growing weary from people opportunistically and aggressively beating the drum of their political-issue-or-viewpoint-du-jour in every conceivable space. For ****s’ sake. Well, that sums it up, you still think the vaccine is a political issue when it’s clearly a public safety issue. Hundreds of thousands of people are dead because they believed it was a political issue too. The rest of the dead were just swept up in the madness. BTW, the NFL websites are full of updates about team vaccination rates and the it’s been a huge sports story. The NFL has been very vocal about it. You almost can’t go more than a day or two without reading a football related story about the vaccine. Must be some kind of conspiracy right? You must wear the extra large tin foil hat. A couple of weeks ago I almost felt sorry for the coach and the owner of the vikings as they pleaded publicly for their players to pull their heads outta their collective assess and get vaccinated. I, like thousands of charger fans selfishly want our players to vaccinated so they wont miss games and hurt our chances of having a good season. I too wish it wasn’t the case, as I’d much prefer to stick to Xs and Os, but this vaccine is very much a relevant topic of conversation as it applies to our beloved chargers and every other sport team. And just wishing it wasn’t necessary to discuss it isn’t going to change the fact that the entire world has been profoundly affected by this virus not just our beloved sport. The virus doesn’t give a care about your politics, it’s here and we either use the weapons at our disposal to fight it or we die, simple as that.
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Post by lightsout42 on Aug 22, 2021 21:33:14 GMT -7
Indeed. I was once a member of the CMB (mainly a lurker, but occasional poster; I think that goes back to the early/mid 2000s). I’m all for off topic conversations in off topic spaces. There is an implicit social contract in forums in that we agree to respect the topic of the space, and also the thread. I understand that strictly regulating that would make for a boring and limited discussion that eventually would die. On the other hand, and I suspect others may feel similarly, I am growing weary from people opportunistically and aggressively beating the drum of their political-issue-or-viewpoint-du-jour in every conceivable space. For ****s’ sake. Well, that sums it up, you still think the vaccine is political issue when it’s clearly a public safety issue. Hundreds of thousands of people are dead because they believed it was a political issue too. The rest of the dead were just swept up in the madness. BTW, the NFL websites are full of updates about team vaccination rates and the it’s been a huge sports story. The NFL has been very vocal about it. You almost can’t go more than a day or two without reading a football related story about the vaccine. Must be some kind of conspiracy right? You must wear the extra large tin foil hat. A couple of weeks ago I almost felt sorry for the coach and the owner of the vikings as they pleaded publicly for their players to pull their heads outta their collective assess and get vaccinated. I, like thousands of charger fans selfishly want our players to vaccinate so they wont miss games and hurt our chances of having a god season. I wish it wasn’t the case, as I’d much prefer to stick to Xs and Os, but this vaccine is very much a relevant topic of conversation as it applies to our beloved chargers and every other sport team. And just wishing it wasn’t necessary to discuss it isn’t going to change the fact that the entire world has been profoundly affected by this virus. The virus doesn’t give a care about your politics, it’s here and we either use the weapons at our disposal to fight it or we die, simple as that. No, I didn’t share my views on the virus or vaccine at all. Please don’t misrepresent what I’ve said. My expressed view is that your posts on those subjects—which went far beyond what the NFL was saying—don’t add value to a football discussion and reduce the value of the forum and thread. There’s something like five active commenters here and I’m accordingly suggesting that we stick to the reason we’re here or there will soon be one fewer.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 22, 2021 21:48:17 GMT -7
Well, that sums it up, you still think the vaccine is political issue when it’s clearly a public safety issue. Hundreds of thousands of people are dead because they believed it was a political issue too. The rest of the dead were just swept up in the madness. BTW, the NFL websites are full of updates about team vaccination rates and the it’s been a huge sports story. The NFL has been very vocal about it. You almost can’t go more than a day or two without reading a football related story about the vaccine. Must be some kind of conspiracy right? You must wear the extra large tin foil hat. A couple of weeks ago I almost felt sorry for the coach and the owner of the vikings as they pleaded publicly for their players to pull their heads outta their collective assess and get vaccinated. I, like thousands of charger fans selfishly want our players to vaccinate so they wont miss games and hurt our chances of having a god season. I wish it wasn’t the case, as I’d much prefer to stick to Xs and Os, but this vaccine is very much a relevant topic of conversation as it applies to our beloved chargers and every other sport team. And just wishing it wasn’t necessary to discuss it isn’t going to change the fact that the entire world has been profoundly affected by this virus. The virus doesn’t give a care about your politics, it’s here and we either use the weapons at our disposal to fight it or we die, simple as that. No, I didn’t share my views on the virus or vaccine at all. Please don’t misrepresent what I’ve said. My expressed view is that your posts on those subjects—which went far beyond what the NFL was saying—don’t add value to a football discussion and reduce the value of the forum and thread. There’s something like five active commenters here and I’m accordingly suggesting that we stick to the reason we’re here or there will soon be one fewer. You don’t need to threaten me, I’ll stop posting before you ban me. I left the CMB a long time ago and life went on just fine. I left there for the same reason I’ll leave here, not enough actual football talk and too much immature nonsense. But like it or not the vaccine and covid ARE a football topic right now but ironically only because many players are still resistant to getting vaccinated, otherwise no one would need to talk about it at all
