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Post by frozendisc on Apr 10, 2022 10:01:47 GMT -7
I don't see the Chargers as 'one player away', and really do not see that 'one player away' in this draft, so moving up just hurts the roster build. Inversely moving down would add picks, and hopefully successful picks, helping the roster build. In my view, big needs are ROT and ILB.....is there a starting level talent at one of these positions there when the Chargers go on the clock? We are literally one player away... At what position is debatable. Would you have said the Bengals were just one player away last year? Hint* they were. The starting group is good to very good, with 2-3 weak spots. The depth has good and bad, typical of depth, but I see more below average than above. Any club can get hot, heck we did it last year in NHL, but the NFL season is long and violent......requiring really good depth. I am curious....you have the #1 pick, what is that 'one player away' you are taking?
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 10, 2022 10:09:48 GMT -7
I don't see the Chargers as 'one player away', and really do not see that 'one player away' in this draft, so moving up just hurts the roster build. Inversely moving down would add picks, and hopefully successful picks, helping the roster build. In my view, big needs are ROT and ILB.....is there a starting level talent at one of these positions there when the Chargers go on the clock? We are literally one player away... At what position is debatable. Would you have said the Bengals were just one player away last year? Hint* they were. Good post. Great example with the striped kittens |
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 10, 2022 10:15:11 GMT -7
I would not move up.......I would move down if the return was there. My guess is they stay at 17 and take BPA based off their rankings. safe bet. Though it is possible, if the bolts see a player they really want, and he drops further down then they expected, I can see them making that move up. I'm a a bit more of a fan of moving down, esp when the talent is deep across a number of areas, but with all the FA signings staying at 17 is most probable Cross is one we have to watch for trading and Staley is up the LSU cornerbacks ass, and I’m not even kidding. He’s a talented CB. Our secondary would be unbelievable. |
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Post by totallybolted on Apr 10, 2022 14:15:32 GMT -7
safe bet. Though it is possible, if the bolts see a player they really want, and he drops further down then they expected, I can see them making that move up. I'm a a bit more of a fan of moving down, esp when the talent is deep across a number of areas, but with all the FA signings staying at 17 is most probable Cross is one we have to watch for trading and Staley is up the LSU cornerbacks ass, and I’m not even kidding. He’s a talented CB. Our secondary would be unbelievable. my concern with that is I don't care how good they are, if the QB has time to throw, every receiver at that level will get open at some point. With the addition of Mack, "time" I hope is reduced significantly. To my point, BPA needs to be adjusted with PON.
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 10, 2022 15:47:47 GMT -7
We are literally one player away... At what position is debatable. Would you have said the Bengals were just one player away last year? Hint* they were. The starting group is good to very good, with 2-3 weak spots. The depth has good and bad, typical of depth, but I see more below average than above. Any club can get hot, heck we did it last year in NHL, but the NFL season is long and violent......requiring really good depth. I am curious....you have the #1 pick, what is that 'one player away' you are taking? My board has not changed really. I'm taking Penning in the 1st and a RB in the 3rd, if Penning is gone RT is still my priority but it depends on who is there. Otherwise I go BPA.
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 10, 2022 15:49:16 GMT -7
Cross is one we have to watch for trading and Staley is up the LSU cornerbacks ass, and I’m not even kidding. He’s a talented CB. Our secondary would be unbelievable. With the addition of Mack, "time" I hope is reduced significantly. To my point, BPA needs to be adjusted with PON. 100% agree... Ramsey proved that last year in the PO's and Superbowl. I think our secondary is good enough, I'd rather not go CB in the first.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Apr 10, 2022 16:10:00 GMT -7
The draft is now only about two weeks away! Here's some thoughts as of today and subject to change daily before April 28th.
We are in a good place in that we aren't pigeon-holed into a position we MUST draft, like a Right Tackle or Line Backer. Those are probably the two weakest positions on the team, but if there's not a STUD player at those positions at 17 we can pivot elsewhere. And I, for one, am not sold on Penning coming from a small school, or even Cross transitioning from Left to Right Tackle. I wouldn't complain if either was our pick, but neither would I feel like we solved the last of our problems.
I'm really leaning to taking whomever is there at 17 that is the most freakish or best at his position this year- such as Jameson Williams who would be the best WR if it weren't for his injury. Or Stingley who should be the #1 CB but there may be hesitation now due to his injury and other concerns.
I'd be OK taking Jordan Davis as a freak big guy, but he may not have any other advantages besides his size. Is that enough of a factor to take at 17? I wouldn't hate it, but I don't think he'd be the BEST player available at 17.
