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Post by moekid on Dec 6, 2022 7:27:18 GMT -7
I will never yield. Until we are mathematically out of it I will never say Uncle, never surrender, and never yield. Chargers 2022 PLAY ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gallipoli
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Post by sdc on Dec 6, 2022 14:42:42 GMT -7
It's the Peter Principle. That exists everywhere. You get promoted for being great at a job but the new job requires a whole new skill set. I used to tell newly promoted GM's that the quickest way to get fired is to merely do what you did to get promoted. The rarer thing is the head coach that can win consistently with a revolving door of coordinators. Belicheck is the prime example. Andy Reid has had the same two coordinators for a long time. Many a HC has experienced great success as long as they had the right dudes one level down. I mentioned Dan Quinn. There are many others. Staley has only proven one thing so far. He is not capable of winning without elite coordinators. Your boy Payton had Drew Brees and premiere DC's during his run in NO. Take a look. Gregg Williams, Steve Spagnuola, Rob Ryan, and Dennis Allen. We have had two DC's (Wade Phillips and Gus Bradley in the past 20 years), and a bunch of tomato cans. Don't even get me started on OC's. I'm not debating you want good coordinators. Let me make this more concise: You posted Belichick, Andy Reid, and Sean Payton. Do you think Staley is ANY of those guys ? Absolutely not. Then again, I wouldn’t put those three in the same group. Belichick is the goat, Andy Reid has taken two teams to the SB, won one and has won with all types of QBs. Payton had great success with an all time great QB and best in class DC’s. I put him in the Tom Coughlin range. I know you have a chubby for Payton. I think he’s a dick.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 6, 2022 15:00:43 GMT -7
I'm not debating you want good coordinators. Let me make this more concise: You posted Belichick, Andy Reid, and Sean Payton. Do you think Staley is ANY of those guys ? Absolutely not. Then again, I wouldn’t put those three in the same group. Belichick is the goat, Andy Reid has taken two teams to the SB, won one and has won with all types of QBs. Payton had great success with an all time great QB and best in class DC’s. I put him in the Tom Coughlin range. I know you have a chubby for Payton. I think he’s a dick. Prior to Staley, I wanted a HC with a winning record and real NFL experience. Nothing’s changed for me—that’s still what we need, in my view. Payton is probably the best of the coaches we know to be “available”—at the moment. But perhaps there will be others available later on. If we do make a move, I just hope they don’t do another experiment with an inexperienced coordinator type.
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Post by moekid on Dec 6, 2022 18:15:20 GMT -7
I'm not debating you want good coordinators. Let me make this more concise: You posted Belichick, Andy Reid, and Sean Payton. Do you think Staley is ANY of those guys ? Absolutely not. Then again, I wouldn’t put those three in the same group. Belichick is the goat, Andy Reid has taken two teams to the SB, won one and has won with all types of QBs. Payton had great success with an all time great QB and best in class DC’s. I put him in the Tom Coughlin range. I know you have a chubby for Payton. I think he’s a dick. Belichick is a dick as well. Give me a dick. (Calm down freak) No more Mr nice guy
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 6, 2022 19:27:37 GMT -7
I want Payton or lure Arians out of retirement.
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Post by cthommes on Dec 6, 2022 19:57:05 GMT -7
Absolutely not. Then again, I wouldn’t put those three in the same group. Belichick is the goat, Andy Reid has taken two teams to the SB, won one and has won with all types of QBs. Payton had great success with an all time great QB and best in class DC’s. I put him in the Tom Coughlin range. I know you have a chubby for Payton. I think he’s a dick. Belichick is a dick as well. Give me a dick. (Calm down freak) No more Mr nice guy Freak schmeak. Where does the line form?
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 7, 2022 6:18:41 GMT -7
I'm not debating you want good coordinators. Let me make this more concise: You posted Belichick, Andy Reid, and Sean Payton. Do you think Staley is ANY of those guys ? Absolutely not. Then again, I wouldn’t put those three in the same group. Belichick is the goat, Andy Reid has taken two teams to the SB, won one and has won with all types of QBs. Payton had great success with an all time great QB and best in class DC’s. I put him in the Tom Coughlin range. I know you have a chubby for Payton. I think he’s a dick. I would take Dick Tom and Harry if they put us in the playoffs.
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Post by moekid on Dec 7, 2022 13:54:24 GMT -7
Uh oh
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 8, 2022 6:20:30 GMT -7
Pffffftrttttt ! Staley he is defensive genius, he will .........................................oh, you're right. uh oh.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 8, 2022 7:13:56 GMT -7
First off, everybody has a bounce back game when playing the Chargers...... Secondly, the perception Tua was 'off' makes me think Tua might be one concussion away from retirement. Is he truly ok?
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 8, 2022 7:18:41 GMT -7
First off, everybody has a bounce back game when playing the Chargers...... Secondly, the perception Tua was 'off' makes me think Tua might be one concussion away from retirement. Is he truly ok? Did you know Tua has 23 wins in his career ? Did you know Herbert has 23 losses in the same time ? Its the second most losses behind Matt Ryan in that timeframe. Fun facts. Changes will happen. You've been told by me all year. The threat is real.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 8, 2022 8:54:38 GMT -7
First off, everybody has a bounce back game when playing the Chargers...... Secondly, the perception Tua was 'off' makes me think Tua might be one concussion away from retirement. Is he truly ok? Did you know Tua has 23 wins in his career ? Did you know Herbert has 23 losses in the same time ? Its the second most losses behind Matt Ryan in that timeframe. Fun facts. Changes will happen. You've been told by me all year. The threat is real. I generally consider those statistics as 'club' statistics, they are interesting just the same. You can't possibly be preferring Tua over Herbert......oh wait, I forget that is exactly your preference. Every off season sees changes, nothing new there. The question is how profound will they be..... How different would this season have been if the change was health?
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Post by moekid on Dec 8, 2022 9:27:55 GMT -7
First off, everybody has a bounce back game when playing the Chargers...... Secondly, the perception Tua was 'off' makes me think Tua might be one concussion away from retirement. Is he truly ok? Had nothing to do with concussion. Off just means he was missing some throws
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 8, 2022 10:20:43 GMT -7
Did you know Tua has 23 wins in his career ? Did you know Herbert has 23 losses in the same time ? Its the second most losses behind Matt Ryan in that timeframe. Fun facts. Changes will happen. You've been told by me all year. The threat is real. I generally consider those statistics as 'club' statistics, they are interesting just the same. You can't possibly be preferring Tua over Herbert......oh wait, I forget that is exactly your preference. Every off season sees changes, nothing new there. The question is how profound will they be..... How different would this season have been if the change was health? I prefer Herbert. How many years do we have to hear injuries. Make changes or Herbert's rookie contract he is GONE. They will change for that fact alone.
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Post by sonorajim on Dec 8, 2022 11:50:57 GMT -7
I generally consider those statistics as 'club' statistics, they are interesting just the same. You can't possibly be preferring Tua over Herbert......oh wait, I forget that is exactly your preference. Every off season sees changes, nothing new there. The question is how profound will they be..... How different would this season have been if the change was health? I prefer Herbert. How many years do we have to hear injuries. Make changes or Herbert's rookie contract he is GONE. They will change for that fact alone. Injuries were barely a whisper last year.
Then we got a bunch of good to great players.
Then we got enough injuries for 32 teams, including Herbert.
Fire everyone. Who wants to be..... NEXT? to be hexed... someone doesn't like us...
nfl?
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