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 23, 2021 5:42:29 GMT -7
No, I didn’t share my views on the virus or vaccine at all. Please don’t misrepresent what I’ve said. My expressed view is that your posts on those subjects—which went far beyond what the NFL was saying—don’t add value to a football discussion and reduce the value of the forum and thread. There’s something like five active commenters here and I’m accordingly suggesting that we stick to the reason we’re here or there will soon be one fewer. You don’t need to threaten me, I’ll stop posting before you ban me. I left the CMB a long time ago and life went on just fine. I left there for the same reason I’ll leave here, not enough actual football talk and too much immature nonsense. But like it or not the vaccine and covid ARE a football topic right now but ironically only because many players are still resistant to getting vaccinated, otherwise no one would need to talk about it at all Ban you ? I'm not convinced he can ban himself on here. Please continue all vaccine talk. It amuses me and you are all here for my abusement. No fighting or wars ?? Does anyone think of MY amusement ? MY MY MY MY MY !!!!! that's why you are all here. Sheesh. Let's focus a little folks.
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Post by afboltfan on Aug 23, 2021 6:37:45 GMT -7
Yes. To be clear, my objection isn’t about your viewpoint; I am uninterested in your and others’ respective viewpoint. I commented on your post because it was uninteresting, not about football, and preachy. I come here for none of those things. I’m happy to apply that same standard to other posts, which I’ve tried to do in the past with others. If the forum owner(s) wants this space to be about more than the Chargers and related football discussions then I would respect that and be delighted to spend my time and attention somewhere else. Many of the forum members here were previously members of the now shut down Charger Message Board (CMB). I think I remember you and others from there. We had an off-topic section there that would accommodate such discussion as this. Unfortunately, this concept has not taken off here. I agree that those who visit this forum for strictly football-related discussion should not be spammed with off-topic stuff, but off-topic discussion should have its place somewhere. Well... technically... Its not really an off topic discussion. The original spark was talking about players not getting the vaccine. I agree though it is gas on the fire of what people "feel" about the issue.
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Post by afboltfan on Aug 23, 2021 6:42:10 GMT -7
No, I didn’t share my views on the virus or vaccine at all. Please don’t misrepresent what I’ve said. My expressed view is that your posts on those subjects—which went far beyond what the NFL was saying—don’t add value to a football discussion and reduce the value of the forum and thread. There’s something like five active commenters here and I’m accordingly suggesting that we stick to the reason we’re here or there will soon be one fewer. You don’t need to threaten me, I’ll stop posting before you ban me. I left the CMB a long time ago and life went on just fine. I left there for the same reason I’ll leave here, not enough actual football talk and too much immature nonsense. But like it or not the vaccine and covid ARE a football topic right now but ironically only because many players are still resistant to getting vaccinated, otherwise no one would need to talk about it at all You're 100% spot on with your second sentence... But as far as the bolded, if you remember the CMB then you remember basically everyone on here came from there and have (known) each other through the forums for years. Not sure of what immature nonsense you are referring to, but I think the only drama on this forum comes from vaccine talk. Besides... It is still the off-season, I wouldn't expect alot with no actual football going on. I hope you stay if you are thinking of leaving... You're a cool dude.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 23, 2021 6:52:53 GMT -7
You don’t need to threaten me, I’ll stop posting before you ban me. I left the CMB a long time ago and life went on just fine. I left there for the same reason I’ll leave here, not enough actual football talk and too much immature nonsense. But like it or not the vaccine and covid ARE a football topic right now but ironically only because many players are still resistant to getting vaccinated, otherwise no one would need to talk about it at all You're 100% spot on with your second sentence... But as far as the bolded, if you remember the CMB then you remember basically everyone on here came from there and have (known) each other through the forums for years. Not sure of what immature nonsense you are referring to, but I think the only drama on this forum comes from vaccine talk. Besides... It is still the off-season, I wouldn't expect alot with no actual football going on. I hope you stay if you are thinking of leaving... You're a cool dude. Me either.
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Post by sdc on Aug 23, 2021 7:11:53 GMT -7
You're 100% spot on with your second sentence... But as far as the bolded, if you remember the CMB then you remember basically everyone on here came from there and have (known) each other through the forums for years. Not sure of what immature nonsense you are referring to, but I think the only drama on this forum comes from vaccine talk. Besides... It is still the off-season, I wouldn't expect alot with no actual football going on. I hope you stay if you are thinking of leaving... You're a cool dude. Me either. He views any disagreement with his viewpoints as immaturity.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 23, 2021 7:16:12 GMT -7
He views any disagreement with his viewpoints as immaturity. But frozenpizza has always been that way...........................oh, you meant someone else.