I've heard this is actually a very talented draft class- except for QBs, which we do not need! Maybe RB is a weak group, too. In fact some of the positions that are deep in this draft seem to be ones we are likely to draft- WR, o-line, edge rushers.
Because of that, a trade down for a later first and getting a second, might be ideal. But it's so hard to predict a trade- especially when you want one.
As it stands now, I'd like to get Stingley or Hamilton but I seriously doubt they drop. Jameson Williams is on my short list, and he might be gone also. Sauce Gardner, Trent McDuffie, Nakobe Dean, and Devin Lloyd would be my defensive list. Not sure of Davis or any edge rushers at 17. On the offensive side, there are several WRs going in first round mocks but I could take or leave any of them. There's the top three tackles- unlikely to be there at 17- and there's Penning, Green, Johnson and maybe a few other next tier offensive linemen that, again, I'd be OK if the Chargers took but I couldn't get excited about.
Am I the only one that feels like this year is unlike any we've had as Charger fans heading into the draft? Is there any first-round prospect this year you are dreaming of the Chargers taking to complete or upgrade our team?
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Post by Northern Ca Boy on Apr 10, 2022 18:03:13 GMT -7
The draft is now only about two weeks away! Here's some thoughts as of today and subject to change daily before April 28th. We are in a good place in that we aren't pigeon-holed into a position we MUST draft, like a Right Tackle or Line Backer. Those are probably the two weakest positions on the team, but if there's not a STUD player at those positions at 17 we can pivot elsewhere. And I, for one, am not sold on Penning coming from a small school, or even Cross transitioning from Left to Right Tackle. I wouldn't complain if either was our pick, but neither would I feel like we solved the last of our problems. I'm really leaning to taking whomever is there at 17 that is the most freakish or best at his position this year- such as Jameson Williams who would be the best WR if it weren't for his injury. Or Stingley who should be the #1 CB but there may be hesitation now due to his injury and other concerns. I'd be OK taking Jordan Davis as a freak big guy, but he may not have any other advantages besides his size. Is that enough of a factor to take at 17? I wouldn't hate it, but I don't think he'd be the BEST player available at 17. I've heard this is actually a very talented draft class- except for QBs, which we do not need! Maybe RB is a weak group, too. In fact some of the positions that are deep in this draft seem to be ones we are likely to draft- WR, o-line, edge rushers. Because of that, a trade down for a later first and getting a second, might be ideal. But it's so hard to predict a trade- especially when you want one. As it stands now, I'd like to get Stingley or Hamilton but I seriously doubt they drop. Jameson Williams is on my short list, and he might be gone also. Sauce Gardner, Trent McDuffie, Nakobe Dean, and Devin Lloyd would be my defensive list. Not sure of Davis or any edge rushers at 17. On the offensive side, there are several WRs going in first round mocks but I could take or leave any of them. There's the top three tackles- unlikely to be there at 17- and there's Penning, Green, Johnson and maybe a few other next tier offensive linemen that, again, I'd be OK if the Chargers took but I couldn't get excited about. Am I the only one that feels like this year is unlike any we've had as Charger fans heading into the draft? Is there any first-round prospect this year you are dreaming of the Chargers taking to complete or upgrade our team? |
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 10, 2022 19:41:37 GMT -7
The draft is now only about two weeks away! Here's some thoughts as of today and subject to change daily before April 28th. We are in a good place in that we aren't pigeon-holed into a position we MUST draft, like a Right Tackle or Line Backer. Those are probably the two weakest positions on the team, but if there's not a STUD player at those positions at 17 we can pivot elsewhere. And I, for one, am not sold on Penning coming from a small school, or even Cross transitioning from Left to Right Tackle. I wouldn't complain if either was our pick, but neither would I feel like we solved the last of our problems. I'm really leaning to taking whomever is there at 17 that is the most freakish or best at his position this year- such as Jameson Williams who would be the best WR if it weren't for his injury. Or Stingley who should be the #1 CB but there may be hesitation now due to his injury and other concerns. I'd be OK taking Jordan Davis as a freak big guy, but he may not have any other advantages besides his size. Is that enough of a factor to take at 17? I wouldn't hate it, but I don't think he'd be the BEST player available at 17. I've heard this is actually a very talented draft class- except for QBs, which we do not need! Maybe RB is a weak group, too. In fact some of the positions that are deep in this draft seem to be ones we are likely to draft- WR, o-line, edge rushers. Because of that, a trade down for a later first and getting a second, might be ideal. But it's so hard to predict a trade- especially when you want one. As it stands now, I'd like to get Stingley or Hamilton but I seriously doubt they drop. Jameson Williams is on my short list, and he might be gone also. Sauce Gardner, Trent McDuffie, Nakobe Dean, and Devin Lloyd would be my defensive list. Not sure of Davis or any edge rushers at 17. On the offensive side, there are several WRs going in first round mocks but I could take or leave any of them. There's the top three tackles- unlikely to be there at 17- and there's Penning, Green, Johnson and maybe a few other next tier offensive linemen that, again, I'd be OK if the Chargers took but I couldn't get excited about. Am I the only one that feels like this year is unlike any we've had as Charger fans heading into the draft? Is there any first-round prospect this year you are dreaming of the Chargers taking to complete or upgrade our team?Not really... I'm actually going into this draft thinking TT can't screw it up very much. 17 isn't a bad spot, we did well in FA, and we have a bunch more late round picks, so we can hope that at least a couple can stick as quality depth.
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Post by jwr10x on Apr 10, 2022 21:31:36 GMT -7
At this point I still think CB at 17 McDuffie or Stingley Jr if one of them is still there. Interesting that Kyle Hamilton S Notre Dame seems to be slipping might possibly fall into the middle of the 1st.
WR's that might be considered Drake London USC , Jameson Williams and Chris Olave Ohio State in that order. London is the best, concerned with Williams is his ACL injury and how many games he might miss before joining the team. Olave is very fast but on the smaller size.
Penning might be the last OT of the group that might be there at 17 but there are quite a teams ahead of us who need tackles.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 11, 2022 5:21:22 GMT -7
At this point I still think CB at 17 McDuffie or Stingley Jr if one of them is still there. Interesting that Kyle Hamilton S Notre Dame seems to be slipping might possibly fall into the middle of the 1st. WR's that might be considered Drake London USC , Jameson Williams and Chris Olave Ohio State in that order. London is the best, concerned with Williams is his ACL injury and how many games he might miss before joining the team. Olave is very fast but on the smaller size. Penning might be the last OT of the group that might be there at 17 but there are quite a teams ahead of us who need tackles. Williams is awfully good. The problem is we have the WR's to do it while we wait those games out. (It’s a shame London’s season ended with a broken ankle after only eight games)
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 11, 2022 5:42:35 GMT -7
At this point I still think CB at 17 McDuffie or Stingley Jr if one of them is still there. Interesting that Kyle Hamilton S Notre Dame seems to be slipping might possibly fall into the middle of the 1st. WR's that might be considered Drake London USC , Jameson Williams and Chris Olave Ohio State in that order. London is the best, concerned with Williams is his ACL injury and how many games he might miss before joining the team. Olave is very fast but on the smaller size. Penning might be the last OT of the group that might be there at 17 but there are quite a teams ahead of us who need tackles. That is a solid list of options, and I would add Lloyd ILB to it just because of my belief the need is strong. It will be an interesting pick, just hope they get it right.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 18, 2022 6:30:48 GMT -7
Should I do my big reveal for the draft ? My prediction for the first round ? My forecast ?
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Post by lazylightning on Apr 18, 2022 7:25:14 GMT -7
At this point I still think CB at 17 McDuffie or Stingley Jr if one of them is still there. Interesting that Kyle Hamilton S Notre Dame seems to be slipping might possibly fall into the middle of the 1st. WR's that might be considered Drake London USC , Jameson Williams and Chris Olave Ohio State in that order. London is the best, concerned with Williams is his ACL injury and how many games he might miss before joining the team. Olave is very fast but on the smaller size. Penning might be the last OT of the group that might be there at 17 but there are quite a teams ahead of us who need tackles. That is a solid list of options, and I would add Lloyd ILB to it just because of my belief the need is strong. It will be an interesting pick, just hope they get it right. Nothing against Lloyd, but I do not think an ILB is a strong need. In Staley's scheme, the ILB look to be workhorses who know how to play the position. The expensive talent is on the d-line or cb/s. The boltz may draft a ILB for depth/potential but I do not see it being a high pick.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 18, 2022 8:10:40 GMT -7
That is a solid list of options, and I would add Lloyd ILB to it just because of my belief the need is strong. It will be an interesting pick, just hope they get it right. Nothing against Lloyd, but I do not think an ILB is a strong need. In Staley's scheme, the ILB look to be workhorses who know how to play the position. The expensive talent is on the d-line or cb/s. The boltz may draft a ILB for depth/potential but I do not see it being a high pick. Taking an ILB is certainly not a splashy pick, but pretty sure it is the only position on defence that is not firm on starter. While I like Lloyd, I do agree with you it is more likely they go a different position. ROT would be a nice pick....but depends on just what players are available.
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