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Post by sdc on Aug 23, 2021 7:19:49 GMT -7
He views any disagreement with his viewpoints as immaturity. But frozenpizza has always been that way...........................oh, you meant someone else. Frozenvertebrae and I have come to understand each other. Heck, I even agree with the potato farmer every now and again.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 23, 2021 9:46:03 GMT -7
He views any disagreement with his viewpoints as immaturity. On the contrary, when counter points are presented based on sound reasoning I take it as an opportunity to learn from others. It’s the resorting to insults and label when people don’t agree with you that gets old. Like being called a crack addict or whatever because I said we still needed more offensive line help even after drafting jaimes and slater. That’s were I draw the line, don’t resort to childish name calling and condescending remarks and instead post something that makes sense. the difference between me and you and others like you on here is that I don’t give a shit about losing an argument when some one that has a better POV teaches me something. But folks like you will resort to insults because you can’t counter points being made. You guys are too @#$&ing old to be acting like that when your shit doesn’t line up with reality.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Aug 23, 2021 9:56:16 GMT -7
Many of the forum members here were previously members of the now shut down Charger Message Board (CMB). I think I remember you and others from there. We had an off-topic section there that would accommodate such discussion as this. Unfortunately, this concept has not taken off here. I agree that those who visit this forum for strictly football-related discussion should not be spammed with off-topic stuff, but off-topic discussion should have its place somewhere. Well... technically... Its not really an off topic discussion. The original spark was talking about players not getting the vaccine. I agree though it is gas on the fire of what people "feel" about the issue. It’s not off topic, the whole NFL is affected by this and anyone that gives a rip about having an uninterrupted season with a full compliment competitive games should be pissed that many of these players and coaches refuse to listen to reason.
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Post by afboltfan on Aug 23, 2021 11:25:49 GMT -7
Well... technically... Its not really an off topic discussion. The original spark was talking about players not getting the vaccine. I agree though it is gas on the fire of what people "feel" about the issue. It’s not off topic, the whole NFL is affected by this and anyone that gives a rip about having an uninterrupted season with a full compliment competitive games should be pissed that many of these players and coaches refuse to listen to reason. I think they should all get it, but also respect their right to decline. Especially now that its FDA approved there is one less excuse... I'm just not comfortable with taking away someone's right to choose.
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Post by sdc on Aug 23, 2021 11:31:49 GMT -7
He views any disagreement with his viewpoints as immaturity. the difference between me and you and others like you on here is that I don’t give a shit about losing an argument when some one that has a better POV teaches me something. But folks like you will resort to insults because you can’t counter points being made. You guys are too @#$&ing old to be acting like that when your shit doesn’t line up with reality. I'm sure that there are many more differences than that. Most in here don't insult. Most have a sense of humor. Most don't take this shit seriously. And most understand that we are all equally useless in the bigger Charger picture. A few, myself included, enjoy the occasional condescending comment. I can counter points just fine. From my perspective, the issue is mostly on your side. You seem unable to distinguish opinion from fact. And you have a lot of opinions, some good and some suspect. I can't speak for others, but the law of diminishing returns comes into play when having a debate with you. For example, to me the much clearer comp for Josh Palmer is Keenan McCardell than Tony Martin. I didn't mention it because I was disinterested in whatever diatribe of a response that you would counter with to demonstrate how knowledgeable you were and high ignorant I was. Another example is the Sean McVay butt pucker trade for Matthew Stafford as a direct result of Justin Herbert. I tried to be nice in my response but you doubled down. That in and of itself is completely absurd on so many levels. Fact: The NFC West is by far the best division in the NFL. No one can sit pat. Fact: Jared Goff's demise in LA started well before Hebert was a Charger. Fact: Adding an aging Stafford to your team isn't exactly a splashy (Tim Tebow to the Jags) move. Fact: Kreonke, McVay, et al. have always been forward thinking risk takers, not knee jerk reactionary thinkers. Fact- Everything COVID related is political. It's like global warming. The science is the science. Our media and politicians choose to make it political and want people to make a choice based on affiliations. Science and politics are not mutually exclusive. I haven't weighed in because I have enough self awareness to understand that I have neither the training nor experience to speak on it as an expert. One thing we have too many of is ignorant people with loud firmly held opinions. At the end of the day I hope you stick around. You have a lot of good additions. I guess what you come here for is different than what I come here for. I appreciate the banter. I want to be called out if I post something stupid. I don't pretend to have the answers that people that get paid millions of dollars and spent countless hours with 1000x the data than I have, struggle to make. To each his own. For me the timeless words of the Hornblower ring truer today that ever before. We are all equally useless.
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